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Don’t get me wrong, I most definitely think this virus is a serious threat, we need to take it seriously and many people will die. There is nothing “good” about people dying. But I can’t help but try to focus on what benefit this virus could have on the greater society. I see the world coming to almost a complete hault for 2-4 weeks. We will work together to help others in need, regardless of race, demographic, sex, age etc. I especially see the elderly being brought to the forefront, prioritized and made to improve their “worth”. People will learn to look inwards, focusing on close friends, family and even self. The United States will finally come to realize the necessity to elect Bernie Sanders. Does anyone else agree?

I know I need to stay positive. I know everything happens for a reason and I likely manifested this in some way. But how the hell do I not deeply regret making a mistake that caused my son to get sick (likely with COVID - test pending) I can’t help but spiral into thinking about all of the bad things that could happen...

No. There is about to be extreme suffering on an unfathomable scale. Think about one single elderly person you know. They will die from this. Wake up. But that doesn’t mean we all need to be angry, and lose our minds...it means we need to focus on the good, making conscious/unselfish decisions and loving one another.

Agree!

I agree. I see the good in that too. Eventually the world will be better. I continue to urge to everyone I talk to to stay positive

When I first learned about spiral dynamics from Leo I thought of myself as traveling in the spiral from the outside in...towards more understanding...like when you send a coin into the spinning funnel to be collected at the bottom. But now, the way I "see" it is actually the opposite. When one progresses through the different stages they do so by opening and expanding their minds to other possibilities. On a more specific level, these spirals can be narrowed to individual topics or dualities, which are on a single dimension (with an infinite number of dimensions, this helps me to relate). So, in a single dimension or duality, I envision a pendulum, and the more open minded you become...the farther your pendulum swings. Light vs dark ...good vs evil. I used to be afraid of darkness and evil as society had taught me. But as I learn, I now see society is a resistance, as poison...trying to keep me in the center...trying to prevent me from expanding my mind. So I am learning to not fear evil and darkness...but to embrace them and let my pendulum swing farther.

@Leo Gura Why?

When I was growing up, I thought the ying-yang symbol was just some hippie vomit. The more I learn, the more and more I am realizing how insanely deep and meaningful it really is. Anyone else feel the same?

@Lowerplanedweller I think you should give this book a go: https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjQ882inbHkAhULvsAKHRrdAfsYABAGGgJpbQ&sig=AOD64_1lf5rmMKCSPapMDksrcvlIPN6r_w&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwif-8SinbHkAhVDL6wKHV2SDJEQ9aACCMwB&adurl=

This. So this. Everything that Leo talks about, takes a crazy amount time and effort to truly grasp...it is far to difficult for the majority of society to really understand.

I would like to propose the idea of having topics with the heading of The way I see it: _____ . We are all on our own individual journey and can "see", think and understand things differently, especially with the topics that Leo discusses here. I believe that these vantage points on these topics is to be celebrated! So I propose the heading above to provide insights to other peoples points of view.

Anyone know of any? I am thinking Tom Brady for sure...but other than that I think most athletes have used religion as a tool to believe in themselves to get them to that level. It would be interesting to know some and how they do it.

I've contemplated how to manage the Law of Attraction and Resistance for some time but still struggle with it. I believe that is another duality...the simple minded picture of: an angel and one shoulder and a devil on the other. To me this is a good way to put it...although I know it isn't about good or bad but aligning with your vision and trusting the choices you make. Obviously there are times where is it easy to make the choice away from resistance like choosing meditation over watching Netflix for example...but sometimes the choice isn't that easy. The Ego does a great job of painting itself as a beautiful angel sometimes. I am early on in my journey...so how can I tell the difference? Patience? Not worrying about it and just simply trusting that what will be will be? Or is there more to it than that?

"The only thing we have to Fear is Fear itself" -Franklin D. Roosevelt I would sit and contemplate that quote...like really sit and think about it. Also, try to live in the present moment for the only thing that you can change. The past is gone and the future isn't written.

I am not familiar with that term! I have had times while meditating or doing yoga that I have felt "in a spiral"...is that what this means?

Yes, I do think that what I did was a good way for me to let go of my ego. I have recently been working more on meditation and contemplation which I think was a big factor in my experience. I isolated myself in a very clean, dark room for about 4 hours with the intention of doing yoga. I smoked a small amount of weed and just let it happen. I am not sure how to describe it but it was like I was going in and out of conscious and meditative states, becoming more and more frequent as time went on. I definitely felt as though in a spiral. There were times of high energy with a lot of movement but then times where I was completely still. It eventually got to the point where I felt like time was irrelevant, I could sense different dimensions, that I won't ever die and that I was God (or at least understood more the meaning of Jesus and religion....but I've been an atheist my whole life so that was very weird) . It was an amazing experience and I want more. Can't wait to try to get there again!

Last night I believe I had an enlightenment experience. I have watched Leo's videos on Duality and Spiral Dynamics and while I understood them at the time I believe that I EXPERIENCED them last night. I let go of forcing things and just listened. It was like I was talking to myself but who I was listening to wasn't quite me... I could sense different "dimensions" and let my body spiral though them. These "dimensions" were maybe different dualities...and were things like nature, humans, machines, life, death, my chakras. I thought at first that there were 8...but I think there might actually be an infinite number. And you become more and more enlightened with the more dimensions you experience. I saw light and dark...and let go of my fear of darkness and realized that there is nothing to fear at all... I believe Jesus was completely enlightened and tried to convince others of enlightenment through God. And that the symbol of the cross was slightly misinterpreted and really it was him standing at the center of these "dimensions". I felt as though time is relative and is not constant...and that it doesn't matter...because I will not "die". Most people would think I'm on the verge of crazy...but I know some of you here will understand.

I agree...but would love to learn more. What are some good resources?

I've had several major enlightenment experiences while high. I smoke on occasion but not on a regular basis. As long as you are honest with yourself, you set your intentions and don't abuse it I think there is nothing wrong with it! I will say, I have to be completely by myself with no distractions for spirituality while high to work. If you are with your friend, set a different intention to just have fun and enjoy it. Maybe soon you will realize there is no right and wrong

I believe I have become enlightened. I see the “world” as a complex matrix of hubs of energy that are just made up of matrixes within matrixes within matrixes etc etc etc. It is like, now that I have seen it, I cannot unsee it! I am currently in the values portion of the LP course and I am wondering if it is worthwhile to continue and finish the course? I am so curious as to how everything is interconnected and I believe I know where I fit in so is it worthwhile to continue on the LP course or continue my understanding now that I have become enlightened? I believe only those who are also enlightened will be able to truly answer my question.

I will admit that I am very unsure of what “being enlightened” is but I definitely feel as though I am at least in tier 2 and can see how everything is connected and to me is just energy moving from one form to another. I have not thought too deeply yet about death but I can foresee that death really is just a term that humans use to signify the loss of the connections of the systems that form our “being”. I am just so excited to continue to learn from you and actualized.org @Leo Gura

Hi...first off...everyone can benefit from taking the LPC...there really isn't a reason not to do it. I am 32 and I also have ADD, diagnosed a couple years ago. When I first started listening to Leo I too had a hard time finding my way. I think the best place to start is to do the LPC and more specifically, learn about the Law of Attraction. That alone has guided my path to understanding what to do and where I want to go in life. The awesome part about all of this is that once you truly believe in yourself and envision what you want in life, the Law of Attraction just takes over and you trust all the decisions you are making are leading you to that vision. Also, read the book "The War of Art" by Steven Pressfield. Seriously...just do it! Your fear and procrastination will tell you not to, but you NEED to read that book. If you trust yourself, you will naturally find the answers to your questions on your own...because to be honest, only you can answer them. Hope this helps!

Hello, I would like some advice on this topic. I have wanted to try Modafinil for a while now. I was able to get a prescription from my doctor due to my ADHD but I haven't tried it yet because my wife doesn't believe that I need it. She is very against taking medications in general but has let me smoke marijuana on occasion because I have been able to prove to her the benefits that it provides for me. I believe that Modafinil would be worth it for me but how do I convince my wife that it is? Do I go against her wishes and order some anyways to try it? Thanks!