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But in the relative world, you as a human have sensation AND ALSO your mother has its own. No? What do you think?

But to be fair you are also imagining that you are imagining.

Way more. In my opinion this is still a stage of consciousness / an excess of yellow or turquoise. If solipsism was the final stage it was very sad. Fortunately its not. This is not only about getting clearer but about to discover that the previous stage was only partially true.

@Someone here 1. What new question can I formulate and contemplate right now? 2. Can I trust more a realization from one method or one psychedelic and put it as more important than another psychedelic/method realization? 3. Is a psychedelic/method x perspective of reality more important than the sober/naive state perspective of reality? 4. Does a contemplation about something when I take a psychedelic helps my potential realization or distorts it? 5. Is imagination equal to reality? 6. What is the different between reality and a dream? 7. Can be degrees and levels of real-ness to reality and/or dreams? 8. What claim(s) can I have which contradicts solipsism? 9. What claim(s) can I have which contradicts that reality is "real"?

@spinderella First of all I have not experienced this substance so I just can learn from you But I want to stress a point from outside: How can you trust ONE kind of substance to reveal for you the REALITY? The most you can say is that this is a PERSPECTIVE. A valid perspective and very interesting. But still one facet of the truth. Another substance Y will wire your brain in a way Y and then you will recieve a scenario Y. Do you understand what I mean? Maybe another substance/experience from another method will say something a bit different. And then, when you build the reality model in your psyche it will have to include the 2 scenarios even if they contradict each other, and also this is still a perspective. And so on.

@Someone here I also feel attacked when someone states this solipsism as absolute truth even if his (your, in this example) intention are pure. I also didnt meant to attack you. Just this topic is very hard emotionally to many people and probably easier to other people. I think its like left and right in politics and every camp wants reality to be some way and take his experience and build on it a fixed pov (like solipsism) which is not, in my opinion, what reality is. But anyway every one is free to think what he wants.

This is a half-baked realization and the evidence of it is its internal self-contradiction that says that your pov is the only one but that also its not the only one. Thats what YOU say. not me. I am listening to myself in my spiritual journey and not to any emotionaly biased ideology of any kind.

What you say here is that we are all infinitly together and collapsed to one. That is something I can agree with. No that "others dont have their own experience" what i can't agree. Please see that the decision to imprint the ONENESS experience into "aloneness" words is an emotional and psychological decision, which will distort what it is. Actually the together-ness version is the more pure one. Why dont keep it this way?

+1 ? Its a circular logic. Just like what religion and science do too.

Panic attack is also something you feel its SO real but this doesnt make its content true.

But above you said: "Yes .but it's even more radical than that. The same is true from your pov as well."

+1 ?

Did you take psychedelics before and if you did what kind? Did psychedelics help you along the way to realize that or only watching the videos?

Your imagening them as not the true them because you wear an mental image on them which is approximation and never them, because they are like nothingness in the way that an ever changing form is. But i dont agree they dont feel sensations too.

I understand that your family member x is mostly in your imagination in the way that you invented an image about his/her which is not the infinite always changing true his/her. But i cant agree he/she doesnt feel suffering or happiness too. Maybe there is no seperation between you and him/her because you are all one connected unit (dererminism throught science or direct experience of this through higher stages of awakening). But there is a feeling of suffering in another cordinates which you (or "you") are not experience.

What made you to realize this (the solipsism)? Psychedelics? Meditation? Something else?

But they dont want to explain. Just to drop it on you and deal with that "you are alone". It is a ego game. Building a bridge to make you understand is not their interest.

Like your intepretation. Much more makes sense. Much less dark.

@Naol I think that your mind/brain shows you that you are missing some things and that you have got spiritually partially wrong. Spirituality is about listening to your OWN comfortable and uncomfortable messages and grow from them. Is this what you have done? Can you try to discover what the negative thoughts you have right now, want you to realize and re-calculate your path?

Why did you want to discover that solipsism is true?

@Someone here When have the solipsism became the symbol for ultimate awakening? ? Is this the new fashion? What a cute trend. My question to you is - why did you open this thread and share your awakening to us, if you think we are not exist?

Exactly. Can it be that the spritiual ego get stuck on solipsism and doesnt see its full circularity back into reality?

@Ineedanswers You can't trust only the psychedelic's state but you must also take into account the sober state which is not less important and it is also "psychedelic" (neurotransmitors). You have to integrate both together, and add upon them your subconscious position which is actually the most important and the most challenging to discover.

@Ineedanswers ❤

Ok ?