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  1. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    9 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

    Palestine has also right to defend itself.

    Raping, butching, kidnap, killing babies, burn babies, killing children in their beds... sounds to you as a self deffense?

    9 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

    However if you want to be objective such massacres are very common in wars.

    Do you have a better way to deal with 40,000 terrorist parasite viruses hiding behind healthy cells  as their only possible strategy to survive and reproduce?

    9 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

    And if you want to talk hostages, Israel has thousands of childreen and women in prisons which has arbritary arrested and imprisoned under inhumane conditions for things as silly as throwing stones at soldiers. Again, when 200 Israelis get taken hostage you loose your shit when Israel has taken 20x more through the years in West Bank.

    Do you think the fear of being killed in captive in any moment is really comparable to being prisoned in surely much better conditions with no life threat at all? I don't like Israel arrests children from time to time but It is really a serious comparison between the cases?

    9 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

    especially considering you are the aggressors in the first place

    How did Italy get formed? In a clean way?

    How did Greece get formed if not by some sort of war when one side was probably more dominant than the other?

    How did France? Cyprus? Egypt? USA? England?

    Do you know a country that didn't get formed through occupation? 

    9 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

    In the eyes of most of the world Israel started this by colonizing the native population living there. If they knew their place and stayed within the UN borders this would be a different situation. How come Palestinians are pushed all the way to Gaza? You realize most of its population are refugees created by Israel. And Israel is the victim? The current border of Israel is way bigger than the UN agreed border of 1947. ALL of that land difference is pure theft.

    The Jews agreed to UN plan but the Arabs didn't and started the war and almost won, until the Jews decided to change their strategy from mainly deffense to attack. 

  2. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    11 hours ago, Lila9 said:

    I agree, it's difficult to see so many bs spread around about Israel from people who have never spend a day in their lives here and don't know where Israel is on the map.

    This is just amazing .

    11 hours ago, Lila9 said:

    I have a female Christian Arab friend who is married to a Jewish man. I have a Jewish female friend who is married to a Christian Arab man. They celebrate both Christian and Jewish holidays.

    They have hanukkah and christmas at the same month?? Dreamyy 🎄🎁

    11 hours ago, Lila9 said:

    I have religious and non religious female Muslim friends who I've learned a lot from and I know a bit Arabic thanks to them. I taught them some Russian, they love the Russian language.

    You are the most multicultural family and friends I have heard like really.

    11 hours ago, Lila9 said:

    I have the sweetest Muslim religious friend, Muna, (who I can talk about forever) which wanted her husband to take her, me and her daughter to Jenin (In the West Bank as you know) to do shopping because everything is much cheaper there than in Israel. But her husband was concerned about my safety there and he honestly said that maybe it's not a good idea for me to be there as it puts me at risk because I'm Jewish. 

    understandable.

    11 hours ago, Lila9 said:

    I can keep and tell about my life in Israel, about the colorfulness, the warmth of people here, the diversity in cultures and sub cultures, the love of animals, the humor, and my experience from everyone and every city here, I can talk about the things people don't hear in the mainstream media all the pros and cons, but it's going to be soooo long. So I would stop here.

    Me too.

    11 hours ago, Lila9 said:

    This is my very reality, that's why I find it laughble when people say Israel is an Apartheid.

    🤣🤣😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️

    11 hours ago, Lila9 said:

    Most of the Arabs I know take the Israeli side and feel angry and sad when there are news about some terror attacks done by Hamas.

    True I know that too.

    11 hours ago, Lila9 said:

    Because Hamas doesn't discriminate between Israeli Arabs and Jews, Hamas have killed and kidnapped Israeli Arabs as well, that's why some of the Israeli Arabs serve in the army, because they understand that we are all in the same danger.

    Absolutely.

    11 hours ago, Lila9 said:

    I personally know a few people who were killed by terror attacks, one of them was a boy from my class who was stabbed to death in a bus, during his sleep by a young Palestinian from the WB, this was a bus that I used very often at that time.

    Sorry to hear how did it affected you?

    Just an hour ago I heard that a guy I know from age 8 (was one grade above me) was killed in Gaza operation. Shocking.

  5. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @Karmadhi Not going to respond to the second toxic laughable link. An attempt to draw symmetry between barbaric dark medieval organization and a self deffense operation cannot be taken seriously.

    About the first one I admit there are very likely problems in the surgicality claims that although I believe IDF is the maybe most surgical army in the world, is still not really totally surgical and sometimes attacks too loosely.

    In the other hand, we have to ask ourselves honestly if we could really do a more surgical war when needed to eliminate a terror organization that hides so manipulatively behind civilians as its number one survival strategy when we have tens of thousands of terror targets to attack! Not sure if we really could do it otherwise. Just think about that for yourself!

    @Lila9 I want to read once again what you wrote and to respond tommorow in length. I must go to sleep right now I really tired.

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    1 hour ago, Lila9 said:

    Usually I don't feel comfortable to say where I am from because I'm a private person in general and I try to keep this is vague as possible.

    I can really understand. All good.

    1 hour ago, Lila9 said:

    But since you are asking me directly and I can't lie to you, I'm actually an Israeli, live in Israel, I served in the Israeli army a few years ago and I still can vividly remember the 2006 Lebanon war when I was a child and Hezbollah bombed us.

    This is why I so passionate about the subject, because I speak from my perspective as an Israeli, same as you are. 

    From the name I guess you are an Israeli arab?

    And nice to hear.

    I am also Israeli from birth. This is so amazing to see how much differently Israel society is grasped abroad than the reality I live in here. not gonna lie too this is not easy.

  8. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    16 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

    There was a common post on social media with a photo of an Israeli soldier talking to an elderly Palestinian man and another photo of his dead body claiming according to Hamas that the Israeli solider shoot him right after the photo was taken (even though the shirt on his dead body was different from the shirt shown on the photo with the solider).

    This man was killed by Hamas a day or two after the photo with the solider was taken. He was killed because of his innocent convo with the Israeli solider (which probably asked him how he is etc) was interpreted by Hamas as "cooperation with Israel". It seems pretty dangerous to either say something wrong about Hamas and looking friendly with Israeli soliders. 

    Omg

    They lie as often as they breath.

    Their propaganda is anything but innocent.

    But Israel is too far behind in its ability to fill the gap and exposing those lies. This is frustrating.

    I edited the message before you saw it 😶‍🌫️ I asked from where are you?

  9. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    1 hour ago, Lila9 said:

    It's funny that when IDF are symbolically burning candies they are "the most evil in the world" but when Hamas raping women, beheading babies, burning people alive, they are freedom fighters, defending themselves and doing legitimate act of resistance.

    This level of hypocrisy... 🙄

    Is beyond my understanding.

    I hope this elderly woman in the article you shared will not find herself dead by some Hamas terrorist because she "cooperated with Israel". I hope Hamas wouldn't put their hands on her.

    They have no heart or mercy.

     

     

    I think the women won't be punished because of the fairly naive situation.

    But yes this is a problem Gazans face and they are so scared to tell authentic feeling against hamas especially in public, but there are such voices in the last days starting to appear.

    @Lila9 From where are you?

    Happy 4th candle🕯

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  10. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    2 hours ago, Lila9 said:

    Lol they burn the candies supply which was given by Gaza citizens to the Hamas terrorists on October 7 attack.

    Gaza citizens celebrated the massacre of Israeli people with those candies. The IDF soldiers burn those candies as a symbol of fighting against the terror. 

    The amount of misinformation and the distortion of the truth on social media is fascinating.

     

    Oh I didn't realize its actually candies for terror attack celebrations! 🍡🍬🧨🚀🔥

    What an immoral soldiers 😒😄

    No this is so bad I must balanced it out with some good news....

     

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  11. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @zazen You are creating toxic and dangerous symmetry betweem both sides which has nothing to do with the truth.

    I can admit many problems Israel has and need to take responisibility to, but I can't agree to participate in a symmetry game.

    A serious discussion cannot be done by a cherry picking stratrgy of extremist claims creating a fake map of symmetry between an uttely cruel side who honor death in its essense ("Shuhada"/"Shaid") and way of life and education, and a side who honor life.

    And if you think its a childish cliche, ask the Gazans activists who appeal to hamas and they will proudly say to you the exact same thing. This is real even if hard to believe.

  15. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    42 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

    Lol, their perception is indeed comes from ignorance and lack of real life experience of the conflict. All the info they gather is from biased X accounts. Intresting.

    I would never dare to demonize an entire society without even visiting there and hearing its people firsthand, not to cherry pick some Rabi or an extreme leftist. This is just a matrix of stories and images in the mind of the demonizer without knowing how far it is from reality. 

  17. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @zazen Don't run from constructive critisism and return it back onto me even if it sounds a bit edgy to you, and rather confront the claims directly. The explanation about the virus vs bacteria sounds serious in your opinion?

    Insisting hamas are "people" and "not a virus" is a symptom to a bigger problem here. Thats because of the need one feels to deffend hamas terrorists even if done only through teminology this is very problematic.

    I am not saying you did that and maybe I had to respond directly to the one who did it and anyway there is nothing personal here.

    Camp david message is quite long I will answer to this. Netanyahu is also to blame in the fact he have let hamas get stronger as a purpose strategy to avoid negotiation with the palestinian authority.

  18. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    3 hours ago, Lila9 said:

    Lol these terrorists have butchered innocent men, women elderly and children, they have committed great atricorcy. Fat privileged and wealthy Hamas terrorists.

    Not only that, they also steal humanitarian aid from the Palestinians of Gaza and sell it in high prices. All the money and aid comes to Gaza ends in their greedy hands.

    People here cannot even agree when I call hamas a "virus". They insist they are people! Thats what important right now in their eyes.

    So you expect them to admit a truth in a five sentences length explanation? A waste of time.

  20. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    44 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

    Not only that, they also steal humanitarian aid from the Palestinians of Gaza and sell it in high prices. All the money and aid comes to Gaza ends in their greedy hands.

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0dxnZBIga7/?igshid=ZWI2YzEzYmMxYg==

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0jfi3GIuQD/?igshid=ZWI2YzEzYmMxYg==

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0kZgZEIaCJ/?igshid=ZWI2YzEzYmMxYg==

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0oqhGHI1TX/?igshid=ZWI2YzEzYmMxYg==

     

    Exactly. And they are complaining we want to put an end to hamas while sitting in their (yet) safe home at the foot of the mountain from which they just moralize and throw instructions to Israel and to the 20 yo half-kids who are risking their lives right now. How low of a behaviour and how low self awareness.

  22. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    40 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

    @Nivsch

       HAMAs is a virus now, not people? Okay, say HAMAs gets eliminated, does this stop Israel taking lands from Palestinians?

    Israel has responsibility to stop expanding the settlements, to declare on this officially from a position of strength after won the war in Gaza, and to initiate an agreement with the palestinians on an independent state for them surrounded by a security belt of 10-20 km depth with IDF forces in it, and see if they will want to negotiate or still be a serial peace refusal.

  23. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    14 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

    @Lila9

       Say HAMAs did that, released hostages, honored the ceasefire, will Israel stop? Will Israel stop expanding into Palestinian territory? Into West Bank and Gazs? Will Israel get rid of the alt right Zionists leading Israel?

    Won't stop the war because the virus must be eliminated if you want any hope and future for Gazans without a tyrranic brainwashing cult controlling them.

  25. Posted

    30 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

    You probably don't care about Palestinian children. If you did, you would have wanted Hamas to be eliminated and replaced with good and conscious leadership that could build a haven for these children, a modern and democratic Palestine with human rights, women's rights, and LGBTQ rights. Currently, a Palestinian can be executed in the blink of an eye for being gay or wearing short pants if she's a woman. A Palestinian can face execution for criticizing Hamas or not following Sharia law. Is that the type of society you wish for the Palestinians?

    This 'open air prison' wouldn't be a prison if it weren't dangerous for Israel. Israel has the right to put boundaries between them and those who want to harm them. All they need to do is to stop the terror against Israel and all the bounderies would be diminished, no checkpoints in every corner are included. This is that simple.

    If Hamas truly and really wants a ceasefire, they should start by bringing back all the hostages and not breaking the ceasefire, as they did recently. They are not serious.

    Exactly.