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That could certainly make sense. So I gather having feeling this strong at such point in an interaction is out of the norm for you? Maybe you can describe in a bit more detail how you feel about him and what makes the relationship working out feel important. It's one thing for me to comment on what you said to him and how he might take it, but I think it'd be more useful to understand better where you're coming from.

Has it been common for you to feel significantly attached early on, like in this current situation? Do you feel you are quick to hope for a new guy you are interacting with to be "the one"?

Based on what you said, I would say you seem to be yearning for attachment security, or in other words, finding a relationship you can depend on for feeling good and taken care of. The guy you're talking to could have a similar thing going on to some extent, I can't really tell. What this yearning means, is that you might feel willing to sacrifice yourself and go to extreme measures to make sure this relationship will work, hence you saying to him you'd give up anything for him. Ask yourself this: how would you feel emotionally if this relationship didn't work out? Can you entertain the possibility of that?

@Annoynymous Ultimately we want enlightenment to escape suffering. So we project onto it the absence of whatever we think is causing our suffering.

@Sizeable Oof The reason Leo says what he says is because he isn't looking at it from a self-biased perspective. He looks at things from the viewpoint that transcends the lense of his particular morality. If we analyze it from that perspective, it turns out that what people consider moral is just a matter of their self-interest. That is not to say we shouldn't want to change the world in accordance with our own wisdom and morality. But the point is - everybody does. There's no inherent evil to anything - it's just a clashing of agendas.

@Tanz Why male? I think women tend to be less in their head and more in touch with life, in a narrowly defined way. More emotionally and socially aware. They aren't building elaborate hyper-logical fantasies in their mind. Why white? I'm not quite as confident in answering that one. I'm sure white people being on average more well-off feeds into it. I get the impression these people generally don't come from lower class economically struggling families, which makes sense, because then they'd realize who such utopia would hurt - them and their family.

@Ponder I am talking about abiding non-dual states. I've been in one for over a year. You still crave in those states, and suffer for it.

@Ponder Real enlightenment, if it exists, yes. By real enlightenment I mean the cessation of all craving. Hitting various non-dual states, nope. You might not suffer much if your life is cozy (e.g. Mooji), but the capacity to suffer is still very much there.

@ExodiaGearCEO Not sure if it's applicable to your case, but the ability to maintain interest in books may have to do with attention span. If you do a lot of multitasking or impulsively use the internet and social media, it will make tasks requiring persistent attention more difficult. There's a constant craving for the dopamine rush of something entirely new and different. Whereas when you practice healthier and more mindful habits with regard to electronics, you may find your concentration ability goes up. Just something to think about, as I've definitely found it true in my own case.

That's not true communism though. What the Soviet Union did was create an authoritative regime where property and the means of production is nationalized, as part of the theory that such system would be a necessary step before communism, and communism would eventually be brought about by the withering away of the state. The idea of true communism has no money or state.

There are actual Sargon fans on a forum about raising consciousness? I'd look for a better source of information than someone who supports Trump to "trigger the liberals", who made fun of the death of a protester in the Charlottesville rally, who tells a woman he "wouldn't even rape her", who is called a great entry point into the alt-right by Richard Spencer himself. I'm not making a political argument, I'm making a suggestion not to follow someone who fails to be a decent human being.

That's true. It's a process of breaking down and rebuilding ego over and over.

Title of the thread made me think of this

@FredFred I think it will, just like Vipassana. I remember Shinzen Young saying it could be good for an A.D.D. person to start off with. You say you've already made great progress with other techniques though, I don't think it's a must. If you wanna try it, do so.

@Emne It does make a difference, I would assume. You should try it for yourself. One longer session might be more challenging/allow you to go deeper. Two sessions might allow you to stay more mindful throughout the day. So try it out and see what you like.

@Nadosa I can't know for sure what your situation is. Are you stably in a non-dual state (feeling like you're nothing) or are you going in and out of it? Either way suffering is totally possible and normal and it sucks. Mental turmoil is just part of the path. Sounds to me like you're experiencing apathy and frustration. I recommend putting in some effort to create structure in your life. Continuing a spiritual practice and doing the usual life things. If you're having serious trouble functioning and it doesn't resolve nor seem to be a path-related thing, maybe it's something clinical you can get help for.

@Dumb Enlightened Purges with strong negative emotions are normal on the path. Can happen pre- or post-awakening. Don't try to escape them.

@How to be wise Cool!

@How to be wise Gratz on your awakening experience. How does it feel now?

@Ampresus The more blood supply your gut takes the less is left for the brain. It's not a super big deal but if you wanna really optimize your meditation, then yeah, it makes sense to meditate when your body isn't busy digesting, like it is just after having eaten, esp if you eat heavy meals).

@Neorez It is good that Jed's books trigger you. There's a lot to learn from getting triggered, as to what you're resisting and being unwilling to look at. I I'm not at all saying Jed is enlightened or right, but looking at why you don't want him to be right is a good place for growth.

@phllip103 Not easy to answer. The more deep-rooted a certain issue the longer it might take for it to go away. It's not about a point where all of a sudden no thought or feeling bothers you, it is gradual.

A way out of suffering. It's just that our ideas about how to get that can be very misguided. From finding security in the world to reaching some kind of amazing mystical state.

@SQAAD Because awakening and experiencing emptiness/no-self etc does not mean you are free of ego, fear, craving. Hence so-called awakened people can have addictions (like Alan Watts, who was an alcoholic) or major character flaws (like certain gurus who sexually harassed their students). Getting rid of aspects of the actual ego structure operating in a person is much harder than having an awakening.

@kieranperez Everytime I tried to contemplate on LSD I forgot what I was thinking about 3 seconds later. The attempt to make sense or engage in deliberate thinking felt incredibly unnatural and impossible, like trying to stop a flowing river by catching all the water. So my recommendation - just surrender. Once you're sober again you can consider what the trip meant to you.