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Yeah, and clearly not to take "more" land as the Likud and parties further to the right want. I have never been educated on the notion that Palestinians don't belong to this land too.

When I saw the video of Chris Hedges you added back then of just I don't want to say the word but just relating to Israel in such an inhumane and generalized way when the woman with Keffiyeh welcome him to the podium and for me this still feels like the symbol of those attacks since I was a child. To see this felt horrible for me in the way that like what happened to them that switched the sides in such an unjust way. I am not entering the complex discussion now but this was my raw feeling. Nothing personal on you Leo of course.

I agree that my government's actions can't be covered under survival claims, but even regular liberal or moderate citizens have memories of terror attacks and exploded buses in their cities and therefore developed over many years a different and more rubast coding in their brains on Gaza and the West Bank than in almost any other realm of life, regardless of their development.

You can follow Itamar Ben Gvir here: https://x.com/itamarbengvir

You can Follow Gantz here: https://x.com/gantzbe

@Husseinisdoingfine Look here: https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-904480?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Right-wing: Makor Rishon, Israel national news https://www.israelnationalnews.com/?utm_source=chatgpt.com Center: Ynet https://www.ynetnews.com/category/3083 Left-wing: Haaretz https://www.haaretz.com/

@Heaven I get you. We can't control who wants to understand and who doesn't. We can just show things as they are as much as possible and let people think for themselves.

So basically they are coasting on dopamine fumes most of the time?

Relative political positions as follows. Is this enough Right or enough Left? Judge yourself! Links are from the international Wikipedia. There will be some changes during the time, so see this as a starting point. Satellite tinier parties will be shown weekly on this thread too. Right-wing 🏰⛲️ candidates Ben Gvir, Smotrich, Netanyahu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezalel_Smotrich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Likud - - - - - - Center-Right 🏤 candidates Avigdor Liberman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yisrael_Beiteinu - - - - - - Center 🏘 candidates Gantz, Lapid (teamed up with Bennett who is more right-wing) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yesh_Atid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Gantz - - - - - - Center-Left 🏡🌲 candidates Eisenkot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yashar_(political_party) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadi_Eisenkot - - - - - - Left-wing ☕️🍃🍁 candidates Yair Golan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Democrats_(Israel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yair_Golan - - - - - - Arab population ⛪️🕌 representatives Mansour Abbas, Ahmad Tibi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansour_Abbas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta'al

Yes, this is depressing Here is a good one on this topic

@Majed But you describe an ideal version of this, which is very difficult to reach for the average person. The ability of a domain to mobilize people upward towards healthier and higher version of living life is the litmus test for its goodness. If only 5% of people in a given religion (be it Islam, Judaism or Christianity) can become really fulfilled then it isn't good enough.

@zazen Yeah exactly (: Even sharper than I put it

Hey (: How are you? I think the only chance something will change here is with the opposition parties. This will take time and won't be easy anyway. A lot of potential backlashes, a lot of fear of sharp statements after Oct7. Super-sensitive issue here. The differences between them and the coalition are real and significant, but I don't want to feel like trying to point this or that to people. This is anyway not helpful, and I feel I have squeezed this 🍋 I just can recommend to do a research about these opposition parties leaders, and ask whatever you want. Eisenkot Yair Lapid Yair Golan Bennett. He is anti two-states but part of the anti-netanyahu sector today leading the party "together" with Lapid who is in favor of this solution. Gantz Liberman Their parties are displayed in detail on "List of members of the twenty-fifth Knesset" on the English Wikipedia. I hope I haven't forgot someone.

Netanyahu's government, his coalition's parties and plenty of their supporters indeed prefer hamas' rule in Gaza instead of the PLO.

@Alexop So a Left coalition. You will be the responsible adult to restrain the wokies 😝

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@Alexop If you win as the biggest party, is there a chance the Greens and the Oranges will agree to make a coalition with you? Then you won't get too stuck (as if you were with the oranges alone) and also won't cause backlash from the conservative side.

@Alexop What are the key differences between the woke V and the Green MP?

@Alexop Oh Good luck Can you show a poll of the different parties and their relative power? 😔

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I think it can be a defense mechanism, but also can be a healthy development into Blue or Green in a form of "religous" lifestyle, but there are many other forms to do that transition like volunteer at a non-profit organization, start doing Yoga or Meditation, start Veganism etc

No! They are all red Zi0nists 😈🌶 (;

Maybe there is intelligence in the disorder too.

@Raze In Iraq the ratio was also around couple of civilians for each combatant, similar to Gaza.