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@kenway Informative, thanks for sharing. Similar to when a racist gets out of racism.

@Bazooka Jesus Shoot! @Juan and @Nivsch have snitched on you, sorry about that.

@Lila9 BTW, body language analysis has a 70-80% likelihood of predicting behavior and subconscious tendencies in people, from how defensive they are to how they lie to themselves and others. I can tell you from observing and analyzing that footage that she's not telling the whole, truth, is misrepresenting facts and has a dubious delight in doing so. Fighting me on this is useless and frankly embarrassing.

@Lila9 Correction: This woman speaks facts weaponized by her agenda, bias and preferences, and has a guilty pleasure and dubious delight in selling you lies disguised as facts:

@Thought Art I agree, very interesting, am analyzing tonality, body language and word choice, it's decent in his performance and charisma. Putting aside him being immoral, or having a bias and preference and ideological belief system and a right wing bias, just looking at how he communicates can also be emulated as well, to some degree, in order to improve how you'd also communicate, to better persuade and convince others. Despite Trump hate and his stupidity, he's got decent body language and tone. Never underestimate an opportunist and manipulator like him.

@Nivsch Keep twisting what I say. Never said explicitly her statements were factually false, I said her body language and tonality, and how she weaponizes facts and factual events, has a dubious delight, high pitch and tense smile at the end betrays her knowing she's just performing, just for the clout chasing. She has little genuine desire to help Israeli and Palestinians. Keep defending her, knowing she's using your country's crisis, and dehumanizing Palestinians for views and clout, because that's what she thinks about you and your people, and the Palestinian people, clout gain and clicks and views for free, for her viewing, and for her pleasure, over yours.

@zazen That's a very nice tweet, one of the rare ones from twitter.

@bebotalk So because someone is racist, that justifies then their suppression of hate and other feelings towards some people and the world? Justifies deep denial of their humanity, understanding and empathy? Again, not justifying their expressions and behaviors, that highly dependent on situation, but to me it's unjustifiable to tell someone how to think and feel about someone or something or the world. It's wrong of me to tell you to stop crying, feel sad, feel guilty over the death of your family in an avalanche, or to tell you to stop feeling hate, anger, revenge, disgust, frustration, or any negative feelings/thinking of the perpetrator that murdered and raped your daughters or sisters, or your mother. It's even worse when we dogmatically force people to not express, mostly in speech and sometimes in behavior, their other parts of their psyche, and to fake a saintly, good Samaritan image, and make them fake those signals and lie to themselves, make them then build trauma that they will later have to deal with, with their inauthentic selves sealed deep in their shadows.

@Nivsch Character assassinating Palestinians, straw manning them, and siding with deep bias and preference, and she knows she's wrong yet does so. So I'd be careful assigning honesty or authenticity to a woman that heavily performs on camera in a very biased way. If you can't see through her deception then nothing I say will get through to you, neither do I care to explain something so fucking basic as lying and deceit to you.

@Nivsch After doing some tonality and body language analysis, she's performing, and lying on camera. often as she speaks and illustrates she looks left a lot, Likely some tele prompter or some bill she's reading points from. Also, at 0:37 to 0:40, when she say's "Palestinians can actually freely-" she shoulder shrugs, right one shrugs more, followed by a no shake with head tilt and a micro eye flash(Typically for surprise, emphasis or social approval). Shrugging is epistemic, in that the person doesn't know, or doesn't believe in what they just said or did, or doesn't know and has nothing to add, in this case she doesn't know whether Palestinians are that free to arrive and leave Israel. Also another quick, softer shrug on Palestinians coming and going with pipe bombs or other weapons and emphasizing those negatively charged words. At 1;10 to 1;15 when she speaks of going to Bethlehem she complains she can't because of some terrorists, and loudly tuts(verbal, tonal negative sign similar to contempt and disgust, just strong disapproval). At 1;25 minute a big lip compression followed by an 'um'(verbal sign of feeling uncertainty, uncomfortableness or anxiety) with the lip compression seems like a withheld opinion, or that her subconscious mind is readying itself to say the very charged message from that board about the hospital that treats both Israeli and even Palestinians from Syria which starts from 1;33 to 1;40, listing those Syrian women ages 8 to 80(perfect number range, nothing suspicious with that), raped by ISIS terrorists(What does ISIS have to do with HAMAs or even Hezbollah?), followed by a long inhale, longer star at the tele prompter, and another lip compression followed by tongue licking lips(lip compression typically sign of defensiveness and increase in distress, and licking lips is very similar). Last 30 seconds was just performance, and a number of small smiles, tensed lipped smiles emphasizing, and implying that Israel HAS TO PERSUE 1 party state over Gaza and West Bank, or PLO ruins them. Last 8 seconds of her closing is massive dubious delight and her tone pitch increased a bit with a few quick nods and a small tensed smile and head tilt forwards. Dubious delight and pitch increase indicates to me she never really cared for this Israel/Palestine conflict, and she feels that she has gotten away with saying some very disturbing things on air, as if she's a little child that lied and KNEW she's getting away, and knew what she is doing is negative and immoral yet does so anyways, which is likely why she smiled like that at the end. So overall, a very biased and distorted reporting, for shock value and for clout chasing, she knew her messaging is bad, but performs as a reporter, and through her non-verbal and verbal leaks I can say she's performing and a bit of lying on camera, with some moments of distress and delight in what she's doing.

@PurpleTree Old school beats are the best, drill and UK grime is a close second, and mumble rap sucks.

@Epikur I am gonna guess they'll feel wither some excitement, but mostly confused and a bit offended their getting this misrepresented cuz they're mostly in the political and the more established, they'd probably not feel good taken out of context so extremely into the pop culture like this.

@Bazooka Jesus You are begging for this to be moved with that fake AF threat though.

I advice you watch this video in full, but between 14:00 to 15:00 Destiny confesses he's pro genocide: So, you got to ask yourself why is this guy so popular in the online spaces given his immoral take here, and why the world isn't taking the negative side effects of online drama, and online internet cultures seriously? Why are even big tech companies letting big content creators steal from smaller content creators, letting reactor community saturate the market with their lazy content creation? And why isn't Destiny getting canceled and censored from this? If this is a shining example of a future role modal then it's sick and twisted.

@bebotalk Speaking about Destiny, there's also Dark Viper who is a decent speed runner gamer, who made some good videos on the reaction community being toxic, and some others. He even had a pseudo debate with destiny 4-3 years ago on ethics. Found a few videos that are interesting and reveals more of Destiny's character: and especially: Because this contradicts the man, the myth, the legendary Destiny, said to DEBATE ANYONE ON ANY TOPIC! That's his marketing and manifesto, to debate anyone with any topic, and talk to everyone willingly...YET DOESN'T DEBATE DARK VIPER ON REACT CONTENT AND COMMUNITY! What are you hiding???GTFO of your room and debate BOI!!

What do you guys think or feel about this conversation? To me, it's a solid exchange, but it's simplistic taking into account developmental factors like Spiral Dynamics stages of development(By Clare Graves and Don Beck), cognitive and moral development, personality typing/traits(By Myers Briggs personality modal and Big Five personality traits modal), 9 stages of ego development(by Jane Loevinger), Architypes and shadow work(By Carl Jung), Integral Theory and other lines of development in life and social domains(By Ken Wilbur), ideological beliefs groomed, gaslighted and indoctrinated by culture, family structure, and information ecology like alternative/mainstream news, newspapers, radio, video, TV programs, advertising, social media, community, schooling and peer pressure from peers and teachers to conform to ideology, and many more information intake points that manufactures consent(By Noam Chomsky) which influences your worldview, self biases and preferences. What are your thoughts?

@zazen Such a great post.

@danniel Obviously the case.

@kenway Very nice share, such a reasonable take on this whole situation, wish more people are like him.

@Buck Edwards My reply is much deeper than the video, and answering from the basis of if it's justifiable to FEEL and THINK hatred of someone or some groups, not if it's justifiable to act and behave from hatred, which I covered in that second half of the reply. Short answer is yes, give yourself permission to feel so in the context of emotions and feelings, and your inner dialogue. In another context of thinking/feeling, and taking action, that is highly dependent on the situation. For example in the video the guy's expressing his hatred through speaking, which gives us a peak into how he might think and might feel via statement analysis, tonality and body language, and also allows us to approximate his value system, cognitive and moral patterns, personality and psychology, his ego development, his general state of being/becoming and shadow aspects of his psyche, other lines of development, ideology, self biases and preferences, all indoctrinated from culture, family upbringing, interactions with peers and others in his community, information intake from news, TV, radios, videos, social media, other points in this internet ecology we're in. Him expressing that bit of hate in himself also allows us to compare and contrast if we wholly or partly relate with him, and what shadows we have hiding in our subconscious minds, and tests our understanding and empathy for such people with hate. So, short answer, speaking for me, is probably no, not okay to express hate via behavior and speaking, but I am not ignorant to want complete thought policing, otherwise how would I know if I'm wrong, or biased, or have shadows in me if I don't get to witness another ego that contains that which I deeply suppress in me?

@BlueOak Great post, glad I baited a longer reply out of you. Will check out the wiki and research this.

@Twentyfirst NAH! Taoism is warm and cool, but Imma project Kanshou and Bakuya, way cooler. Peace through archery!

@Twentyfirst Of course! Islam is the problem in the Middle East, not the demon worshipping pagans that existed before Islam! Clearly Zionism are angels that proclaim only god's chosen people can live in Judea, and Jerusalem, and nobody else! Easily other religions like Christianity and Islam, even Hinduism and Buddhism have indoctrination tactics in their scriptures, but not the Torah in Judaism! Every religion out there deluded and trying to convert people by texting, but not Zionists proclaiming they are god's chosen people! And NetanYahu is the new yahoo!

@Buck Edwards Similarly to @PurpleTree and his: But I'll have a different take on this issue. Is it justifiable to hate migrants, or anyone, or even anything? Yes. Yes, because hatred, or hate, is a conglomerate of many similar and different negative feelings/emotions that could range from some apathy(depression, laziness, boredom defeat), to grief(lose, sadness, guilt, betrayal, hurt), to fear(terror, insecurity, worry, nervousness, and many types of phobias), to Lust(greed, possessiveness, obsession, cravings, pleasure, frustration), to anger(annoyance, disgust, rage, contempt, masking of hurt, revenge), to pride(feeling icy, cold, stoic, judgmental, intellectual/moral superiority, hubris, aloof), less towards the upper more higher conscious emotions like courage(confidence, creativity, happiness, security), to love( feeling of glowing, love, joy, passion), and peace(holistic, grounded, emotionally fluid, calm, serenity, integrated). Hatred is much similar to disgust, repulse, contempt, and revenge. Because you ask if it's ok to feel hatred toward someone or something, then yes allow yourself to feel that hate. It's mostly not healthy to resist and suppress certain emotions in you, which builds up emotional catharsis that has to resolve later on, sooner or later. However, if you worded the question like: Is it justifiable to hate migrants AND act hateful, express hatred, towards them behaviorally? I'd say it's highly dependent on context and situation you are in relative to that migrant who is now the source of your hate. For example, you walk and you witness a sexual assault of a woman by a migrant, I'd say you are justified to both feel some hatred and even righteous anger and take some action. If you are in a situation when you got jumped by a migrant, got your stuff stolen and a family member got hurt, you are justified to feel hateful to that particular migrant, and justified in feeling vengeful. I'd normally say no, and generally better not to act out of hate, but then I'd sunk cost fallacy myself as there might be some exceptions when a situation is so bad and evil, involving a migrant attacking you or someone you love in someway that then questions me telling you what to think or feel, as who am I to tell you if it's right or wrong, if it's fine or not to FEEL and THINK in HATE that it's like me thought and emotion policing you. So, highly depends on context, and don't beat yourself up for feeling hateful.

@Majed Sure, I would agree that Hezbollah is a group that has values matching stage red values, if you go by Leo's and the modal's listing characteristics of stage red as the short following: Dominance seeking, glory and boasting, showcasing, to control and winner takes all, egotism, egotistical, power trips and power dynamics, corruption, mafia, Cartel, criminal organizations, the black market, human slave trade, human trafficking and sex trafficking rings, pedophile rings, some genres of pornography, variations of doggy style, scams, swindles, con artistry, frauds, criminal and evil acts, violence, war crimes, tribal warfare. If you agree with the following then Hezbollah would fit. However, that's a general categorization of Hezbollah as purely stage red, and assumes Hezbollah is just stage red. What if they're not purely stage red, and how do you account for say some elements of stage purple values in their tribalism, or elements of stage blue in how they mesh together with them building social infrastructure like hospitals, schools, farm? What about elements of stage orange individualism in their leaders and them being more separate from the Lebanon government? And backing from parts of Syria and Iran, in military supply and training, which makes Iran and parts of Syria complicit in Hezbollah's power dynamics? Even in the video the guy fronts objectivity, and struggles to define terrorism when when we have Spiral Dynamic's view of terrorism from Don Beck himself in a graph! Obviously martyrdom is a very easy concept to misunderstand and to weaponize depending on your bias and ideology, as in Zen Buddhism the concept of no self, God realization found in esoteric branch of Christianity, and many other hardcore spiritual branches they have their interpretation of martyrdom, so funny how the guy doesn't properly define martyrdom and loosely defines it to fit his life experiences in the military as dying for a cause, well that's exactly what Hezbollah, other middle eastern terrorist groups, and many different types of terrorist groups if you look at Don Beck's graph of terrorism through Spiral Dynamics. From terrorism in stage purple tribes, to stage blue religious terror or even nationalism(the guy who killed Mahatma Gandhi was a Hindu nationalist not a Muslim), to stage orange terrorists like Anonymous as a non-state org world wide, and stage green environmental terrorists and ANTIFA. Even the Uni bomber had some stage green and yellow values in him, with motivations for his acts of terrorism matching some stage yellow to green and some orange values. So obviously to me, the guy in video is right in being a bit hesitant to really define and clearly explain martyrdom and terrorism, and freedom fighters as that duality not only is confusing and dynamic but is very emotionally charged for most western audiences.