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@Vrubel Unlikely.

@Buck Edwards Exactly,that's called charisma and charm. Know and study body language analysis and tonality and word choices. Know how to be an effective communicator and persuasive.

@Nivsch HAMAs is a virus now, not people? Okay, say HAMAs gets eliminated, does this stop Israel taking lands from Palestinians?

@Parallax Mind Let's say we are forced to choose sides, and let's say that HAMAs did release hostages, did honor ceasefire, and Israel still wipes them out. Will Israel stop expanding into Palestinian territory in West bank and Gaza? BYW, is it genocide if Israel knew everh detail of a building before a missle strike, compared tk HAMAs missiles sometimes missing and they don't know exactly where to hit?

@Scholar So which is OP implying, that heterosexuality is wrong because it's unatural, or because it's not conducive to evolution? Why would homosexuality be not conducive to evolution and sexual reproduction?

@Nivsch Please see 3 or 4 pages backwards to your post, quote it and show @zazen. Burden of proof is on you in that specific exchange.

@Lila9 Say HAMAs did that, released hostages, honored the ceasefire, will Israel stop? Will Israel stop expanding into Palestinian territory? Into West Bank and Gazs? Will Israel get rid of the alt right Zionists leading Israel?

@StarStruck I agree, just that that statement was politically charged by the alt right, proud boys, and those who make PUA toxic. It's the fake Andrew Tates that make that statement cringe. Men must fight for their survival is a truism, just like women must fight for their survival and children must fight for their survival. For you all triggered by big brain @StarStruck, this is true in that men, women and children get sick, and get injured, so their bodies must fight to survive! Sometimes they even get attacked by other people, and must fight to survive!

@Bobby_2021 I agree, men need more martial arts trainig, go to gym and lift heavy, have some fighting mentality.

@zazen Yeah that post is good, I've seen it. That person was a Zionist and is now a pro Palestinian. I can tell there's some anger when he speaks, tensoon on his face and eyebrows. It must be emotionally difficult realization to have been supporting one side doing the slow genocide of the other.

@Merkabah Star Calm down starboy, don't pick on @Nivsch and @Lila9 at the same time. Why? Cuz they'll hug and cry, 69 together with nine Sixers real dry. Niche up and down 96 inches, then pincer each head scissored, bedridden in Dan's den riddled with Debbie's remains in it. @Merkabah Star, the polite nice kingdom, compared to me, you make me the morning star, the morning glory, to your lack of morning wood. Stark contrast in this dark valley, your kingdom sunken, mine sunders up to sunshine, Lucifer to this Satan.

@Nivsch Really? That seemed more like fake John Aziz cutting Badempanada far more, and his tone is emotional bitchy and defensive. BadEmpanada is the level headed one.

@Princess Arabia I partly agree, and think it's more natural and less deviancy that animals don't discriminate on similar levels to humans, just as how Tasmanian Devils and desert chameleons don't discriminate if their mating ritual is gentle or rough, or from a human perspective, rape.

@Scholar The point I'm missing is OP asking why heterosexuality is natural, and homosexuality a deviancy? Is it bigotry to inquire about why one thing is natural and another thing a deviancy? But homo sapiens are also an animal too, similar to birds being animals. Why would incest be irrelevant due to naturalistic fallacy instead of species difference? Why draw that line at naturalistic fallacy instead of species? This is very similar to Big Foot reports, of psychological distancing, claiming they saw a bear or some other monkey, but not a primate superior to humans in more wilder terrain?

@Scholar We're getting baited? Let's assume OP also brought up incest, so is incest natural and a deviation? Given the Rapid Evolution theory, when scientists observed birds with low population in an Island, inbreeding was the norm in that Island, until a few generations later mutations occurred that triggered diversity in that bird species that increased with each generation past, yet in the 2nd and 1st generation sexual reproduction was in that family of birds, so is incest natural design or a deviancy in nature? If incest is true and natural in parts of nature, in different species, then why do homo sapiens have this moral intuitionism of moral qualms with sexual behaviors between siblings or even parents to older siblings? Not just physical, but even in sexual fantasy and sex thoughts that involved family members?

@Devin What do you mean both are obviously natural, and nature just means expected? Did OP exactly mean more natural, the 'god's plan', by design? Or are you assuming what OP meant?

@numbersinarow What's the problem with BadEmpanada thinking he could bring up the Srebrenica example of retaliation against muslims being called genocide? Is it a problem for him to draw a comparison between what Israel is doing to Apartheid in South Africa? What source is comprised of liars and snakes? The UN?

@Nivsch Why wouldn't it be brainwashing and indoctrination from Zionists? Or thought for himself? Made his own decisions? Look at his tonality, word choices, and body language, and tell me if that's a level headed, independently thinking person with their own opinions they formulated from research and critical thinking, and not just a codependent thinker, depending on talking points by Zionists: Something's wrong when you had a person from Palestinian family disappear, then appears in BadEmpanada's video claiming pro Israel.

@Devin If you want separate the social aspect, fine, but then if you do so then you cannot answer why homosexuals want sex with same sex partners primarily because to masturbate the masturbator needs a sexual object to sexually gratify themselves, AKA PMO(pornography, masturbation and orgasm). The masturbator can have sexual fantasies involving basically their sexual attraction, without having real sex. The attraction of masturbation is to stimulate oneself towards orgasm. Heterosexuals can masturbate to a sexual fantasy involving the opposite sex. HOW ARE THE THREE THE SAME?! You have now expanded the category here, so it's not just category error, but conflation of the three together! And of course it changes at the social level, because some who chose to masturbate in social settings, act like peeping toms, or at orgy parties, obviously the masturbation will change with the social setting! But how is that an argument for whether homosexuality or heterosexuality is natural???

@Devin Because in male sex biology the penis head has many nerve endings that when physically stimulated results in an erection, which then from further stimulation sends signals to the brain that this is pleasure, which then reinforces further stimulation of erect penis, until eventually leading to ejaculation of seminal fluids and sperm and orgasm and climax, followed by other bio chemical triggers afterwards for relaxation. Because of the nerve endings and stimulation, and the brain remembering that orgasm and rewarding it, is why masturbation occurs in males and in females. Also P-M-O, an acronym for pornography, masturbation and orgasm, which mostly means that masturbators masturbate to porn material, porn vids, porn mags, erotica, or other erotic images/words, even the sexual fantasy in their minds of what they're sexually attracted to, from homosexual to heterosexual fantasies. I see a difference between the two primary attractions of many men 'attracted' to sex with women primarily and secondly to relationships although this generalization need clarifying from you, and I see this could be no different to his attraction to manual stroking of his penis, but I think you deeply misunderstand these two primary differences yourself. Again you are conflating and making a category error, now between sexual attraction to opposite sex and sexual intercourse between a male and female, and confusing that with masturbation. Again, as I stated, masturbators can pleasure themselves, and be pleasured by their sex partners.

@Nivsch Why is it a great video? The most interesting thing is a pro Israeli is a Palestinian, and not how he was brainwashed by Zionism to be pro Israeli??? Now, if you did listened to it ALL, then list ALL the timestamps when he made such reasonable claims, and if you can't list ALL OF THEM, and miss just one, then why claim he's being so reasonable? The interviewer BadEmpanada, or the interviewee John Aziz who's the one being impulsive? Also BadEmpanada has this to say about John Aziz: 'I've been contacted by members of John Aziz's family. He claims to be a Palestinian who represents Palestinians. But he's barely seen them since he was 5 years old. They tried many times to reach out & include him, he was never interested. They are shocked to see that he advocates for Zionism now. While they think everyone has the right to their opinion, they are angry that he claims to be Palestinian while doing so. The truth: John has visited the West Bank one time, and visited his father's family in the USA a couple of times. That's it. Far, far from what he claimed in his article for The Atlantic, where he painted himself as fluently bicultural, and lied about visiting the West Bank multiple times and spending every Christmas with his Palestinian family in California. John does not speak Arabic. He does not know anything about Palestinian culture nor is he involved or immersed in it. He does not know any other Palestinians nor interact with any. Here is what one family member had to say about him being "Palestinian": "John does not speak Arabic at all as far as I know. He had very limited contact with his dad. He only visited Palestine for days when he was 4. His formative upbringing did not include any palestinian elements. No language, no songs, do stories, no food, no communication with family, no living experience in Palestine. He is totally disconnected from the Palestinian experience, culture, life, communication, history, struggle etc. He has zero Pslestinian immersive experience. He never took any active measure to have such an experience despite the continuous urging and welcoming of his Palestine family. Never actively communicated with his Palestinian side of family. Never called, never participated in major happy or sad social events, was never there. Even though his cousins were always trying to contact him and engage him via social media like Facebook, he was never keen in having a deep humane relationship with them. That all is understood and is his full right. Many people of Palestinian origin or ancestry lose contacts with motherland, as it happens with all nations and ethnicities. That's perfectly normal. But for John to claim suddenly discover his non-existent Polynesian half, and suddenly transforms onto a Palestinian speaking as a Palestinian voice on the Palestinian trauma and struggle from the platform of being a Palestinian is a deceptive thing, to say the least." John Aziz (his real name is not Aziz, I don't know why he calls himself that) saw an opportunity on October 7th to gain fame and fortune by claiming to be a Palestinian while advocating for Israel. Obviously Zionists lapped this up, they are always looking for traitors. But his claims to be Palestinian are spurious and based off nothing but ancestry. That he even mentions that as if he had anything resembling a Palestinian life or experience is laughable. And it's only due to that lack of experience that he can be so callous & selfish. In doing this, John Aziz is even slandering his father. In the Atlanic article, he paints his father negatively, as someone who wanted one state with the expulsion of all Israelis. This is weird, since John Aziz barely knew his father. He basically invented a false history. John's father is dead. He cannot defend himself. But one of his family member's who knew him well had this to say about him: "The other minor point that deeply troubles and hurts me is his mentioning that his dad has advicated for the destruction of Israel. This is very untrue. Indeed it is very sad and pathetic too. I have known Adil for so many years and had thousands of hours of discussions with him on all issues of life. On the Palestinian issue he was very passionste and committed to the rights of his people, but he was pragmatic and humane. He never advicated to the destruction of Israel or the Jewish people in Israel/Palestine. His stance was that the Palestinians have right to freedom in their homeland. In particular, Adil was anti Muslim Brotherhood and anti Hamas all the time. He criticized their ideology and tactics, specially targetting civilians. For John to say that about his dad, when his dad is away and can not defend himself, is both very hurtful and injust. It is either he really did not know what his dad's lifelong position was, or he is simply saying things to cast himself as the Palestinian son who rebelled against his dad's genocidal doctrine." All in all, John Aziz is a massive fraud, and his relatives are taking notice. The Atlantic should unpublish his article and issue a formal apology for not fact checking his story. John Aziz's twitter account is @aziz0nomics. It has gained tens of thousands of followers in just the two months since Oct 7, purely off this "I am Palestinian and I support Israel" grift. Disgusting that he lies about himself for self benefit like this. In summary: When John's family in Jenin were asked about him, their response was "Who is John?"'

@Devin Sure, I partly agree that homo in homosexuality as compared to heterosexuality, means same, homogenous. The same person performing a sex act upon themselves, masturbation, is more homogenous homosexual needs elaboration. Firstly hetero, in heterosexuality as opposed to homosexuality, means attraction to the opposite sex, means diverse in content, heterogenous. This includes the same person performing a sex act upon themselves, but also includes a different person performing a sex act upon themselves, like a couple masturbating each other, to a person masturbating to the opposite sex, not just the same sex. If you consider a man giving a hand job to his penis, and a woman giving a hand job to her clitoris, is categorically homosexual, then that category is small in range. You didn't include the object of sexual attraction that triggers one's arousal to initiate masturbation, which isn't limited to same sex but rather can include the opposite sex, hence a heterosexual male/female can masturbate to their opposite sex they're sexually attracted to. You attempting to make masturbation equivalent to homosexuality is a category error and a false equivalency, without knowing that heterosexuality and masturbation are also compatible, as heterogenous means diverse in content, means that you can masturbate to any diverse in content sexual objects, including but not limited to same sex, but also including heterosexuality and attractions to the opposite sex.

@Dodo It's an old thread, and you didn't want to revive the thread even when you had an interest in talking about it, why wait for this long? Leo says bitcoin is worth it even if it's a gamble, and puts other coins away. Why is another man's money and how he invests it your main disagreement when it's their money, not yours? First movers? Crypto? Blockchains? Ethereum? Bitcoin is bitcoin, but rest of market is intriguing is enough justification to invest, even when there's little security between the payer and the receiver of those bitcoins? What do you disagree with @Leo Gura's second point of not mixing art with investing? Is it because of cryptocurrencies around NFT(non-fungible tokens)? If it's about NFTs and crypto, well that field is highly susceptible to scams, swindles, grifts, cons and frauds, meanwhile NFTs have very little value outside of cryptocurrency. Why do you conclude that cryptocurrency is not riddled with scams, behaves technical, to solve a myriad of problems, more options than bitcoin?

@CARDOZZO I don't think it's a wild conversation between stage yellow thinkers, seems very intellectual and calm. Misleading framing.

@Devin How is masturbation categorically more homosexual than homosexuality? How is more people masturbated than hetero sex makes homosexuality normal? Okay, there are a lot of Asexual organisms like plants and bacteria that can self replicate, not history but throughout evolution, but why include Adam from the bible, which out of nowhere and is irrelevant to this thread? How does all of that make heterosexuality a deviance? Firstly, masturbation is the act of pleasuring oneself via hands stroking the pleasure spots of your sex organ, for males it's penis head and shaft, and for female bodies it's the clitoris, the lips and breasts. Obviously both male and female bodies will have different to similar erogenous zones for pleasuring oneself. I don't think masturbation is categorically homosexuality, I think it's a category error you just did, conflating same sexual acts with self sexual pleasure acts. Opposite sex partners can also masturbate each other as well, not just same sex.