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Red is indeed a genius in using Green's weaknesses against him and by that making him to appear falsely as "red". Quite frustrating.

@zazen Again I agree on problems and can discuss on them with an open mind. But In the big picture there is here an overreaction of the immune system in its fight against the highly sophisticated hamas virus. Nothing will change that. Let it sink a little bit. Agree or not, everything is OK you have the right to hold your opinion. My opinion won't change, not about the big picture.

Damage = material damage.

24000 (~10,000 of them are hamas combatants) are the result of Israel's attacks on hamas and hamas's fortifications, combined with hamas's interest and constant efforts from day one to maximize civilians casualties as much as it can because this is their life's job in this war, because they know this is the only thing that can stop Israel from eliminating them.

But hamas are angels freedom fighters that throw gays from rooftops that treatens their freedom, rape women for the freedom of sexuality and executed hundreds of PLO people to ensure their freedom in Gaza.

Then you support a total collapse of Israel western values that will turn backwards women rights by centuries and maybe also will lead to the execution of LGBTQ. Ok. That is your opinion.

As long as you do this comparison you should not expect a willingness to discuss from any Israeli or a reasonable person here that I hope they won't fall into this trap.

Do you mean Nazi germany.

I think that Japan were co-operating with US in WW2 and the atomic bomb was just a distruction from the REAL co-operation that we couldn't see because of the destruction

I saw most of the six hour talks in hugue. Israel's explanations were very grounded to me succeeded easily to hold a stable healthy wide context to its claims. In the other hand the accusation was based on fragments of claims that can indicate problems, but can never compose the puzzle to make their accusation plausible. This is my impression I wrote here yesterday.

Probably Egypt knows something we aren't 🤔

Only Israel can be accused freely without asking for proofs

The problem is that hamas takes as much as humanitarian aid to itself, and given hamas interest to maximize the casualties and the humanitarian crisis, it for sure plays a main role in this crisis. 100-200 trucks with humanitarian aid cross the border to Gaza every day. Probably the need is higher and I hope the number will rise as a result of that.

@kenway The comparison to nazis is not worth a serious relation. It indicates nothing more than a total ignorance. Like to compare between the sun and chocolate. What is the connection? I don't know. About the video, as I said before it is very far from the truth of Israel society. For the analogy I can also take a video of another and extreme case of, say, murder of women by their husbands in Toronto (happens sometimes all across the world) and say that this is Canada.

Thanks. Good night.

@Nabd I appreciate your nuanced view. Only one crazy out of many is fair enough analogy. But I can't agree to the accusation being discussed last week. This is totally ridiculous. I saw most of the six hour talks in hugue. Israel's explanations were very grounded to me succeeded easily to hold a stable healthy wide context to its claims. In the other hand the accusation was based on fragments of claims that can indicate problems, but can never compose the puzzle to make their accusation plausible. If you want we can discuss problems. But the game of "genocide" I won't play. And now I really must go to sleep.

@kenwayI understand you were hurted from what I said. If I was wrong I am apologize and take my claim about your intention back. Don't take it personally. I feel an enormous hypocricy and dehumanization from the discussion here about Israel many times, and it might be that you just don't see this and that you acted from good intentions. So please just stay with what I wrote about the video (minus the relation to you which I erase now from the discussion and from the message). Have a good night. Here it is night anyway.

@Happy Lizard The video is light years away from daily Israel. But I don't want to force anybody to think in some way or another or to see beyond his or her heavy filters. I live here 36 years and the degree this is so far from average Israel was the reason I laughed so hard, from the absurdity 🙂 Your Idea is good and I will definitly do it. Thank you for your sincere desire to know and that you are open. I appreciate this.

I tried to think on a serious answer but I see no point and really couldnt find one. I cant relate to that seriously. If you can't see or admit the problem to yourself then OK. Keep in your way and do not disturb yourself.

Pretty neutral 😂🤣 Man why can't you do it a bit more sophisticatly and at least add some regular videos of regular Israelis (not just weirdous) and show the problems there? You will appear much more reliable. For your favor I am saying.

@Raze This video provides interesting points to discuss along with other weaker claims and of course dismissing of any hamas and palestinians responsibility in this tango. However this is light years away from the persecution's original accusation anyway. There is a deep and intersting to me psychological issue with the passion when people want to blame Israel that is still never the same as another war zones discussion where the situation is far worse