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  1. I feel that Leo hasn't really explained how the universe is Good
    I feel that Leo hasn't really explained how the universe is Good
    Because it is necessary. You just lack the consciousness and intelligence to see the necessity of children dying.
    Everything that exists is absolutely necessary and could not be otherwise.
    Reality is Absolute Perfection. The only problem is that your vision is clouded.

  2. Acceptance and love for my dark side
    Acceptance and love for my dark side
    Nothing quite like psychedelics to bring out your shadow.
    2 years of therapy in 1 trip.

  3. New video: Overcoming nihilism
    New video: Overcoming nihilism
    No. It is not I who says their morality has an objective basis. It is THEY who say that.
    I say that all morality is just selfishness.
    Practical is just selfishness. Of course there are many people how have practical morality. The point of all morality is to be practical and to serve one's survival. But this doesn't make it true. It is a fiction.
    Not the same stuff.
    I know that everything is Good. JP doesn't. Nor do you.
    No, all morality is personal preference. The difference is, I am honest about it, people like JP are not.
    No two people in the world have the exact same morality. Which clearly tells you that morality is relative.
    Moral systems around the world and across time vary enormously.
    There are many commonalities because humans tends to have similar survival needs. Since morality is pure selfishness, people tend to be selfish in similar ways.
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    The core problem here is that you fundamentally don't understand relativity. Contemplate what relativity is.

  4. New video: Overcoming nihilism
    New video: Overcoming nihilism
    Dude, your posts seriously lack nuance.
    If you keep going down this road of misunderstanding you will be asked to leave the forum. You are misunderstanding a lot of stuff.
    Spiral Dynamics is a relative fiction. I share it with you guys as training wheels for making some bit of sense of the social and political landscape -- without which you would be lost like a baby in the middle of the ocean.

  5. I feel that Leo hasn't really explained how the universe is Good
    I feel that Leo hasn't really explained how the universe is Good
    In the absolute sense you are free to hate your pain.
    The problem for you is that hate and resistance to pain just makes the pain worse.
    But you are free to torture yourself until you wise up.
    What you don't appreciate is that mankind is the cause of most of its own suffering.
    Education cannot come from the heavens, mankind has to bootstrap it from nothing.
    Everything has to be bootstrapped. This bootstrapping process is very challenging.
    Exactly, God cannot awaken unless God really wants to. So God struggles help itself.
    God put itself in this survival game.

  6. A question for Leo
    A question for Leo
    @Need Answers It's very simple: you are God dreaming up all of reality. The end.
    What you can dream is completely unlimited.
    As a newbie this will not help you. You need to do practices or psychedelics to become more conscious.
    If you want Truth you should be willing to burn every assumption to the ground. Including the assumption of other people.

  7. Is soul mate real?
    Is soul mate real?
    You can develop many soul mates. Intimacy can be consciously created. It doesn't just have to be something that thrusts itself on you.
    Take responsibly for creating your soul mate connection.
    Love is not such a limited thing.

  8. GF found out I watch porn
    GF found out I watch porn
    When females are injected with testosterone, their sex drive increases and they are more interested in having casual sex without care for any guy in particular.
    The sex drive created by testosterone is of such a character that it is indifferent to who it is having sex with. The female sex drive is different in that it is highly selective and tends to only want sex with one specific person. Whereas the male sex drives does not care who it has sex with.
    This is difficult for females to accept and understand because to understand it requires having testosterone running through your blood. Which you actually could do. But then you might grow a mustache.
    Male and female sex drives are quantitatively and qualitatively different.
    But nothing I said is a justification for any kind of behavior. You can't derive an ought from an is. Certainly men can be in monogamous relationships. Although the more testosterone your man has the more sexual variety he will tend to demand.
    Porn is actually a good way to keep your man from cheating on you, since it creates a sort of release valve. It helps to understand that your man is not falling in love with the girls in the porn. That's not how a man's mind works. Also, the porn is never as good as real sex, so you're not going to lose a man to porn.
    Jerking off to Facebook friends? That is admittedly weird and creepy.

  9. Leo, What is a burning question you still are trying to understand?
    Leo, What is a burning question you still are trying to understand?
    That's not how it works for most people.
    You could meditate for 1 hour per day for 40 years and never reach enlightenment. But if you combined all those hours into a single block that is 2 weeks long, you are way more likely to reach enlightenment. This is why hardcore retreats are so important and why most normies who do casual meditation will never reach enlightenment. Enlightenment is rare precisely because you can't build it up like a muscle in most cases, you need to go balls to the wall for a breakthrough, and most people are too unseriousness to meditate for 2 weeks straight.
    It is possible to develop some meditation muscle slowly over years, but more than likely such weak sauce will not get you to radical mystical consciousness. This is why monks exist. It's just much more effective to go hardcore as a monk.

  10. Soonhei (Member of this community) killed himself to experience Conscious Death. :-(
    Soonhei (Member of this community) killed himself to experience Conscious Death. :-(
    Because he's literally an insane attention whore.
    You have to understand that not everyone here is an honest actor. People here come to spam, troll, clickbait, hijack the community, start their own cults, spread ideologies, seek attention, act out their egos, vent their shadows, etc.

  11. Major Discussion Of Actualized.org Teachings & The Future
    Major Discussion Of Actualized.org Teachings & The Future
    Edited: After some deeper reflection, I am modifying my original post be more open and accommodating.
    This will be a master thread of sorts for dealing with the fallout of recent events, specifically focused on clarifying and discussing the nature of my work and Actualized.org as a whole.
    This community and my followers are going to go through a self-sorting. Whatever grievances you have with my teachings, express it here.
    If you believe my work has ever promoted suicide, you should leave this forum because you fundamentally misunderstand my work and we will not get along. If you have a problem with psychedelics, if you believe psychedelics are bad, wrong, dangerous, untruthful, and not genuine awakening, you should also leave this forum because we have a fundamental disagreement that I will not be arguing with you about. My work and research is deeply intertwined with psychedelics. If you don't like that, then simply find a community or teacher who does the classic path.
    In general, feel free to vent whatever grievances you have with me personally, or with my work. Whatever you don't like or disagree with. Lay all your cards out on the table so that we clear the air. This is necessary to create a non-toxic community going forward which is not constantly at war with itself. The general rule is this: don't waste your time and energy on things you do not align with. Think carefully whether this community aligns with your values, and if it doesn't, just let it go and move on to things that align with you.

  12. Soonhei (Member of this community) killed himself to experience Conscious Death. :-(
    Soonhei (Member of this community) killed himself to experience Conscious Death. :-(
    I don't know the details. Connor lies so much that it's hard to tell what is true about him. Suffice it to say he's got serious issues which probably existed for a long time.

  13. Soonhei (Member of this community) killed himself to experience Conscious Death. :-(
    Soonhei (Member of this community) killed himself to experience Conscious Death. :-(
    We regularly talk people down from suicide if they come to us and tell us explicitly that they wish to commit suicide. I spent 1 hour last week talking down Connor Murphy because he emailed me and told me he wants to kill himself. Then I discovered he was just trolling me.
    So that is not the issue. The issue is that SoonHei did not explicitly say he wants to commit suicide. He alluded to it in vague, cheerful, and poetic ways -- and it's hard to spot that when we deal with hundreds of messages and posts every week.
    The problem with suicide threats is that they are often trolling attempts for attention. This makes it difficult to distinguish who is serious and who is not. Depressive and mentally unstable people tend to threaten suicide a lot even when they don't really mean it. I used to have an ex-girlfriend who did that, and she was sometimes shocked when I called the suicide hotline for her. She treated it as a manipulation tactic to get sympathy and love. Don't forget how twisted and deceptive some people can be. And then on top of it they can get upset when you call the suicide hotline on them. The bottom line is that suicide prevention is not our job here. We do it only as a last resort when there is no other choice, but for that we need to be clearly aware the person is suicidal.

  14. Never Kill Yourself For Any Reason
    Never Kill Yourself For Any Reason
    It does little good for someone who is suffering to tell them that suffering isn't real. They are in no place to care about such distinctions.
    You also have no idea how much suffering they are in. You assume they can enjoy life like you, but if they seriously want to kill themselves then obviously they do not enjoy life like you. So it's a very difficult situation.

  15. Never Kill Yourself For Any Reason
    Never Kill Yourself For Any Reason
    Pre-rational >> rational >> trans-rational
    Trans-rational it NOT irrational.
    Be careful with this classic pre/trans fallacy.
    Genuine spirituality is more than rational. Consciousness makes you more intelligent, not less.

  16. Soonhei (Member of this community) killed himself to experience Conscious Death. :-(
    Soonhei (Member of this community) killed himself to experience Conscious Death. :-(
    Jumping off a bridge is not fucking mahasamadhi ?? This is not a “conscious death” where one is entering a very powerful state of samadhi and transcends the traces of karmic bonds (which, even that is debatable). This is just suicide and a very irresponsible one at that as a result of needlessly confusing psychedelic states of mind with actual truth. That’s all that is. A reckless abandonment fueled by utter delusion. 
    Best wishes to his wife and 2 kids. 

  17. Soonhei (Member of this community) killed himself to experience Conscious Death. :-(
    Soonhei (Member of this community) killed himself to experience Conscious Death. :-(
    @SoonHei To his sister, thank you for replying and confirming his death. As of now, I am inclined to believe you that it is true. Although I have no further proof of it. I'm sorry for your loss and I understand it is confusing why a spiritual and happy person would do such a gratuitous thing.
    There is nothing spiritual about jumping off a bridge. It's clear from his messages that he understood his dream would end. So that's exactly what happens. The dream of life ends. The dream of life is a beautiful gift and ending it prematurely for no good reason (such as extreme suffering) is a ridiculously unnecessary thing to do. Life is meant to be lived out, not ended prematurely. Spiritual awakening can be had here and now, without need of any physical harm to the body. That is the entire point of spiritual work and practice. If jumping off a bridge was valid spiritual practice, then there wouldn't need to be any teachings. The teaching would just be: go jump off a bridge. And obviously no spiritual person teaches that.
    It frustrates me when people misuse spiritual teachings in such gross and obvious ways.
    Connor is mentally ill, batshit crazy, and has no integrity. Do not associate my teachings with Connor in any way. He broke everything I told him and I warned him about. I warned him back in December 2020 by phone that what he was doing was antithetical to my teachings. The things he was doing went against the core of what I teach and warned about in my Become A Zen Devil video, and many other videos. He was chronically abusing psychedelics in ways that I warned against from day 1 in my video: How To Use Psychedelics For Personal Development, and elsewhere. He also lied to me multiple times. He lied to me about his chronic psychedelic use, he lied about mental illness, and more.
    You need to distinguish between what is true and what is convenient from a social POV.
    It is true that everything is Good and Love. This truth make zero prescriptive claims. It does not justify anything and it does not tell you what you should or shouldn't do.
    Do not frame this situation such that speaking truth is discouraged or impossible. Myself and others are not going to lie about what is true just because someone might jump off a bridge. The idea that reality is a dream/illusion has been spoke of by mystics and sages for thousands of years, and this understanding is commonly available to anyone who reads spiritual literature. Do not act like Actualized.org invented this notion. All of the spiritual masters you revere and love: Ramana Maharishi, Eckhart Tolle, and whoever else -- have told you that reality is an illusion/dream.
    Again, this is absolutely true. This is what serious spirituality claims. But it makes no prescriptive claims.
    It is not like Actualized.org is the first to say that reality is Perfection. This has been said by spiritual teachers and mystics across time.
    In all of my work I have never acted like relative truths and social issues are unimportant. In fact, I embody the opposite. I speak about Conscious Politics so much because relative social issues are very important. Nobody following my work should get the idea that a healthy society is unimportant or that criminality or doing suffering to others is acceptable.
    This is so obvious that to even shoot a video stating so would be seen as needlessly obvious. Do I really need to release a video in which I say: "Being a criminal is not good and you should not harm other people? Do not rape or torture others. Do not jump off a bridge." Would anyone who was serious about criminality, rape, torture, or jumping off a bridge watch such a video and listen to it? You see, this is a game that cannot be won.
    Also, much of my work is not about spirituality but personal development, building a good life, being active in life, living a life purpose, and improving your health. I have never discounted the importance of building a good life, even as I talked about awakening and God and so forth. In fact I have warned against using spirituality as an escape from mastering survival. I talk about the importance of building a Stage Blue foundation.
    But in the end, if someone decides that they don't want to play the game of survival any more and just want to rest with God, who are we to stop them? From our POV that seems foolish and unnecessary, but if a spiritual seeker wants to end his dream, that is his right and I will not invent some fantasy for why he is morally wrong in doing so. He is not wrong. I would just tell him not to do it because life is a precious gift and ought to be enjoyed, not escaped.
    A) Truth, consciousness, and awakening are not philosophies. And it has been stated ad nausea not to take them as beliefs or philosophy. The dangers of ideology have been explained by me perhaps more than any other spiritual teacher. All I do is talk about the dangers of ideology.
    B) Great detail is put into the teachings/videos to explain how self-deceptive the ego-mind is, how selfish it is, how many traps in this work there are, and further elaborations.
    The fact is that the ego-mind will use whatever stories it wants to justify its selfish actions. If someone wants to blow themselves up for Jihad, they will find a way to justify it in their minds. My work goes into so much length about the ease with which the ego-mind will justify selfish activity and corrupt and co-opt spiritual truths.
    In the case of Jihad, I specifically teach about the difference between Lesser Jihad and Greater Jihad.
    There is no contradiction at all.
    It is simply true that everything is Good and Perfect. This is what awakening reveals. But how you behave has consequences and there are relative truths. If you stick your hand in a fire, it will burn.
    What Connor did was "bad" only in a relative sense, from a social POV. There is no contradiction here.
    It's not that I tell him whatever fits my agenda. It's that his ego-mind says whatever it wants to justify however it wants to behave. And this is have taught a lot: that your own mind will trick you and justify whatever selfishness is wants without limit.
    I also teach how there are many POVs and perspectives, absolute and relative, and that absolute and relative should be not be conflated.
    It is simply true that reality is a dream. I will say this and teach this whether you decide to torture someone or not. If you decide to torture someone, those consequence are 100% on you, even though its all a dream. Dreams have consequences.
    It is important to give people warnings about misunderstanding the teachings. And will certainly do more of that in the future, as I have in the past. BUT, all spiritual work has inherent risks, especially when done at mass scale, this is unavoidable and such teachings cannot be made fool-proof. I have also said that many times in the past. No matter what is taught about spirituality, there will always come along some fool, mentally ill person, or criminal who takes the teaching and uses to justify whatever selfish action he wants.
    When Eckhart Tolle teaches something, "Just be in the now", some fool somewhere will take that to mean, "I can just off a cliff and just be in the now and things should go okay for me". Or when some Christian mystic says, "God forgives all sins and doesn't judge you", some criminal will take that to mean, "Okay, so if I kill my neighbor God will just forgive me and there will be on consequences."
    Where does it end? How many disclaimers and warnings must be given? The problem is that an ego-mind who is self-deceived will not be interested in any warnings or disclaimers or even reason. Meanwhile reasonable people will find the disclaimers tedious and so obvious as to be unnecessary. The mind has an infinite capacity for denial and it will do whatever it wants to do. We should take measure to prevent genuine misunderstanding of the teachings by reasonable and well-rounded people, but we cannot foolproof this work against people who are criminal, insane, or simply desire to end their life.
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    I want to make it clear that I take this issue seriously and I am not just here to issue some blanket, self-serving defense. I want to make my teachings safe for all reasonable people, and I want to make clear to people the inherent risks of spiritual work. I have done that in the past in my videos, but I am also interested in being even more clear and explicit about it in the future precisely because the relative social consequences have always mattered to me, and my teachings are meant to reduce suffering and selfishness in the world. It disappoints and frustrates me when spiritual teachings are corrupted or misused, and when spirituality or psychedelics are given a bad name by irresponsible people. But the fact is that corruption and misuse of spiritual teachings is not anything new or unique to Actualized.org. Mankind has been corrupting and abusing spiritual teachings for 2000 year. And that is not going to stop in our lifetimes. But that is not a reason to stop teaching. But I will definitely teach with greater care to preempt misinterpretation as much as possible. It's just not easy to anticipate every possible misinterpretation. It never even crossed my mind that someone would decide to "consciously jump off a bridge". It's hard to even take such an action seriously unless after it occurs.
    I have said in the past that my teachings will be corrupted. Because that's what the mind does. And this will not be the last time my teachings are corrupted. The reason I record long videos is to provide sufficient depth and detail to avoid future corruption. But the nature of the beast is such that people will still find ways to corrupt my teachings and the longer the videos, the more excuse they will have to say, "But your videos are too long, so I didn't watch them." I have never been under any illusions that my teachers will be corrupted by some minds. That is how this works. I have videos explaining why this corruption is inevitable.
    But again, this is not an excuse. I will adjust my teachings to make them clearer and more foolproof in the future.
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    A final important point:
    Let us not overlook that there is the possibility that SoonHei made a sober, conscious, sovereign choice to end his dream. In which case, as much as we might disagree or not like that, that is really not our call. And it is not correct to automatically assume that what he did was wrong or delusional. It could have been delusional, but it also could have been a conscious choice he made which was right for him. There is no way for us to know.
    This is not an excuse or a justification for anything. Rather, given his own words, if we are to take his own words seriously and give him the benefit of the doubt, then there is the possibility he made a conscious, sovereign choice to move on into the next dream, or into Infinity, or whatever he imagined. Personally I think it was not a good choice and if he asked me about it I would have told him to not do something so stupid. But who am I to know what is right for him?
    So the point is, this situation is more complex than it seems.

  18. Leo, have you done no-fap?
    Leo, have you done no-fap?
    Speak for yourself.
    Not all of us are as depraved as you.
    I can watch normal porn in moderation and enjoy it in many ways, including aesthetic and spiritual. If you can't, that's not my problem. I feel sorry for ya.

  19. Reading "The Game", Who is Owen Cook, Attending his seminars, my first impressions
    Reading "The Game", Who is Owen Cook, Attending his seminars, my first impressions
    Do not take girls into the club. Take them out of the club.
    Taking a girl into a club is terrible for logistics. You want to isolate her in quiet area to build rapport and begin seduction. It's hard to do that in a club. You need better date location ideas.
    1) You are being too needy
    2) You are making her the prize and she knows it. Stop making her feel like you are beneath her. She needs to feel that you are above her.
    You should have instead teased her: "Your friends are all imaginary" or "Your friends hate you". This sets the proper frame of you being above her. You did the opposite, making yourself look like a pathetic loser with no friends who is trying to get into her party.
    Let a few days pass without pestering her with your neediness.
    Then try to make her laugh a bit and then ask out for coffee or something like that. No clubs, no friends. Those are all obstacles.
    And stop putting her on a pedestal. You need to be cooler than her. YOU are the prize, not her. She should feel lucky to get a coffee with you. You've got it all backwards. Stop acting like a needy girl and start acting like a man.

  20. Reading "The Game", Who is Owen Cook, Attending his seminars, my first impressions
    Reading "The Game", Who is Owen Cook, Attending his seminars, my first impressions
    You haven't even done one approach. So don't kid yourself.
    For you, keep it simple: find venues in your town where women hang out and start approaching. Go out at least 3 nights a week and try to do 5-10 approaches per night.
    That's basically it. Nothing about this should break integrity.

  21. Frank Yang's video response to Leo's video - about stage Turquoise
    Frank Yang's video response to Leo's video - about stage Turquoise
    Certainly not.
    You are not conscious of what Love is.
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    Actually I disagree with this Vipassana approach. It's too reductionistic. I understand what you are saying: you can deconstruct experience into discrete sensations and so forth as Vipassana loves to do, and this can be very useful and liberating. But this is not the same thing as a holistic consciousness of what things are. It's the spiritual equivalent of saying that the physical universe is nothing more than atoms. And this not correct. There is an understanding beyond the sum of its parts. Which is precisely why Vipassana people are not God-realized. They don't know what God is because you cannot know God by breaking experience down into atoms. I would further say that you cannot know what Consciousness is that way either.
    There is a holistic infinite intelligence to Consciousness which is not any of its parts.
    God is not any one sensation, nor can it be said to be just another experience among all the other experiences, like a table or a dog.
    It is sort of like one who cannot recognize a human as a human because one insists on only seeing it as a bunch of cells. And what I'm pointing out is that something very important is missed in that approach. In fact, THE most important thing is missed. The goal should not be to atomize consciousness, but rather to interconnect it all infinitely to reach the highest understanding.
    People like Shinzen Young, who spent 40 years in Vipassana deconstructing sensations are not God-realized. I questioned him very carefully. He does not understand what God is. He's a sweet and beautiful man, but God-realized he is not, and I don't want you to get trapped in that way.
    People like Daniel Ingram also do not understand what God is -- even though Ingram has extraordinary technical meditative skill. Technical meditative skill is not good enough. Losing the ego is also not enough. What's missing is a holistic universal comprehension achieved by Infinite Mind. The Universe can grasp itself using its own Infinite Intelligence. And Intelligence is not any one sensation so you will never find it if you insist on only looking at individual sensations. It is the classic problem of missing the forest for the trees. Vipassana is like studying trees with a microscope and never seeing the forest.

  22. Reading "The Game", Who is Owen Cook, Attending his seminars, my first impressions
    Reading "The Game", Who is Owen Cook, Attending his seminars, my first impressions
    I was mostly referring to PUA coaches and pros.
    You can do pickup ethically, but very few people do. Most PUAs come from a wounded and traumatized past and they fall into toxic stage Orange selfishness.
    In general I don't have a high opion of pickup, but it will get you laid. If you are struggling to get laid, it works for that, but you must beware of the toxic and selfish habits you'll likely absorb along the way.
    Pickup is sort of a necessary evil for guys who suck with women. Guys who suck with girls need help. They cannot just be left to wallow in their misery because that will be even more toxic. So pickup serves that function. But it will introduce its own toxicity as price of entry which you will later have to transcend.
    Pickup does make you a better guy if you use it right. But there is a cost, and many guys who get better just abuse their new high value by using it selfishly.
    There are also many degrees of becoming a better guy. My standards are pretty high.
    If you want high integrity, pickup is not how you build that. Pickup is about become good at socializing.

  23. This is how you can simulate PUA workshop
    This is how you can simulate PUA workshop
    Finding a wingman is the key.
    If you find a good wingman, it's better than a $2000 bootcamp.

  24. This is how you can simulate PUA workshop
    This is how you can simulate PUA workshop
    Mostly 4 things:
    1) Keeps you company, keeps your motivation up
    2) Gives you advice from his base of deep experience
    3) Demonstrates how to do proper pickup
    4) Helps you pull 2-sets where the other girl needs a guy. It's basically impossible to pull a 2-set without a wing.
    Yes
    That's classic three-some game.

  25. Is it possible to never find ANY girls who perceive you to be their type?
    Is it possible to never find ANY girls who perceive you to be their type?
    Because if you can handle cold approach, the rest will be cake.
    And also because once you get older and you move cities a few times, you'll realize how much harder it is to meet people in those easy ways. You better learn some hard skills. You can't hope life will always be easy.
    No
    You will even attract hotties.
    If I showed you pics of the kind of girls I attracted, you would think I'm lying.
    If you talk to 1000 girls, you will attract some stunners. But of course stunners are rare so you gotta actually find where they hang out and talk to them. If you never talk to a stunner, you have zero chance of attracting one. The problem with attracting stunners is not that they demand too much, but they are simply not common in the general population. You are never going to find a stunner at your local Walmart.