OctagonOctopus

Don't worry so much about stages, just be with what is true for you right now. Give yourself love, understand who you are as a person, what drives you, what repells you, deeply get to know these things. This will assist you in both domains, trying to grasp the Truth & improving you as a person. Being Being doesn't mean you don't go out and get shit done. What do you do to "Raise your conciousness above those puny problems"?

Many ways you could look at it, raising your vibration, how alined with the truth are you, how unconditional your love is, what you are able to desern moment to moment, how pure your energy is, etc. Depth of conciousness is always fluxtuating, there is a baseline that you have that homeostasis oscillates from. Until the ego is completely dissolved, then there never was any stairs to climb. You are already 100% You, but attachment to ego blocks the light out.

What is is what is, not a map. It is basically looking at the map and thinking that is what is true rather then looking at it as a map, model, or concept, rather then looking at what is so right now. Wait until you realize that the map is the territory, that is one of the biggest mindfucks ever, all you are doing right now is relating to concepts that you are creating. Egos don't know how to do anything else.

@Snt_lk It is not really that other's don't exist, it is that we are the ineffable boundless infinite that is indistinct. The way you relate to anything is threw concepts, you make a distinction about a percived patturn in what is going on, and then you say it is this or that, but it is just the infinite fractal doing its thing, endlessly abstracting. If you didn't have any concepts there would be nothing to relate to, only being the beingness of Being, being You, God loving itself, doing God's thing, Being. The only reason that there would be anything to get is a relative reason, you are creating all reasons, the truth is you don't need to do anything. Although I would say it would be a good idea to desire what is true and aline yourself with that. What is true is always true, it is waiting for you to awaken to it, You are the Truth. The desire for survival pulls pretty hard, but we can trancend it, and just be in infinite bliss always.

@ivankiss May your practice be filled with it! Much love

@Origins I love ya!

There can be something without an interpreting what you think it is, just noticing. Noticing is basically the essence of meditation. Do nothing, you notice when you are doing something and you stop and do nothing. Mindfulness, you notice a distinction you are making and you lable it (Usually seeing, hearing, or feeling) (In deeper states things become so indistinct from eachother that you want to stop lableing and just notice) Being notices. I like using music sometimes, it is useful to drown out any distracting things, but it can also become a distraction. Really depends on how you work, what kind of music is distracting to you. If using music you really just want something that fades into the background, which is bascially the intention behind ambient music. Thing for me is that I create music myself so whenever anything it playing I usually find myself deconstucting it. Although sometimes I can use the gestalt, the music as it is without me deconstructing it, as the object of my meditation, I have gotten into some deep states doing this before.

@JohnnyRocket He doesn't, Leo doesn't exist, it is all You. Leo is a concept, that you made up based on your interpritations of whatever you have expirenced of the this distinction "Leo". Leo is you, giving yourself concepts about what is going on. Wisdom can only be grown by you. Nobody is gonna give it to you. Maybe I am an alien and so Leo already is an alien to me How would you know?

Wisdom is the way, the ability to discern what is so. What expirences you have had, & how you relate to them will determin what you are wise about. So I am assuming you have much wisdom in the sphere of suriving in nature & in combat situations. It all depends on what you focus on, what you want to understand, and when you were out there drinking raindeer blood I am sure you wanted to understand how to survive in nature. The wise one knows they are a fool, and knows what areas they are a fool in. So this is why one would learn from others, others more expirenced then they are in the areas they are a fool in. Thing about knowledge is, it is always just concepts. You can't really give anyone anything other then concepts, concepts to try and help point them to what is true.

Getting into some real energy work there. Intuitive yoga is a term I also have used before to describe what you are talking about. The locked up tense form of energy once it is given loving awareness springs to life, the body starts moving to get the locked energy back into the flow of things. Back into Being.

How to desern what is really going on. Thats all you need to be conerned about here. What is the theory trying to point to? Can I observe what is being pointed to right now? Question & observe. New question, new angle to observe. You could call it what ever you want, if you see a distinction between the two then that is what you see. What is important is that the thinking is grounded in realizing what is true, not concepts about it.

You could just decide to be happy right now, no reason not to other then the reasons you make up, the stories you tell youself about why I lack this or that and need it to be happy. Unhappiness stems from the idea that you or what is going on is not good enough, so you attempt to change yourself, this is negative motivation. You are perfectly you, now and always. Aline yourself with what is true, and you will see it was always there.

@BlackMaze Yep it is you. Who says what is the right view? What is is what is, not a perspective about it. All views about what is going on is just that, a view, a perspective. The only reason to have a perspective is reasons, reasons are made up by some self trying to do something, all reasons are relative to some percived intention that relates to some story about why this thing need to be done. No reason for Reality, it just is, it doesn't need a reason, it just is. Why would God need a reason to do anything? Why would God need to do anything to be Reality? It is. Meditation and contemplation are a good ideas to try to understand this. Question and observe yourself making up reasons to do things.

Itself, if you wanna suggest that anything started at all. Who says anything ever started? If God is infinite, why does it need to start anything? It already just is. It doesn't need to be aware of itself, it is being itself already. The process of identification is where the loneiness comes from, a belief in seperateness. The ego is a conceptual system trying to run the human so it can survive, if you where to realize the boundless nature of you, the ego would be realized to be what it is, what it always was, stories about a self.

Who is it that decides what view of what is happening is the right one?

There has to be a grasping that there is nothing to grasp, this is the paradox. How does one grasp non-grasping? The ego won't let this happen very easily, it is grounded in bealiving there is something it needs to grasp, to know, to manipulate. The nothing to grasp is something, it is everything, one must have the discipline to decern what is, cutting threw the process of identification until it dissolves. All knowledge, memory, is an impression about the thing and not the thing itself, Reality is indistinct & infinite, therefor cannot be squished into a model or idea. This doesn't mean that you should't attempt to create a map to help you navigate life, it is just to realize what is, is so, and not what some self conceptualizes about it.

Exactly! The not knowing who you are is pure freedom, it is just the ego is afraid of it because the ego is grounded in knowing, in memories of old crusty expirences that aren't even true anymore. Not knowing who you are is amazing, then you can be whatever, you can be what is, you can be here and now always, never caught up in stories. It is groundless, ground yourself in Being, in Presence. Attempting to ground yourself in anything else will be more ego. The truth is you are always relating to your concepts about what you think this "other person" is, you can never really know another, but you can be present & compassionate, try to break threw the rocks of beliefs and be with the other here and now. Relate to them by seeing them as the Beingness as a manifestation of the One.

Have you ever had an expirence of being happy about being sad? You want to get to a point where you let everything be as it is, without judgement, without thinking that "This is something I have to get rid of." Mediation is very useful for this. The desire to get rid of certain emotions is exactly what pepetuates them, love all your emotions, they are the spice of life. They are trying to communicate something to you, what are they saying? Are you listening to them? What images come up?

Notice you are assuming conciousness has to be "generated". Who said anything has to be "generated"? Why can't everything just be as it is? Nothing is generated, but it seems to me that states constantly change.

A vision forms, one in this case of "Me being rich". This vision gets more vivid and more clear, the abstract becomes the concreate as you channel the vision into the actual. It is about the vision, which as it becomes more present starts to apear as intentions, which become actions. This is how anything is manifested, grows from nothing in a sense. The vision clears the way for the state to shift into the state that the vision represents.

There is no one to be enlighted. Enlightenment is not a state, it is just what is. The state "you" are in is always changing, and you are not any of these states.

Look deeply into this loneliness, you are the only thing that can give it Love. Anything that you are comparing to anything else is fiction, always a concept, never Being. There are layers to what is going on, first at the absolute level of being everything is one, then at the relative level everyone is what they are, they are the people you love, and the self you are trying to survive as. You can't really know that there is no such thing as the person, as knowing is something the person does, however you can be it. As people we are in the relative trying to grasp the absolute, to realize our oneness with the Truth, & how we are it. Forget about what anyone told you, you DON'T KNOW, it is just concepts that someone told you about. Be here and now, discover what is true for youself.

Because Beingness is not a thing, it is no-thing. Stopping something implies you think it is something that ever started, there isn't anything going on, nothing ever started, so nothing to end. Not a ground beneath your feet, not a cloud in the sky. It is all you, painting a picture of you. A sneaky artist God is.

All it wants is itself, and it already is itself, it already is, it is. There is a divine flow, the nature of things, an infinite fractal in constant flux. Fear is a projection from the ego so the ego can keep away from alinement with Infinity. The Love is there always, it is waiting here and now for you to open up to its truth. There never was suffering other then the suffering of pretending to be that what you are not.

@levani The I trying to undestand or realize it is not you. You are the beingness that encapsulates all. Cannot be seen, or understood, just be. Realizing the resistance is not you creates the space for you to just be and observe the resistance with love & curiousity. This state is still in duality, but not attached to a paticular self perpetuated self created self. Sit with what is going on the level of sensations, notice that any resistance reaction is also a sensation & see it, hear it, feel it as such.