whoareyou
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LOL, i am actually laughing. Where did I say that sex is the most important, or that you shouldn't connect with women more deeply? Watch your projection, and self bias here - you have very negative associations with anything "PUA" related. There is time and place for everything in life. And you got to meet the people where they are at. If a guy wants to learn how to "close", you should give him advice on exactly how to do it. And it is up to them on "how" they want to go about it. If you give him your "green dating" advice, it will be counter intuitive for OP.
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@Serotoninluv You are more lost than I think you actually were. There really is no need for deep analysis here, as this is not what is being discussed here. Instead of addressing the simple point that I made, you created an unnecessary long essay. You are over-complicating it buddy. It's very simple - you got to meet people where they are at. And it is up to them what to do with the advice given. OP did not ask for the advice on what to do with women, or on how to connect with them, he asked on how to CLOSE. Closing is a very important part that many of the new guys struggle. If you never went through the struggle, you will never understand it. Before you judge through your limited ideological paradigm - try to look at a different perspective as I mentioned.
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@Etherial Cat That is your own projection! Who said that it can't be win-win? "Cock blocking friends" is not even a PUA term, it is used very widely in the mainstream in general. You are being too attached to the terminology here, without even understanding what exactly the specific terms mean here. Everything that LEO has mentioned can be a win-win. If you stop projecting, and reading it only from your limited lens - you will see it for what it is. You can be genuine, authentic, and still do what LEO has mentioned here - these things are not exclusive! At the end of the day, these are just tools, and it is up to people on what to do with them.
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Read "The way of superior man". Become more dominant as a man and create polarity. A man who doesn't lead, doesn't know what he wants, and is unsure of himself - will never be the man that woman respect and that crave to be with.
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You have to meet the people where they are at. OP's question was "How to close?". He made it very clear what his goal/intent was and LEO could not have given him a better answer. The same can be said to you - why are you posting such garbage? Garbage here is very relative term - because for this person, the advice that LEO has given is gold. Also, can you tell me how isolating a girl, leading her, and figuring out logistics is automatically manipulating? Do you have any idea of how social dynamics work? Your interpretation of the advice LEO has posted - as in you are trying to trick a girl into liking you, which can't be further from the truth. You may connect with a woman, and she may be very interested in you - but if you fuck up the logistics, and you don't know how to deal with her cock blocking friends, the interaction may go nowhere, that is just the reality. A lot of guys don't know these basic things, so it is very beneficial for them to hear it. @Serotoninluv You usually love to educate people about structure vs content, and to point out how others see things through limited lenses. This time I will point out to you, how you are too immersed in your "green dating" paradigm, and that you are unable to see other perspectives for what they are - without your filter. In fact, you (and others here who are "speaking out") are interpreting LEO's entire answer from only your green paradigm - making it sound what he said 100x worse than it actually is. I would even add, that many of you are too caught up in spiral dynamics, and see majority of things only from the perspective of SP, which is very, very limiting in itself. TA-DA!
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Exactly this and what LEO has said. Sorry to break it to you, but the sex that you had with her was not as "great" as you think. Most men think that they are sex gods, while in reality are very far from that. If you were to ask an average woman how many partners she has been with that she had great sex with, the answer would be 1/10. (you can do research and confirm that). This is of course an honest answer, and no woman will ever admit that to their partner, due to the fear of hurting them or their ego. Up your bedroom game.
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The clear answer here is both. Passion is very important - if you are with someone in a LTR, both should be passionate about each other. Without passion, it won't work. Don't let people tell you that passion is only needed in the beginning - passion is needed in the long run as well, but not the only criteria of course.
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@Leo Gura Do you believe that the experience of reproducing and raising children could help people raise their consciousness? What about the value of producing conscious children for the world? Or at this point, is it all total fiction to you, that you don't think it is necessary at all?
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whoareyou replied to nowimhere's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
100% agreed.Like I said before, @Leo Gura has a very strong left-wing bias (major blindspot actually), which is one of the reasons why he falls for the mainstream narratives. It's part of his constructed identity (how much of an ownership of that perspective he takes) as @Serotoninluv explained above. -
whoareyou replied to nowimhere's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Serotoninluv I would like to know the answer as well or at least what makes you think so. I am afraid that you are purely speculating though and are running away from answering this question. The same exact same thing can be said about yourself - your are immersed in a narrative that Trump was compromised by Russia and seem to be protective of it. -
whoareyou replied to IChoseTheRedPill's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I doubt Leo is aware of this - I am afraid that it's just his own personal bias. I been reading your posts and you seem to be one of the few who really sees things for how they are. -
whoareyou replied to nowimhere's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Ero This is just laughable. There is a lot of dangerous left wing propaganda - how to solve global warming is not one of them. To say that one is more dangerous than other, and thus you should call only one out, is beyond stupid imo. Maybe you have a left-wing bias yourself? -
whoareyou replied to nowimhere's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Leo Gura How come you never call out left-wing propaganda? Why do you only speak out against right-wing? -
whoareyou replied to nowimhere's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Leo said not long ago that he is close to 99% sure that Trump will not get re-elected in 2020. After impeachment, his odds have actually improved: https://www.thelines.com/trump-election-odds-2020-impeachment/ I will say it again - Leo, how about put your money where your mouth is and actually place a bet? Should be easy money for you! With all due respect, Leo, you better off sticking to spirituality and stay out of politics. -
This is total nonsense - you have clearly been brainwashed by the western culture. An actual healthy relationship is when a woman gets to be at her feminine core and a man gets to be fully at his masculine. (This is true for at least 80% of the people, not including the minority where the roles are reversed or where there is equal polarity between masculine/feminine) Your negative association and picture that you painted tells me you have rejected your femininity and are trying to justifying it in all sort of ways, instead of working on healing yourself. I will not respond any longer, as this is something that you won't be able to understand by logic, and without direct experience.
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@Etherial Cat Exactly - I am saying that a lot of the women in Eastern Europe have not lost the touch with their true nature, unlike a large portion of Western women. You would be surprised, but majority of men (including Western men) find those women far more attractive and desired. Some that even travel to these destinations to find a long term partner/wife. There is a difference, and if you don't see it, then I can't help you.
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@Etherial Cat Read the title and OP of this thread : "Dominance during sex" Pulling a woman's hair and slapping her ass during sex is something as natural as it gets - yet a guy is questioning his desire due to social programming he has received in the western world. It is simpler than you think and spiral dynamics doesn't apply to everything. We can agree to disagree, but I will stand by my opinion that social programming in the West is responsible for the things that I mentioned.
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When it comes to femininity in general - you will see that the women are way more feminine in Russia and Eastern Europe for example. You would be able to tell from their energy alone (don't need to meet them in bedroom), not to mention the external factors such as clothing. You indeed should travel to USA - you will be in quite a shock. The social programming goes very deep - I just don't think totally realized it yet.
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You didn't understand my point. I am talking about strictly sex here - what happens in the bedroom. It's not a gross realization - it's the reality after thousands of years of evolution. Sure there are exceptions here and there - but for the vast majority this is the case. As the saying goes- "Women want to be treated like princesses but in bedroom fucked like whores". This does not include women who have had sexual traumas. I am talking about strictly majority of healthy sexually women. In the west - the women are socialized to repress their desire and so are the men. The women became less submissive in general and less feminine than they used to be. Dominance, respect and other traits that one may desire are not exclusive. Yes people enjoy switching and experimenting - but there is still the primary desire. Dominance and respect are not mutually exclusive - not sure where you got that idea from? If you haven't traveled yet, go and travel to Russia + Eastern Europe, and see how feminine + submissive the women there are. Also some Asian countries. The difference is day and night - and social programming is responsible for this.
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Dominance is the key to great sex. Sexual healthy women crave to be dominated after thousands of years of evolution. Majority will enjoy ass spanking, hair pulling, and dirty talk. The key is to mix in variety. You will be surprised how many love getting called words like "slut" during the play. Our society has made the female desire to be submissive to a dominant male taboo. Every one of us has been deluged with social programming like "men want to have sex, women want to make love" and "a woman wants a man who respects her" since grade school. Women are socially conditioned to repress their desire to be dominated and men are conditioned to repress their desire to dominate. In the absence of dominance there is no sexual satisfaction. While women will never speak about it and may not even be conscious of it themselves, they all deeply desire to be submissive to a powerful man.
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This is the best advice that anyone could have given you. Shin has been the most honest and straightforward out of any of responses in this thread. What is more important to you - truth or some kind of fantasy which you have been living all of your life?
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@Preety_India If he is a flat earther and cannot see the absurdity of these beliefs - how do you expect this person to do any serious consciousness work? If you continue to grow and he stays stuck - this won't last very long. In fact, I am calling it now - I am afraid you also have a mismatch in terms of stages. Do not get into any relationship before you do this:
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whoareyou replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This was exactly what I meant. Thank you for articulating yourself so well and providing such easy to understand examples -
whoareyou replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You can create many justifications or reasons for continuing to do what you are doing. Just remember the cost and the price. Consider this hypothetical - if enough people awakened and didn't need any of this, you + many others would be out of business. Truth is prior to life purpose. Yes certainly you can't give universal advice to everybody, hence why I suggested to create sub-categories of the "enlightenment/meditation" section. -
whoareyou replied to Tanz's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
He has been debunked as a cult leader for quite some time now, by various investigative journalists such as this one: https://medium.com/@avera.media/cult-mania-inside-the-attack-on-bentinho-massaro-part-1-881b5628b89a Just by looking at his Instgram, you will find a lot of red flags + incogruence (what he preaches vs what he embodies) Don't be sheep people.