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Everything posted by Nivsch
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Yes, the bottom line is that no side is totally innocent, neither in the past nor today, BUT there is one side who is far-far more problematic and this is not Israel.
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And went viral, also again
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+1 ❤
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Brilliant!
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A great illustration to show anybody who will again say how only the palestinians were "kicked out". But even then, that won't convince him because the argument is a spiral dynamics war and not logical.
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@hundreth Maybe also all the other nations know from experience that palestinians give hell to anywhere they go to. Why Egypt is so afraid to let Gazaians in? They know even better than the Israelis.
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There is no doubt in my opinion that the obssession on Israel is not really because of occupation of this and that (only secondary) but the real reason is from the world of psychology, spirituality and spiral dynamics and there is more than just one simple reason. Part of the critism Israel gets is precisely because of the good place from where israel does what it does in a long term and big picture context point of view.
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🎯🏅 Thank you for this.
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Definitely a highly biased channel. Actually crazy. Not surprising. I remeber now how this channel was biased also in early 2000's during the 2nd Intifada when suicidal bombers exploded buses and restaurants in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv 1-2 times a week and sometimes even more, killing 1,100 Israelis during all this period.
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👍 All the attempts here to make even a clue of 1% of symmetry between Settlers and hamas are so absurd. 99% of the settlers aren't violent at all and cannot hurt physically anybody.
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@Hatfort Sorry to disappoint but all the bombing you talk about is mostly gone and now this is mainly a ground operation. hamas is also a big cause to the lack of food and water. Did you know hamas even took medicine equipment from hospitals and pain killers for itself? You think hamas is stupid and thats your problem. It is much more smart and psychologically manipulative than you think and you are falling prey to its hands. I am not saying Israel doesnt have to be more surgical and accurate in its actions but the western world is so naive and can't see we are dealing with a clever virus and not just a stupid suicidal animal.
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@PurpleTree https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy/1699796129-macron-tells-herzog-he-unequivocally-supports-israel-s-right-to-self-defense
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You are free to think and interpret this however you want.
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He took his words back (to some extent) the day after that and emphasized again his support for Israel. Calling to a ceasefire and doing so is Immoral as long as 239 hostages are held by hamas and the pressure on him is necessary, as long as we know that ceasefire will only make hamas in a better position tactically, and as long as local humanitarian breaks are already happen every day anyway. Conclusion: No ceasefire is justified.
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@Merkabah Star No. What I meant is that even though officialy there is equality (and there is) human beings are still human beings, and under the radar some discrimination can happen from time to time and there is probably some amount of that if we want to be realistic. Thats why this is not 100%.
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If they keep their attitude, it will get into them through the back door.
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They have democracy from birth and they got bord. They need now to integrate their red. Not anything rational, this is just stronger than them. Good luck for them to learn the hard way.
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Jews deserve one country to be theirs and to reflect and deffend their values. Muslims and christians are already have 200. Glad to help.
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Direct experience is important https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzgY0GLtVhV/?igshid=MXhnczJ2NHFla2lkYg==
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No this is crazy. Think what you want.
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This is like justifying nazi germany. The argument is pointless when someome does that. Just to move on to another topic where in a serious and mature debate is possible.
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Part of the world! But a big one.
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The reason why ONLY now the world is so noisy but not in other wars is precisly because Israel's relatively high values and consciousness. The real issue here is the great system resisting a growing up process trying to happen. All the rest - backward rationalizations.
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@Lila9 The more people resist, the better. This is the system pushed to a corner trying its best to go back to its familiar unhealthy homeostasis as it feels its foundations being shaken. The enormous resistance we see these days is the best indication to a good change just behind the corner. Growing up HURTS but this is how things work. Israel just have to keep going with a deep self trust. This is Israel's real test.
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All of that has been proven to be wrong in october 7th while before that you maybe would be right. Keep in mind that without bombing before, IDF would be sitting ducks in front of hamas fortifications prepared for IDF for years what would make hundreds of soldiers getting killed in Gaza by now.