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If you care about good results, you should ask for a fair condemnation with a co-operative approach. A fair critisism on Israel can go like this ✏️📋 " 1. We suspect Israel acts not only out of a military necessity, but also cause an extra damage which doesn't help to fight hamas nor to protect its soldiers from hamas's fortifications, but rather costs civilians lives for nothing. 2. We know that the elimination of hamas is very important to the future of the Palestinians children in Gaza who been killed psychologically and maybe irreversibly from hamas education and indoctrination and need an urgent recovery plan, and to the Israelis too. 3. Therefore, we are not asking Israel to give out the war completely, because this is not a legitimate demand, but rather to invest more efforts, even if it is not easy given hamas interest to maximize civil casualties, to be as accurate and surgical in its actions as possible. 4. We are not just speak and preach because this is the easy part. But rather, we will work hard and think hard and invest some genuine effort by ourselve to create mechanisms that will ensure our demands from the IDF, because we really care about Gaza's situation therefore we will show this with our actions. 5. We are willing to talk openly with the Israelis as well as to listen with open mind to their traumas and legitimate concerns, and think together how to get closer and as fast as possible to our common goal. "

@Merkabah Star This is just so ridiculous. They even didn't agree to say hamas is a terror organization. This is so clear to me what is going on here. Sometimes a good intuition is really enough when you obviously don't and won't have the precise 100.00% scientific proof for many things. I saw 2 hours from the SA speeches (1 hour left to see) and the 3 hours of Israel response. The differences in the level and the quality of the claims are huge. No doubt at all, for me, that those accusation are not any other than an abuse, in a similar way conspiracy theorists use curnel of truths to make a totally engineered and wrong in its essence story. Israel's response was so much more directive, broad in their context that could keep a sensible and healthy structure all along the way, calm even, confident and to the point. For me it is very clear. This is not to say there are no problems need to be addressed as I said before in my comment to the video of ex-IDF soldier @Raze added, but the whole accusation of "genocide" is an entire house of cards. Absolutely ridiculous.

@Happy Lizard come on. I even don't know how to comment to that. Take your thoughts to where you want. I am not trying to convince anybody.

🇿🇦 South Africa delegation: "hamas is NOT a terror organization". A month ago South Africa leadership even hosted hamas leaders in their parliament. Now its clear their prosecution submitted to Hugue courte is highly infected to begin with. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2ASM08osuJ/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

The ratio is 3:1 to 3:1.5 (Not 1000:1) No wonder though you use the absurd trendy word. I am even not writing it for you but to prevent a deceiving of hundreds or thousands of readers here.

@Danioover9000 So you are taking one photo of a defensive imanignary idea to put in our borders in order to replace the defensive fence Israel thought will prevent wars and was wrong. And then you use this picture as a proof of a "genocidal" intent? Are you really expecting a serious answer for that? Isnt it a similar tactic to taking sayings of some soldier boys or a far right wing knesset member and get it out of context to dehumanize Israel as a whole? So now you try to dehumanize us in getting something totally out of its real context rather than react to the point of the claim?

It is not beyond then, it is before rationality.

Its been couple of years the I have a beliefe that it is, maybe, enough to just feel the emotions fully and to enough time in order to gradually understand yourself better through communication with your subconscious directly, and that intelectualization about the emotiom/thought gets in the way of it, and actually breaks that connection and prevent you from really tapping into your subconscious and your so to speak higher self. But I don't know, because if it was so simple, then the magic of this therapy process would diminish and in some sense I don't want it to be so simplistic, and I really think that some intelectualization and a complex inner communication is helpful or maybe necessary. And this is interesting for me to know what do you think? And after all, there is no a clear line between to just flow with an emotion/thought and to also think about it very consciously (to intelectualize) and we are always found anywhere in the scale.

The head of the courte declared on a coffee brake.

@Squeekytoy Agree. I am now in a point I am no longer believe the content but rather believe it has a subtext. In other words the story isn't right but it has a take home message.

@zazen Genocides are something else. Not relevant to Israel. Writing it 1000 times won't make it true 🙂

I don't think this is true. If they were beyond this they would not chose to do genocide. Maybe they were a mix of pre-rational and rational.

The Christian citizens of South Africa say something very different 🇮🇱🇿🇦 https://www.instagram.com/reel/C19dpl-tiF3/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== "South Africa stands with Israel even though they leaders have failed them" the post title. So, maybe, this is mostly the leaders there who blame Israel. It reminds me of Iran where there are many Iranian who are supportive on Israel and most of them hates their regime.

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@Yimpa Do you mean physically? Israel spent ~1.5 billion dollars on a smart fence out of an assumption this will prevent wars, but was wrong.

Israel won't stop the war against hamas anyway. hamas's defense mechanisms are very sophisticated but this won't work.

I really felt it instinctively. This sounds like a "compliment" when someone says when he put himself above you. A little difficukt to explain but it is very clear in my opinion.

@Karmadhi If you examine IDF operations during the years (and not only the PTSD one) you will see that IDF is just like any other western military and probably more polite and sensitive, and thats without denying the problems disccused here and in the video that @Raze added.

South Africa spokesman is turned out to be a jock. Of course this doesn't help the reliability of their claims on Israel. Its not the mistake (churches) as much as its his derogatory statement about the Jews.

What a transparent subconsciousness-engineering childish immature channel is that 🎨🪄 A media Jihad.

Valid points. Especially the second guy. The first one was too vague in his story. Fair enough, IDF, just as every western military, has its corruptions that implies a developmental need and still long way to go. There are a lot of problems within the military system that have to be addressed. The palestinian terror, and the deep fear it causes in the hearts of the Israelis obviously cause them to dehumanize the other side and I am sure it affects also the military behaviour. Then yeah, right. Having said all of that, we have to not get confused, and to not fall into the game of fake "symmetry" between the sides. Israelis (with a radical minority exception) have no desire to do anything to their neighbors as long as they are safe and not provoked. Israel wanted peace and offered peace so many times and been rejected. Thousands of Gazans been let to work here in Israel out of a good faith that it will make everybody more moderate including hamas, while invested 5 Billion shekels (~1.5 Billion dollars) on the defense smart fence, which didn't help. Israel thought, that the technology will make the wars unnecessary. Israel was wrong.

According to him: If the courte will aqcuit Israel, then Israel will continue "murdering". Which mean - If the courte will be in the favor of Israel then the court is Lying. In other words the courte will be right only if it will be by MY side. Whether its option 1 or 2, the consequences will still be "Israel is a devil". Surprise. He is preparing the ground for his win-win 😃 What a clever engineering work.

@Happy Lizard I am with you on that. This is why the "Israel" this forum see is not even close to the real Israel I know. From that comes the frustration. In a sense this radical governemt hijacked the whole country and society and decided for it how it will be grasped. And the more radical the person the more titles he will get. This completely distorts and hides the true face of our society.

@Danioover9000 I live in Israel...

Well then you obviously don't know Israel.