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In the past he went through severe Benzodiazepine withdrawal which can leave the biological system more sensitive to triggers even years later.

@zazen Ok, maybe Trump's deal will be the political solstice.

What would you do otherwise? Say you are the Israeli PM in August 2005 and for the next couple of years.

I get you, far from ideal. And still, an independent state. Honestly, and I don't care at all and have no sentiment to the settlements, I think that it is between very difficult to impossible to evacuate them. When Israel evacuated forcefully 8,000 Israeli citizens from Gaza in 2005 it caused a lot of uprising and in part of our society it was like a open wound emotionally to many, as I hear from people in the right-wing sector until these days.

I always add posts of Israelis just to be clear

@zazen Israel has offered to the Palestinians ~96% of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. If Israel was the way you describe it, it wouldn't withdraw.

@zazen But Israel did withdraw. Withdrawal exposes intentions and willingness you choose to not see. Without the intention to coexist and to go towards agreement and peace, there is no point in withdrawal.

If it was that simple Israel wouldn't withdraw from Gaza in 2005, Lebanon in 2000, Hebron (80% of it) in 1997, Nablus, Jenin, Tulkarem, Ramallah, Qalqilia and Betlehem in 1995.

Can we agree that the West and Israel are too not inherently evil?

And pro Palestinians only watch YouTubers who feed their biased narratives on Israel and their demonization. It is like you bring me to see every day videos from Mosul and I will tell you my opinion on US society and US establishment and origin devilery 😉

@Inliytened1 The problem is that Ben Gvir and Smotrich parties that have together 14 mandates (out of 120 Knesset members) DO want ethnic cleansing, and Netanyahu depend on them to maintain his government, what can explain the destruction in Gaza.

Israelis are too endlessly demonized by people who only see their country through heavy filters built by Youtubers who have never visited there.

@MightyMind He went to sleep because here is 1:34 AM

@Breakingthewall Israel too absorbed serious terror attacks for years but never reacted in this way until Oct7 which was 100 times worse.

@Breakingthewall And if European Muslim terorrists would do Oct7 to the Frenches or Italians.

"Gaza village" Kibbutz in Israel (not actual Gaza)

@Leo Gura Jews are tired of Netanyahu and prefer he will stay in hell alone.

In this you don't need to convince me, I agree with you here. 2M Palestinians are co-exist with the Jews inside every major Israeli city.

If it was done mostly from air, surgical on seniors of hamas and much shorter in time, then it was rational, but we have a government ruled by extreme tiny parties that can collapse it in any moment if Netanyahu won't do what they ask him to do. This is the main reason.

Benett in 2015: " Bennett emphasized the fundamental difference between ‘Likud’ and ‘The Jewish Home’ and said: ‘The Jewish Home is essentially the only party that opposes a Palestinian state; all the other parties support a Palestinian state. It is the only party that acted against the release of terrorists, while all the others essentially voted in favor.' " https://mobile.srugim.co.il/article/105276

@Raze The opposition parties (even part of Likud) were all for a Palestinian state before oct7 and from following them I believe they still do, but can't declare on it now as it is publicly sensitive today. Let the collective trauma cool a little bit.