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@vizual Here ya go

Yes, that is the problem. MBTI Golden Pairs corresponds to Mirage & Contrary relations in Socionics. These Intertype Relations don't share the same values, so even if they're both mature, the relationship will still be less than ideal. Mirage might work as this relation values half of the same cognitive functions, but Contrary is bound to fail as these relations value none of the same functions. This is what matters. You know nothing of that Girl so I wouldn't be too quick to judge. She has actually written several articles on Jungian typology. Here's her blog -- https://typevolution.com She also has clients who've paid for coaching -- https://typevolution.com/testimonials/ @vizual

Some people are smart, beautiful, rich, talented. Others aren't. I'm part of the people who aren't. It's that simple. But it seems too simple to be true, doesn't it? You want to believe that there's more to it. You want to believe that "everything happens for a reason". But it doesn't. It's so simple and absurd, it's funny almost. I don't have the motivation to work. I think part of it is because I can't get over the fact that I have to put so much effort into working just to hope to have food on table, just to hope to make friends, while so many rich, beautiful, smart people are breezing through life without ever having a remote understanding of how much of a struggle it can be to be forced to do things you hate just to survive physically, mentally. I have to and they don't just because luck. That's all there is to it. It shouldn't be all, but it is. How do you deal with this? I feel trapped in this harsh reality. I didn't choose to be born in it and yet I'm forced to work hard to fend for myself, dreaming of things that I will probably never achieve. My jealousy is out of control and it's making me question what's the point of even going on.

@Leo Gura And why is that? Especially as someone who deals with fatigue? Some people swear by it.

@Leo Gura How often do you use MODA nowadays?

Rather than "annoy" each other as you suggest, duals "help" each other for this very reason. They cover each other's weaknesses whilst admiring each other's strengths. If you want to educate yourself, this gal knows what she's talking about: It is very different. MBTI Golden Pairs don't value the same cognitive functions whereas duals do. You'd want to date within your own Quadra as Socionics suggests. Here's another video if you want to learn more: @vizual

@vizual MBTI "Golden Pair" theory is very much flawed. I would suggest Socionics Intertype relations theory. Much more accurate.

@Tristan12 Seems like a gross stereotype, but I can understand why you would think that.

@integral I think the theory reflects my own personal experience with people. I’ve always gotten along with ISFP for example.

@JosephKnecht What's the difference?

Leo explicitly states that death is love. Those who commit suicide to attain infinite love are not "misinterpreting" his videos. @SavourTime

The letters don't matter. Look at the cognitive functions. INTJ & ENTP share no cognitive functions. @SavourTime They're actually one of the least compatible matches contrary to popular belief.

I think ISFP / ESFP / INTJ / ENTJ are the best matches for an INTJ. INFP might work for friendship but not ideal for romance @integral shared cognitive functions == more compatible. You'd want to date within your quadra. Watch the video I sent you.

ESFPs are not capable of love? That's harsh to say @Tristan12

i wouldn't think like this. all humans are spiritual regardless of personality type. @Tristan12

@integral Here ya go,

well Socionics Intertype Relations explain this quite well, https://www.sociotype.com @Tristan12

Does your father & brother get along given that they are the same type, hence similar values? @integral

ENFJ & ISTJ is the worst possible match, known as "Conflictor" in Socionics Intertype Relations: https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/intertype_relationships/Conflicting @SavourTime

@integral is an INTJ. ENFJ would be his supervisor, which can be problematic. https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/intertype_relationships/Supervision @SavourTime are you sure your friends/girlfriends are ENFJ? That's not the most compatible match if what you are is an INTJ. As an INTJ myself, I know firsthand that ENFJs don't work with me. Too much friction.

@patricknotstar which city are you doing this in?

@integral i agree

haha @puporing

you think suicide/mental-illness is a matter of not having a thick enough skin? an avoidance of suffering? @Leo Gura

How would you type Seattle? @Leo Gura