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Isn't there heavy protests going on all around the authoritarian far east? I heard there is serious movement in at least three countries. One I think was Myanmar but the military has locked down internet so there is only a little info leaking out. I got a gut feeling that there might be a stage Orange revolution coming soon in the far east, China and such.

By the way, I've found the term "imagination" a bit better than "delusion". I understand why some may want to call it delusion, but "imagination" has more of that sweet freedom.

Dude yes!!! Amen. Even the idea that there is a you writing this post and coming up with this insight is imaginary. There is no "your thoughts" or "your perception". And just to give a little push... Feeling is the guide in this immaterial existence. There is no guilt in choosing the perspective which feels better, but TRUTH!

https://tuulasaarela.com/tuula-saarela/ She is really good. I have transpersonal therapy sessions with her.

@The0Self Damn. Thank you!!!

I'm sure he has said these kind of things. Of course, anyone with even a little bit of brain would understand those things. I think the problem is that he is not taking this collective side as a serious part of his teaching/philosophy. He doesn't seem to realize the depth of the subject. Compare JP with Leo or Ken Wilber. Leo and Wilber both stress the importance of the collective part in their thinking way more than JP. They don't just mention it, it's a serious part of their philosophy. Balancing the collective and the individual is literally one of the most central themes of Wilbers work. And this is why: What exactly is this "individual"? What is an individual without collective? How does an individual even become "an individual" in the first place? What made you the individual you think you are? How did you even learn that you are an individual human being in the first place? The thing is... The collective and the individual are not separate. They are unified. These are interconnected in such a way that it is literally impossible to separate them without a fatal misunderstanding. What you mean by "an individual" and "individual responsibility" is a social construct. Yet, society is built of individuals. Or is it? This right here is what I believe Leo and Wilber understand, and JP does not. That's why JP is an individualist and resonates with such a large right-wing audience.

@Tarzan Thanks!! Yeah I figured that I'm not going to push myself too much. I'll practice when it feels right and good.

@Bazooka Jesus This is how I do it: Sit with a straight spine. Learn ocean breath (make whizzing a sound using muscles in your throat as if you were Darth Vader). Keep the mouth shut. Breathing in quite slowly and deeply from the stomach, visualize/feel energy rising up along the center of the spine from the root chakra to the center of the head (third eye). Breathing out, visualize/feel the energy coming down back to the root. The energy should move up and down with the same speed as it takes you to breathe in and out. Remember the ocean breath thing. I do this for 10 minutes. After you're done, it's good to keep sitting and breathing normally for a while. You wil feel a lot more relaxed, focused and mindful. More info here: https://realyoga.info/2018/08/kriya-pranayama/ If you want more detail, check out Leo's book list.

Believe it or not, I actually agree with both of you. There is no external "goal" of a blissful state. It's about recognizing the bliss that's already available.

Same. Heaven sounds good to me. Got nothing better to do.

Sometimes I see glimpses what death may be like. By intuitively feeling into it, this is what I would say: 1. First, mind "leaves" the body, or rather body is recognized as a part of the mind. 2. A stage of astral projection/lucid state, where you can move through space and time etc. by thought. Mind begins to merge with everything. Step by step to complete lucidity. Waking up. 3. Whatever you most desire.

This might have something to do with spiral development. For me it seems kind of natural that stage Blue would be a lot more socially "warm" than Orange. I come from Finland and we are kind of known for being super "cold" and introverted. I'm always shocked when I travel because people can be so much more talkative and expressive in social situations. Sometimes it's funny when some migrants might talk and express super loudly in a bus or a train and all the finnish people are just sitting dead silent.

Here's a thought: You are looking at Nahm's word through thought, whereas Nahm's word is the perspective of feeling. In thought, there is this and that, good feeling and bad feeling, and a fuckton of confusion. In feeling, there is really no this and that, good and bad. Don't think it, but feel into it. That right there, is the key. In feeling, there is only 'directness'. Here Love and God cannot get more direct and simple for you. Go and read all the books. Go and watch every Leo's video and philosohize day and night. You won't get far thinking. But when it is felt, you open.

I think it's the belief (I'm not feeling) that is hiding the feeling itself. Rather than trying to heal something, rather than trying to deal with some past experience, maybe it would be better to start from simply focusing on feeling good. Is there anything that makes you feel better? Maybe listening to music, taking a walk, enjoying a good meal...?

I feel like I want to make my world bigger. I've been realizing how 'small' my world is. I've been focusing on this world from a really small scale, from a small perspective of the planet. It's weird how you people on this forum are living all around the planet, but you don't really 'get it' through a screen. I'd like to bring some of that to my awareness. Where is your home? If you want, you can link a wikipedia page of your hometown or share a picture from where you live. Would be also cool to hear about your culture and your estimates on spiral development of your social enviroment. And by the way, thank you @Preety_India and @Mesopotamian , you made me see how different our living conditions and life experience can be.

I've also had a psychotic episode / spiritual emergency. Spent a little while in psych ward, took antipsychotics. I understand what you mean by the pills making you feel disconnected. That's kind of the point of antipsychotics. They were helpful for me, but I didn't take them for a long time. I would advice you not to take any psychedelics. You feel your body resisting it for a good reason. This is a time to relax. Pay attention on how you feel, rather than how you think your state of awareness/consciousness is. You got time.

@Mesopotamian This is my hometown: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oulu From my experience, spiral development is centered around Green and late Orange here. Both in quite healthy manner. Blue is also mostly healthy. For example, most curches are a mix of Blue and Green.

I wouldn't call it "great awakening", and it has nothing to do with external projected ego. But there are shifts happening in the perspectives in the collective part. Especially in the last few weeks. Covid is loved and accepted. Taliban is loved and accepted. You may not see it on social media, but you can sense it.

I had a great experience today. A few hours ago I was out, walking. I was listening to Michael Jackson. It was dark and beautiful outside. I started thinking about the pedophilia allegations. Rather than feeling disgusted, angry or fearful, I felt great love and compassion for him. Whether those allegations are true or not, whether Michael Jackson was really a pedophile or not, whether he actually raped children or not, I still accepted it. I dissolved into his music, saw the great inspiration and beauty of it. I loved and accepted him as he was. I accepted pedophilia. I felt such powerful love radiating from my heart all around me. I loved every pedophile in the world. I accepted them as they are. I fell in love with all of it. The weirdest thing was that I also accepted and loved my own pedophilia. Even though I'm not a pedophile! Hard to explain. I accepted it as a part of myself. It was like my mind did not understand that I am one with all, but my heart did. Right after, I looked up to the sky and saw green aurora borealis shining, as if they were radiating the same love. Damn.

@Endangered-EGO You misunderstood it. Of course Of course "Endangered ego"

This right here is the unconsciousness and delusion of conservative worldview we speak of. You see the "western culture" as objectively superior because you are looking at things from the perspective of "western culture". Of course. How could it be otherwise? Don't you see how obviously biased your worldview is? Actualized.org is actively dismantling exactly these kinds of delusions. So it's obvious why you don't like the way things are done here.

"Whatever you imagine."

So many people refer to vibration. "The universe is vibration, we are vibrational beings, we can raise our vibration" etc. I understand that for example sound and light are vibrations, in a physical materialist context. But I do not understand why for example, my direct awareness appearing as colour, sound, emotion or thought is often called vibration, as these things don't seem to be happening in a space where a thing could vibrate. Get what I mean? It seems that in this context vibration must mean something else than a certain type of movement. I don't sense anything I would call "movement" or "vibration" when I experience a thought or an emotion. This is especially clear when someone says "the universe is vibration", because then space and time would be the vibration itself. So what exactly is meant by vibration?

I'm pretty sure that there was either some advanced technology or highly evolved beings. They are just way too massive and geometrically accurate. The idea that they were built as tombs for leaders is also kind of silly. To build something like that, with or without advanced technology, would require some serious inspiration. I'm talking something divine. Imagine for a moment what it would take today even to get enough people to agree that something like that would be worth the time and energy. And then actually manage to get it done.

@Goldzilla @AndylizedAAY @The0Self @hamedsf @Nahm You guys misunderstood what I was asking. I get that the 'state of being' or 'emotion' is called vibration, but what exactly is that vibration? Why are they not just called 'state of being' or 'emotion' then? /\/\/\/\/\ <---- what is the "up" and the "down"? If that right there was a feeling of anger, what would that vibration be 'made of'?