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Due to their stage on the spiral.

Tell me more about the "symmetry" between Israelis and Palestinians. "Palestinians can go freely to the Israeli side, but if Israelis go to the other side they will die." A canadian journalist about her visit in Israel (2014). https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy-vLBOta1P/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

@Karmadhi I understand you. He is an extremist like Ben Gvir and Betzal'el 😶‍🌫️ But hamas are nazis. These extremist politicians are underdeveloped but still not to the same extent. They wouldnt kill in their own hands.

Something that probably would never be happen without invasion. Great to hear. A sliver of light in the darkness.

hamas tries now to show a video of 3 freed kidnappeds to play its toxic psychological manipulation. Good for Israel that didn't fall to this trap and didn't broadcasted this. Also good to know that helicopters are flying all the time above the israelis soldiers in gaza to guard them against terorrist.Israel do it very slowely and carefully and this is good.

Colonization - where do you think Israelis should not live? Loss of lands - What in your opinion the Jews should do differently in Israel establishment in 1948? Nakba - This is a big word. Please break it down. Uncountable number of massacres - you will have to break it down too. Bombing civilians - Do you agree on the statement that Israel really try to target only terroriats and that the terrorists use civilians as human shield all the time? Apharteid - How is this gets along with the fact that we have Arab doctors in israel, Arab judges in Israel, Arab journalists, Arab scientists, Arab knesset members...?

@Tobia I am also dont like the idea of Isolated settlements. Do you think Israelis should not live in the west bank at all?

Please give some examples that disturb you the most.

@Merkabah Star I really think you are confused becaused I used this word in this thread only one time and it was yesterday.

No i didn't lol. Who are you? Nice to meet.

Don't take it personally. Maybe I was wrong. I donk know you. I am taking it back. It is very hard to deal with injustice Israel is going through now and I feel part of that.

Trigger warning. Very hard to listen. Only If you want to understand the full brutality of hamas 🕸🌋🦇🏰 listen to this. The video in the link below. Think carefully if you want that. And if you are sure then open it. Peace isn't possible without defeating hamas first. 1 2 3 4 5 https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy-6_hLtmNu/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

You are underestimate the intelligence of identity even national to one's healthy emotional development. Yes, the identity that YOU yourself will create independently of your culture is the most important one, but everyone has to start from something and want to feel part of something bigger than them that they contribute to and have influence on.

@Twentyfirst Your suggestion really can be seen as an innocent and that comes from good intention. But in the other hand it is clear that you are emotionally very biased towards the palestinians and don't take Israelis emotions seriously.

@Twentyfirst Israelis are also alive and have their home from childhood. If you choose to speak so practically then do it fully.

@Twentyfirst Because Jews have deep historical and emotional connection to this land from thousands of years ago.

Oh.... 🤔 So the occupation of the West Bank is not the real problem. But the occupation of Tel Aviv is. Thank you. Now I know that Israel is wrong because it exists.

Its Ben Gvir and Betzal'el. This government is unresposible and there is not much we can do right now. Now you cannot expect any Israeli to say anything like that for the next few months. Israelis are traumatized right now similarly to what happened to americans in 2001 and everyone is just thinking how to be protected and thats it. Of course if something very serious will happen and settlers will kill innocent paleatinians our politicians in the opposition (but not only) will speak against it and also more Israelis, as happened in the past.

RED-blue most of them. In west bank they are more diverse from red, blue to less orange and some green especially millenials and z-gen.

@Leo Gura I understand they are in a difference place in their mentality (stage red) but maybe thats exactly why no matter what Israel do, they will interpret it as a weakness.

They could use all the millions $ they recieved from qatar (with israeli permissom) and the money the gazaish people gained from work in Israel (also with Israeli permission) and invest it to become singapore.

Personally I have no problem with stopping the expansion. Do you mean also to evacuate all the isolated settlements? Because this is almost unrealistic to evacuate 100,000+ people. And what about IDF presence in the west bank? After what happend, I fear that If IDF will leave the west bank, it might be too dangerous long term for the Israeli citiziens. The west bank border is huge and we doesnt have enough force to defende it properly, and we have seen the value of technology when 1000 terrorists are trying to get in.

The question is what we can do differently that will help? Because we got brutal terror attacks anyway, when we went fully forward them and when we didn't.

I agree with this. And in the other hand, when we did the opposite and tried really hard to negotiate with them, also then, the answer from them was even more terror, especially during the decade after Oslo agreement in 1994, which resulted in more than 1000 murdered here, and all that without Netanyahu's help.

By decades long policy do you mean the occupation of the west bank? But didn't the evacuation from gaza in 2005 was the best gesture Israel could do for the paleastinians there? Why did the palestinians rejected all the proposals and agreements from Israel to retreat to 67' lines during 90's and 00's? Can it be a reasonable option that, maybe, the occupation of just ISRAEL in 48' is really enough to fuel the palestinian resistance and terror?