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I'm sure there is like a gajillion of beliefs and reasonings that make it seem like now is not really what is now but they ain't now.

There seems to be a greater vision forming. I've come to call this "A Philosophy of Love", which is not actually philosophy, but a destroyer of all philosophy. This is a non-physical suicide, stripping butt-naked in front of freedom, love, not-knowing, and paradox, which is in fact even more radical than physical suicide - this is an alternative for those who struggle with suicidal thoughts. Here are some guidelines I've come up with: - Make a vow in the name of God to never knowingly damage your body in any way. Invest completely and absolutely in your life. Accept everything that comes. Never run away or hide. Stand naked even when it burns. - Take full responsibility of your life. - Be always truthful about yourself to yourself and the other-self, even radically so. - There is no evil. Accept all and give thanks to everything. There is no other existence on which to compare what appears now: this is the best world of all possible worlds. All is Love. - Dare yourself to look at what you fear. Grow eyes that only see with love and unconditionality. Love every Hitler in the world. Be friends with your enemies. - "I Am" is the only thing you can know for sure. All else is a set of baseless beliefs. - Do not believe nor focus on any thought or perspective that does not feel good. One would never consciously choose to feel not good: feeling is automatically valued above all else. This is not a sin of a human being, but a reflection of true nature. - You create all meaning. - Love God and do what you want.

Don't mind me just letting some steam out: I don't actually care if I go to school or have a job. I don't want to study some stupid shit they teach at schools. (Not all of it is stupid, but you know what I mean.) I don't even want to have a job, really. I'm almost 23 yrs old and the system (and my parents) really wants me to do what people are supposed to do: go to school or at least have some kind of a job. But I don't want that, and I myself don't really care. The only reason I'm even having stress about this is because of my parents. They are so eager to see me become a 'normal' adult, and I would feel bad to hurt them. I understand why they want this, and I understand why the system/society needs me to become a normal working guy, but I just can't identify with it on a deeper emotional/value level. To be as honest as I can, all I really want is to chill out in some beautiful place and philosophize myself out of my mind. And maybe have a girlfriend and some friends in general to philosophize with. I don't want money or fame. I just want a beautiful place to hang out. That's really the only material thing I want. Maybe some clothes too, and food. And a place to piss and shit. And internet. I know that if I really wanted that, I could live on welfare at least a few years. Maybe I could even go homeless or something. I don't know. I just want to be free. And I want this freedom to be effortless. All this hardcore spirituality - self development - money making stuff just feels so fucking hollow and hard. There must be an easier way. I can't accept the idea that this world is some kind of a workplace. Jeez.

@Yarco I've had this kind of experience since childhood. I went to school and had hobbies (sports and such) but it never felt like my "true expression". I basically never did homework nor actually deeply enjoyed my hobbies. I played baseball and such mostly because I thought "it just is what it is" and my parents wanted it. Sometimes I may have some motivation, but deep inside I feel like it's really not what I want to do. All motives kind of feel more like a shadow on a wall rather than "real"... I actually have a depression diagnosis, but mostly I think it's simply due to the fact that many of my thoughts / values don't fit the surroundings (my family, the society etc.) so I often feel quite lonely and disconnected from people and life. And that's the weird thing... I am kind of happy not striving! I sense some kind of a truth here. Life must be more simple than that. The only problem seems to be that this trait of mine don't seem to fit the surrounding world.

Hahahahaha... I just realized. Love is literally all Jed is offering. You just gotta read between the lines. The Truth shall set you free.

You're trying to conceptualize / build a thought-story / build a certain "kind" of reality or structure of that which is beyond stories, conceptualization and structure. Reality being an infinite film reel is a pointer, not the actual consciousness in which this pointer takes place. "If reality X, then it must Y" <-- this is rational language conceptualization. Look for that which is aware of and being this thought-story / logical deduction.

This is extremely hard to explain. The amount of information / energy they transfer is so ridiculous that the mind cannot comprehend it in simple rational symbolic thinking. Imagine studying through a hundred books on human development, metaphysics and spirituality in one second. Your mind cannot (and doesn't have to) convert this amount of wisdom into rational symbolic thinking. After the transfer, you just intuitively feel the information, you know it's there and you are intuitively able to 'connect' to this wisdom when needed. After several days, weeks and months of the transfer you just feel your mind expanding beyond your previous limits and comprehension. You just 'get it'. You don't know how, what, and how to put it into words, but you don't need to. It's all there when you need it. And how do I know they do this... It's just so obvious. Your mind merges with theirs, and there is no doubt. Just like there is no reasonable doubt we are having this conversation right now.

@Snuitje There is some weird stuff going on with the aliens I tell ya. I've met these beings in my lucid dreams. Not Ra perhaps, but there seems to be some kind of spiritually advanced race appearing in my dreams. These are blue-coloured beings. They are able to take any form they need. They can transfer energy and massive amounts of information telepathically. Contrary to other lucid-dream characters, they actually recognize they are visiting "my dream". They have been extremely helpful and loving. I miss them often. They share such beautiful moments and energies. Every time I become lucid, they are my number one go-to friends in that realm. They have helped me with my sexuality too. This is super weird shit, so please don't think I'm a alien-fetish weirdo, but I've had sex with them many times. This seems to be their way of opening certain blocks with my sexual energies.

So humans seem to have all kinds of stories of "where I came from and why", from Purple myths to Blue religious texts to Orange science and perhaps Tier 2 metaphysical ideas etc. These stories play an important role in our minds in an existential sense. The surviving entity needs a role / identity with a past and a future - there needs to be something that survives in order to survive. Survival is kind of a strange loop perhaps. Perhaps what we are doing here with our spirituality stuff is simply trancend these stories, see them for what they are (stories) and choose what brings greater feeling and inspiration. The trancended self itself has no story / purpose / meaning / survival, but gives life to them. Am I starting to 'get it'?

Hehee that kinda reminds me of a two dimensional representation of a sphere in fourth dimension. Them new agers gotta love it.

So... In order to experience one's true self, one first has to forget the true self and mistake oneself as something else. This is the only thing for the Absolute Nature "to do" with it's infinite 'time' and being. And here I am, in a world of this and that, right and wrong, loss and gain, losing and winning, pain and pleasure... etc. The delusion. Correct? But when one remembers... How can one still "stay", or keep experiencing, but not mistaking? How is it possible that one can remember and then forget again, awaken and "come back"? How is it possible that you may ingest DMT and such, and still "come down"? Can one still "play" after one remembers and doesn't mistake it anymore? I quess I'm just afraid that it's all going to end. @Leo Gura @allislove @Nahm

@allislove @Nahm Assuming true self is Love... These are conditions. Hence, not true self. Case closed

So... There has lately been a lot of talk about climate change in Finland. Extinction Rebellion held a few protest here, by blocking certain roads for a day or two. Their goal is to have the government declare climate emergency and make Finland carbon neutral before 2025. (2025 is kinda silly imo but at least they got a vision) The right-wing and others opposing XRs protests naturally arguments just like everywhere else, childish low-conscious stuff, nothing new. Although there seems to be this one argument I wish to have some clarity on. They basically say that even if Finland managed to become carbon neutral, this would have no effect whatsoever on a global scale. Finland has such a low population number and carbon footprint compared to the "big ones": China, US, Russia and such. So they say it's a useless goal. I get their argument, and I see some truth there, but here are my thoughts: first of all, this is self-deception. Such thoughts are just shoving the responsibility for someone else, out of sight. "It's not me, it's YOU!" , forgetting the "us-ness" of the situation. And secondly, I think that even though our carbon neutrality would have a miniscule effect, I would find it smart for Finland to be one of those countries who figures out how to do it, how to effectively and smartly achieve carbon neutrality, so that the big ones might learn something from us. What and how & how not. IMO this would be a beautiful vision for Finland. What do you guys think about this? Do you think it would be smart for us to start pushing for carbon neutrality? Is this a smart vision, or a stupid one?

Perhaps this basically already is the case. Maybe always has been. The actual 'system' of worldwide government, the 'physical action' so to speak may not be, but the unified consciousness is. The smaller holons are there, and it's ingrained in them to seek for / build a greater holon, and even greater after that. It's in our collective unconscious, written in our DNA one could say. The 'worldwide government' could be thought as a line, or a direction of the development of the mankind. See how similiar we all are? Like literally, same kind of values, same kinds of ideas, same kinds of gods, same developmental stages... We are already internally governed. @Leo Gura how you like my thoughts? Am I onto something?

@Nahm ?? Much appreciated

Thank you much ?

If everything in fact would be mind-stuff, what experience would these thoughts create? If everything were mind-stuff, would these thoughts hold any validity whatsoever?

Where have you gotten this idea that materialism has any legitimacy to it whatsoever, that there is any point trying to disprove it, as if there was any debate on the matter in the first place? Perhaps try to explain "materialism" and then this "idealism" as simply as possible. Write down exactly what you think they mean. Leave nothing out. Deconstruct both. Make them a bunch of thoughts with no actual basis whatsoever. Have you read Jed McKenna's Theory of Everything?

Absolutely nothing. Quite contrary, actually. That was my whole point.

Just look how you truly feel about it. Recognize the possibility that there is nothing bad, shallow, ugly, dirty or shameful about casual sex whatsoever. Why would you ever choose to view something as beautiful and fun as sex between consenting adults as something to feel bad or restricted about? You really think that this is your own values and feelings, or something you have just innocently adopted when growing up? Why even think about it at all? Why is this a problem? Why did you write this post? I bet you got a feeling in the gut about this. You know that something is off and you are looking for what feels right.

Got 'em right in front of me. This is going to be an interesting summer.

In direct experience, if you really look deeply and try to find "a thought" or "a mind", there is really nothing there, right? I always thought that imagination would be like a mind-thing. But what if the mind is imaginary? Holy shit guys. Get what I mean? The mind, or thoughts, are just an appearance. But it really is not "there". Imagination is not grounded in the mind. The mind is being imagined. O_O

@Mu_ We had a conversation in this thread right? It seems to have dissappeared. Am I going crazy?

I mean that there is literally no thoughts arising in actuality. It just seems like there is. Can't explain how it's possible. I kind of just sense/am it.

Me too. Considering all thoughts and the mind are in actuality "not there", and imagination is groundless, there is really Nothing left.