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Ok I will read about him in depth thanks

Sounds like they are saying: Turquoise is Yellow but plus a more collective thinking about the whole world, more co-operation, more right brain and place for emotions, and thats it basically. But this is so abstract and vague, and I am not a corporation manager and won't be, so I am looking for individual signs of the stage. This is something I though about in the past but yesterday it was much stronger but again this is my opinion and for sure one piece of the stage and far from being the whole picture (assuming my opinion is true).

@Raze Ok I read it. This is an extreme view and I won't be surprised if Smotrich or Ben Gvir are holding it. Of course not my view. But again, after 3000 terrorists will come to your village and your home you will not be in a position to think rationally. You will only be traumatized and generalizing. This is NATURAL. Especially only one month after the event. And then when you have an extreme government like we have now, some of that will glitch into actions in subtle ways. What again, isn't justified of course and this is a bad and wrong way.

Do you believe me I have listened and read tens of hours of SD in the last 5 years and still didn't understand what the hell is turquoise and in what it is really different from yellow? Listening to this section now.

@Raze The only thing I can think about is to maybe pressure hamas about the deal that was in November and that tried to do in January (the times of those articles) but even if this is the case, this is problematic so I have no interest to deffend it or to give a clear cut answer because I don't have. If this was very temporary when in the other side were the hostages on the stake the answer is complex. But there is an option this wasn't because of the hostages at all and our governemt just decided to do so out of the thin air. I don't know what is true.

@Leo Gura ok started to read about him. What in him you see as the smoking gun proof he is turquoise?

Good for her. Was heartwarming to see. Still slay it.

Yes, the government has been elected by roughly half of the population but even its center of gravity didn't want a war before oct7th.

You confuse the deep right wing with the moderate and security forces sector of society agenda that tend and proved to be very different. Do some research.

Again they attack the Galil too regulary for decades. They resist Israel. Simple.

Even the definition of Arab (as well as Jew to Israelis) will be seen differently to different groups so the "Arab" a Druze see is probably not the Arab an Israeli Arab who isn't Druze see.

And in the other hand Hezbollah kidnapped 3 Israeli soldiers in 2000 just after peace negotiations in Camp David. And what about when hamas started a terrible series of suicide bombing inside Tel Aviv just after Oslo Agreement and BECAUSE of it! To fail it.

I have to admit this a bit hurted. Nothing personal of course about @Bobby_2021 he seems to me as a good person, but the twisting of the fault always back to the attacked one is something which is rooted in a paradigm according to which the west is always the abuser and every action of the Arab world is a legitimate response. This highly problematic paradigm overlook the cruelty those Arab regimes and terror groups tend to act upon in the exact same way to their own people too on a daily basis.

@Bobby_2021 1. The Galil (hasnt occupid in any war) and the Golan are under attack from Hezbollah in the exact same way. 2. The kibbutzes near Gaza hasn't occupied. 3. Hezbollah is in Lebanon and the occupied area is from Syria. 4. Asad killed hunderd of thousands of his citizens so he has no problem to kill anyone who treaten him, similar to hamas who act cruely to his own people just as to Israelis. 5. Five Arab countries has attacked Israel in 1948 so, in their eyes, the existance of Israel is an occupation by itself.

Some things its ok to ignore. Reacting to such darkness from a position of discomfort will only strengthen those absurd ideas because you let the exact same mechanism caused a person to write this to affect you too. When a person is really comfortable in his worldview he won't need to jump to such interpersonal absurd comparison to compensate his epistemical holes. Keep post positively and from a position of strength and show the healthy side of our case (not Bibi, but something else for example), like it doesnt bother you at all. In this way you can make a real change. Even my reaction now is a reaction but I can only obligate to a slow change in the quality of my comments from a realistic view rather than be 0% triggered overnight what isn't realistic.

But did you see the frames when the other side said (I assume this was probably the case) those things too? By the way who stands behind the escalation between the sides in 1920s and 1930s? Or maybe this is actually a chicken and an egg?

I won't argue with you on the fact that this is indeed a hugely difficult reality to Gazans and quite traumatizing to tens of thousands of them.

From top to down: - The numbers shows that (38-15)/15 is a killed ratio of 1.5:1 which is better (not good absolutly of course but my claim is relative) than any other urban war done by western military. - There was one incident when hamas weapon caused Israeli attack to indirectly harm civilians. If you know about more events please add here maybe I miss some but that is what I heard. - Israel accept gays like Europeen countries do when in Gaza they would be executed. You can go to the thread about the support of gay marriage in Israel and read all the detailed there. You make far reaching claims from emotions and unfamiliarity with Israel. Please try to answer with rational evidence.

@zazen Any claim about "genocide in Gaza" has to, at the same time, be addressed to Mosoul and some other cities in Iraq and ask the exact same questions regarding US and Europeen countries that participated in the coalition, because otherwise the critisism isn't fair and hypocrite.

Maybe Ben Gvir and Smotrich wanted that, but I can't see an evidence in reality of acting of the government upon that. Lucky those two have limited power. I agree with you though careful attitude is needed when in such a heated conflict. No desire to argue or to do a competition here just to let you know this isn't what I want. Everyone can think whatever they want. Soon I have time to concentrate I will reply.

How is there a genocide in the current case? Comparing those cases is unjust to my view because the profound differences in the severity between them, despite the psychological mechanism and potential dangers similarity.

To an existential threat? I just don't fully knowledged in ww1 apart that I know they were attacked from all directions and humiliated. but why to compare so different cases, value systems and motivations? When Israelis though to do or done even 0.1% of the severity of the killing, the restriction of freedom to the individual and suffering creating methods the Nazi regime did?

What bothers be here in an additional psychological layer is that when there is one time we can eventually say what we have on our heart after been demonized non stop for 9 months (again I am not justifying Bibi's way in this war, far from that, but I am talking over this now) so you (Rashida) can't for a moment just listen? To show minimal respect to the other side when talks? You must even now to keep with it even in the congress? This is sad and inhumane.