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@Ineedanswers I am not sure if i am right but maybe you are compulsive about this issue? Is this issue of solipsism bothers/scares you?

If you enjoy thinking that so go for it. The distance between "no seperation we are infinitely together" and between "I am alone" is very small and thats why everyone can very easily choose the version they wants to be true! It is far many light years from an objective decision. Personally I believe only in the together version.

The only thing that matters is what you think. You can debate, you can try to learn from people but only you will do the final fine tuning and decide for yourself what is the truth. Even psychedelics cant reveal it to you, but only to help. The fact is that everyone will interprate a little different what meditation/yoga/psychedelics/other shows to them.

@Ineedanswers What do YOU want to be true? Do you have some fear of the solipsism?

@Someone here Right. But from there going to a notion like "you are alone" this is a one big step too much.

@Null Simplex But you still want to share it to us and you have invested a long message with intention to explain it to us. This is not by accident. Something in your subconscious does not agree with the solipsistic attitude. Listen also to him and integrate him too. This is very important. Listening to your subconscious messages is more profound than psychedelics.

Cool. So trust yourself your answers are always have to be the #1 in importance to you.

@Mason Riggle but it doesnt matter to you if you are alone in the universe or not? Doesnt it practically speaking very different?

Thats why it is very easy to latch on this idea if you want it to be true.

I think it is (the solipsism) still only a stage of consciousness, or a yellow/turquoise's one of its excesses, or a perspective which is a grain of/partial truth, but ok everyone will think what he wants.

@Inliytened1 ok but the result is the same - you are the only one who has experience/feelings/thoughts etc. No? I dont think its true but I want to understand better the inplicit expression of these statements as far as it possible.

Do you think that the truth is the solipsism in its "naive" version (the first thing we think/read in the internet/wiki when we hear about this notion) that you are literally alone and nobody else has experience beside you InIiytened1, OR that is something a bit different and a bit more nuanced that just can't be communicated?

?? But everyone choose the side of the equation they more appeal to!

Dream is always relative to the next stage. So you are right but partially.

EVERY stage FEELS he has the absolute! and it feels SO REAL and so complete every time. There is always another stage behind the corner that will, a least partially, contradict what you think right now. And of course you will deny this is a stage becasue it happens every time.

Not true because SD IS a part of reality because non dual includes also dualities and relative truts which is As real as the absolute!

Because you claim to have the absolute truth. That you can teach me this and so on. There is nothing different here from a subconscious stage blue backlash whitin the mind of yellow-turquoise consciousness.

Sounds like a stage blue statement to me. Too rigid and not open. "You must", "You deluded", "one and only"...

This is an emotional ideology.

@Spiral Wizard So the solipsism (grasped as the absolute) eventually destroying itself in a circle, doesnt it?

@Vynce That doesnt change anything I wrote above. Again everyone will reach a little different conclusion influenced (also) by his desires ? Have a good luck.

@Vynce Yes but the desire affects the fine tuning of the picture after the experience. There is no way to be fully objective. This doesnt reduce anything from what you had of course and doesnt contradict your consciousness degree which is relatively high. But the distance between "we are all one and infinitely together in this" and "I am the only one and imagine all others" in the matter of direct experience tends to be almost zero, and your emotions will make you want to believe and emphsize only one of them, even though the practical difference between the two is very large. I personally think that everybody have their own experience but in the absolute we all merge to one giant organism (the 'together' version). Even science knows this theoretically but cant really understand and see its significance.

Do you like the realization? Did you want to realize this thing before you reached it?

@Vynce Did psychedelics (mainly) made you conclude this or your own meditation/spiritual practices?

You creates all your ideas about other people and also the seperation between 'you' and 'others'. You are not creating their raw existance.