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Everything posted by Yali
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@Loba That's possible, but it's more likely that he or his friend is mistyped.
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These types share no cognitive functions so the potential of their relationship is limited. @Proserpina Whereas these types, known as relations of activity, share all cognitive functions and thus ideal for relationship. http://www.socionics.com/rel/act.htm
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@Nilsi You or your friend must be mistyped because according to Socionics, that's the worse possible match. They're known as relations of conflict and are bound to clash. If you're an INTP, you'd find your dual, ESFJ, a better match. http://www.socionics.com/rel/dlt.htm http://www.socionics.com/rel/cnf.htm
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@thisintegrated Never said it does
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@thisintegrated In his case, very little effort since he's married to his dual. http://www.socionics.com/rel/dlt.htm
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@thisintegrated That's funny because the CIA spy in the video you posted is an ENTP married to an ISFJ.
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@thisintegrated I'd advise you to get your head out of the theory and go and actually talk to people, then come back and reevaluate.
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@thisintegrated We're going to have to agree to disagree. Unlike MBTI, Socionics ITR has reflected my personal interactions with people.
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@thisintegrated So do you feel I as an INTJ would get along with an ESFJ? CS Joesph thinks so. He thinks we're one of the most compatible pairing, which is laughable because that does not at all reflect my experience with that type. Instead, Socionics hits it on the nail -- http://www.socionics.com/rel/cnf.htm
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@thisintegrated Relationship Compatibility.pdf
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@thisintegrated I've shared interests with INTPs but I felt our relationship lacking and I assume that's because of a lack of shared cognitive functions. Just because I share common interests, that doesn't mean I like them. We've got common interests to bond over, but otherwise our relationship is mute.
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@thisintegrated Yes it does. INTJs and INTPs belong to the same club and share similar interests. But beyond sharing interests, INTJs and INTPs have very little in common. They value opposite functions. https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/clubs/ Clubs are often a common nucleus of spontaneous social interaction (as opposed to "non-spontaneous" as in work, study etc) in modern western societies, and therefore a very common point of formation for social groups, more so than quadras since spontaneous social interaction with new acquaintances tends to be based on common activities and interests if not based on extension of one's close social circle, where quadras are more relevant.
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I've had two INTP friends in my life and although we had similar temperaments, we were on totally different wavelengths mentally speaking. Quasi-identical relation: The quasi-identical relation describes two types that are similar in their strengths, weaknesses and energy levels, but opposite in quadra values. These types can appear superficially similar to each other on the outside, but have motivations and values that strongly contrast with each other, making them near opposites on the inside. Despite not being suited to support each other whatsoever, quasi-identicals have a better chance of getting along with each other in contrast to the other opposing quadra relations @thisintegrated
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@thisintegrated Ok man, looks like you've got a theory that you feel confident about but it doesn't reflect my life experience. I notice as an INTJ I get along very well with ISFP, ESFP, ENTJ, INTJ whereas INTP,ENTP,ESFJ,ISFJ are fire and ice.
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Who'd you learn this from? @thisintegrated
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Oh so you're saying functions generate infomation for its opposite function to use, and that's what produces compatibility? @thisintegrated
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@thisintegrated I haven't got a clue what you're talking about. We must be getting our information from different sources.
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I don't know why you believe opposite values seek each other out. That's like saying an athiest and fundamentalist christain seek each other out. That's non-sense! @thisintegrated
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@thisintegrated Yea, and religious theologians have spent more time thinking about God than most of us but they're just as clueless as you.
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No, I mean what I say. I think you're misguided. @thisintegrated
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@thisintegrated Well those years of research hasn't amounted to much.
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Well informed by who? @thisintegrated
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This is flat out wrong. Duality is based off sharing the same functions but in opposite order. I don't know who you're getting your knowledge from but I would recommend Typevolution on YouTube. @thisintegrated
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I think Socionics Compatibility makes more sense since its based off shared cognitive functions unlike MBTI. How can you expect to get along with someone who doesn't share your values? @thisintegrated