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@Merkabah Star Al Jazeera wants Gazan children to stay under the cult of hamas forever.
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@Lila9 Yes I agree with you. Stage Red propaganda will always be more manipulative and more misleading.
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@Lila9 Of course they "need" them, to be their cards for a deal which will help them (hamas) to survive. I am not saying they can't show glimpses of humanity here and there, but this article doesn't indicates nothing like that, unless the reader wants so much to hear otherwise.
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@Lila9 What heartwarming news ๐
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+1๐งก Absolutely agree.
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"Palestinians need permission from Israel to enter the country" So to just let them in without security checks? "and often must pass through military checkpoints to move within the West Bank." Ok I understand but thats probably necessary because of the settlements. He could just say the settlements are problematic and must be stopped or something like this and this is a fair claim, but "appartheid state" is an hypocrite statement because it is too loose, generalized and open to interpretations in many directions.
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@zazen Palestinians in the west bank are under the responsibility of the PLO as their official civil authority, while in Gaza strip they are under hamas. IDF is found in wide forces within the west bank for security purposes since 2002, what proved to be the only way to stop the suicide bombing happened in busses and restaurants from ones to twice a week. I'm in the middle of the video of Daniel Levy but it sounds he suggests a return to 48' lines? Later he uses definitions and creates some sort of scheme or n not so clear equation from it, to moralize against the Jews moves in 1947-8 but he overlook the fact that they stemmed from a survival challenge they have faced after almost lost in a civil-like war between them and the Arabs reinforced by 6 Arabs countries. By the way the land occupied in 1967 was under Jordan. About Gaza he doesn't suggest any pratical alternative way to eliminate hamas besides moralizing.
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"Appartheid state"? How? Why can't 20 seconds of a single Al Jazeera's video pass without be sound like a kindergarden? Come on ๐ข๐ก
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It doesn't matter if their creation stemmed from authentic feelings and a desire to do good for the palestinians (maybe) but that they have devolved along the way into a self destructive disorder fueled fundamentaly by hate not only to Israel but also to itself.
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Not necessarily. See what happened after WW2 for example. We can't know exactly what it will bring. It depends very much on how the geopolitical window of opportunity will be utilized. Also such an extreme crisis can awaken part of the population. Deep down part of them know who is the real cause.
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@Merkabah Star The children of Gaza are brainwashed and posioned into jihad, shuada and killing by the cult of hamas and don't have a life or a chance of an healthy independent thinking anyway. Blame hamas on that. This war is their only chance to be free and to heal. No ceasefire until Gaza is clean from the virus.
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Of course its interesting to read. As long as some far right wing or a rabbi says something juicy against palestinians it is interesting to flood the thread with, and demonize Israel and demonize the incredibly brave half kids risking their life, barely sleeping risking their health too, to promote the release of the hostages that their suffering is 100 times more than any other citizen from any side of this war. But cherry picking is more important.
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Great video! Israeli soldier are normal human beings apparently! ๐ฉ๐ง It will be difficult for people here to see that. Need to add a viewing warning before. IDF take a break.
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@lina Even much less severe (but officialy confirmed) cases like the soldier who shot an already neutralized terrorist head in March 2016 has caused a tremendous public uproar in Israel which can show us how sensitive a big part of the Israeli public is. There is always a danger with taking isolated cases and project them on "Israel" as a whole when in fact they don't really represent Israel. Lets not forget there are thousands of soldiers operating in Gaza in every moment, and one such (and yes, outrageous, if indeed happened) case is a quite few statistically to conclude far reaching stances on Israel. Nevertheless, if this is true, those soldiers must be punished severily and the whole system have to learn from it and draw the lessons. But I want to see this comes from another source which is not UN that I would not be surprised if bases its assessments on UNRWA. After far reaching hypoctire moves the UN does against Israel every monday and thursday, it is clear this is quite naive to rely on UN statements alone about Israel without double checking them.
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Haha maybe ๐ค
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@Karmadhi How can you think about fairness to the other side when you have to save your life from him? Only if you are not a human.
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When you were almost been killed in a war initiated by 6 Arab countries, and now you try to push them back to ensure your survival, while within the country the war takes on a totally civil character between the Jews and the Arabs, you will obviously in this moments see all the arabs as a solid unit (without nuances) and won't always do the most efficient or moral or clean thing for example stealing of private lands. This is very understanble to me in this situation. A private or collective property of someone is a joke when you are just trying to stay alive.
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@Karmadhi Those lands been taken during a war the Arabs initiated, in which the Jews were even in an inferiority position and almost lost. but then, changed their attitude from mainly defence to mainly attack, and against most odds - survived. This is war, and both side have equal responsibility to the consequences and even more so the side who started it.
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It can only be good in security, medical emergency uses and maybe thats all. In everything else it is just childish and will do more harm than good.
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How Nikki Haley is doing?
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@Raze Yes, there is a problem here in the way the fire is, sometimes, used in a too loose way when children are being hurted or killed from that, what could be avoided quite easily and therefore cannot be justified by any explanation. It won't be fair to dismiss these cases as just a technical problem, but rather a symptom of a deeper general problem of moral development but mainly in some troop squads that lack this moral sense probably more than the average center of gravity of the culture. In every such a big army, to those specific sub groups of troops (which are maybe less moral than the average) to not be too-easy in their use of fire, the average of IDF were to be in tier two which is unrealistic today in any nation anyway. This in no way means the problem should not be addressed seriously within the IDF, but what it comes to say is, when pretending to take extreme cases and from them critisize an entire country, the critisim must be taken in a proper proportions and relative to realistic outcomes in a western world average context. Otherwise the critism will be misleading and hypocrite.
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@Danioover9000 Me sent you a mail? I didn't send you anything.
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1. What humanitarian crisis there is in the west bank? Beside the water quality problem. In gaza there is I agree. 2. "Israel expansionism to the greater Israel in the cost of palesitnians dying"? Who said the goal is to reach "greater Israel"? This is at most a projection of the podcaster. How does the settlememts expansion cause palestinians dying? This is only true when an extremist settler do its own deal but not a regular scenario. 3. Zionists want to genocide? This is also a projection in the mind of the podcaster. 4. The military action radicalize muslims - I agree with you. But what is the alternative? To get out of the west bank? 5. Israel's "ethnic cleansing in the borders"? How so? The threat near the border is by Radwan force which is 100% a terorrist group. 6. "appartheid"? Can you give an exmple?
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But without this army attendance in the west bank, 7.10 would be considered a tiny event. And why the tree behind him so early? He can't wait couple of more days? This is not fair I also want to celebrate this holiday.