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@zazen I don't want to disparage anyone's suffering, but even being in the Jungle but with your tribe and with an humanitarian aid comes these days regulary to the tents region, is still miles away better than to be alone in a tunnel, without sunlight, cannot move or communicate with anyone, cannot control anything, defenseless and at the mercy of hamas people that will decide if and when they will want to murder you.

@Karmadhi Keep a check on your side's double standards at least sometimes.

@lina Ok then Ben Gurion was indeed quite far right-wing according to that. There is no "fundmanental" or "one" Zionism. Every side in the political spectrum see this term differently. At the deep sense there is a reason Jews returned here.

@Raze There were negotiations for many years. I won't dispute that maybe Israel was also too tough in its demands, but there was a genuine desire from Israel to acheive a deal.

The group did Oct 7 aren't interested in 67 but in 48.

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@Karmadhi Nothing is compared to being alone with zero control on your life, utterly deffenseless and with no freedom of motion. A family in Gaza are in a far better initial position and the tents area is 99.9% safe.

@Karmadhi Honestly you can't compare the horror of hostage to anything else in this war which is in another league. But there is a place to argue about the price in human lives infront of the result. However a cold number comparison is not the proper way here. Add to the equation that part of the civilians allowed hamas to hide hostages in their homes and part of them are innocent. So yes there isn't a clear cut answer here, and anyway I think a hostage deal is needed.

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In response to Smotrich's video in which he says we have to settle in Gaza.

@Raze Iran arms hamas and hezbollah and funded terror actions against Israelis abroad. They (the regime) want to choke Israel from all directions to eventually eliminate it.

@Raze The Iranian regime aspires to eliminate Israel. You don't need to be pro Israel to think that, just to listen to their statements directly.

Former head of IDF (2002-2005) and minister of defense (2013-2016) Moshe Ya'alon.

@Karmadhi With all the problems, empirically speaking IDF ratio (combatants : civilians) in this war is better than any other urban war against terror done in the past by any country.

Stop listening to addicted/depended costumers afftected by problematic pharmaceutical drugs. That is what you asked now.

@BlueOak I like the attitude of the Iranian people. They are very experienced in the consequences of lack of democracy, an experience that europeans are lacking, and have a significant initial advantage in their ability to foresee the dangers of their regime's proxies ideology and its potential to influence Europe too.

I also think it will be demilitarized at least at the beginning although they still have an armed security force that co-operates already with IDF for years to suppress hamas in this area.

The security is quite significant here. This evening the LGBTQ assembly with a different format this year together with a Hostages release demonstration.

Israel has to establish now a security belt surronding the strip 5km depth into Gaza area built with multiple kinds of obstacles and save itself the right to respond harshly for every provocation from the side of hamas, what will anyway make slowly the guarantees US give to Qatar and Egypt to dissolve during the time and the next round is only a matter of time because hamas won't change.

Right.

They couldn't. You won't forget your home you left after couple of decades, so too a nation won't forget its home after couple of centuries.