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@Merkabah Star From what I remember I wasn't disturb you to upload posts you see as solid reality and not propaganda at all, so I think the best thing is that everyone will upload what they want and think is useful and important.

I Don't know. Of course there will be a dehumanization after 30 years of terror and civilians dancing to that with candies in the street. This is just an hypocricy becasue we all know any other western military would react the same (and I bet most likely more harsh), when only Israel is being checked with a magnifying glass for every detail for complex spiritual reasons that are not at all only the raw outcome in the field. Yes this went too far for sure, but this is the final explosion after 30 years of accumulated frustration and trauma and countless operations cost the country by hugh efforts and countless attempts to make peace negotiations and make Gazans more moderate with work permissios in Israel and all of that lead to even more terror.

@Raze I don't know how much it changes the proportions even after this article and again it depends greatly on your assumptioms of how flexible or rigid the policy in those kill zones is. We are human beings not machines. And also how many civilians really enter those zones. Even if hamas will have only 1000 terrorists left it will fight to survive and go in and out his relatively protected tunnel city.

@thenondualtankie I can make you to maybe change a bit your mind just from looking of what is going on in my country during last years and today that doesn't have yet term limits.

@Karmadhi I know you wish this was Israel's logic.

The 2 million Palestinians who live here in Israeli cities (20% of pop) are quite ok with us.

@zazen Thats why the ratio of killed is only 1 to 1.5. Because Israel kills so indiscriminantly due to the evil Lavender system! 🪴🫐

@Karmadhi 😂 The brain can invent whatever it want. From unrational anxiety scenarios to unrational beliefs about a hated nation. When Israel will drop an atomic bomb on someone I know that you will be the happiest person on earth.

@Karmadhi I cannot argue with your 100 steps forwarded interpretations and projections on Israel that aren't connected to reality as I see it.

The negotiation with hamas right now in the background and restricting aid is perhaps an attempt to put pressure on hamas to release the 134 hostages. Not that it is justified or efficient in my opinion. This Bibi-Bengvir government surely isn't the smartest nor the most moral. But this is a complex situation to be in.

It is problematic to look only on the killed numbers without the real context, because then Great Britian is the evil and dangerous ideologies like Nazism can grow and take over, be protected and get a reward for their manipulations.

@Karmadhi I actually hate our current government but I am allergic to unjustness in the name of "weak vs strong" illusionary scheme.

Or you are stuck in a narrative.

Indeed sad mistake. This organization has helped Israelis too after oct 7th.

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sjtbwpt1c

@Karmadhi Muslims according to this video. I understand where your passion is.

Palestinians living within Israel (2 Millions Arabs) prefer Israeli Jewish leadeship according to this street poll: I am only intented to upload videos which I see as insightful and challenge the simplistic pro palestinian narrative I see as very problematic. This is not to hurt any side (Jews/Arabs) because we have many great Arabs here in key positions in our society and, needless to say, no one is inherently better than the other.

Since this is an history thread I will attach this to here, to broaden the thread's pespective in order to show a bigger context. https://www.ajc.org/news/israels-enduring-quest-for-peace

Why it is worth considering more seriously, that hamas is a greater obstacle to peace (than Israel)? He has good refreshing points inside.

This is not what Israel do.

Totally dis-agree. Sorry to dissapoint. IDF still act like a western military in the micro level with his % of flaws. On the macro it is usually even more careful (you can argue about this war though). Proportions is important.

@Karmadhi hamas can easily disguise itself to healthcares, as it is infinately manipulative and must be to survive against an organized military. In the other hand, 30 years of terror makes the Israelis to see the other sides civilians as less important than them, because they feel those civilians support the terror atrocities hamas does. But this does not exempt Israel from responsibility to do maximum efforts to be surgical, what it honestly didn't.

Ok I cannot deffend this. This is barbaric. Unfortunately such soldiers exist too ):

@Karmadhi Can you send me a link to the video of the 14 yo kid?

@Karmadhi Sorry this isn't aligned at all with what I know about IDF and its values. Not because I am biased but because I was also in the army and hear soldiers and Israelis for decades. Al jazeera claims are unreliable. This is 99.99% hamas members who been shot in Sheifa and I hardly believe it was in an execution way. Did you see similar videos from other sources? If so please send here.