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You have earned the suspicion we feel for some of you by the incessant flooding of demonization and slogans repeating the same mantras for months with very little, if any, tangible explanations or willingness to engage with substantive discussion. In the message above I really invited you to raise points through writing and didn't say anything personal, but sorry if you get hurted because this wasn't meant. Whatever you want to do from here is up to you.

@Danioover9000 Nobody posioned anything nor said anything about you personally so don't gaslight.

@Danioover9000 I bring tangible points to here, you bring Al jazeera. When you want to have a rational discussion you are welcome 🙂

@zazen The "Ethnic cleansing" narrative is a myth, for many reasons: 1. This video: 2. The 90s - decade of four different signed agreements between Israelis and Palestinians. 3. Genuine and long lasting trials of Ehud Barak (2000), Ariel Sharon (2002-2005), Ehud Olmert (2006-2008) and Tzipi Livni (2013-14) to achieve a two state solution. 4. Upper and under ground fences surrounding Gaza costed ~ 10 Billion dollars, the prove Israel didn't want to to mess with Gaza but to put it behind. 5. Shrinking of compulsory service in Israeli army from 3 years to ~2.6 years and the rise of "tiny but smart army" paradigm based mainly on technology (before oct 7th). https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/how-start-nation-brand-failed-israel/676308/ When you have time, I wrote you a comment above.

Can you aknowledge, despite the over generalization and demonization this survival mode causes in the mind of Israelis, the partial importance and necessity of this mode and from where it comes and that it has also valid reasons for? That it isn't out of evillness but out of fear?

+1 ❤️ Greatly put.

The medicalization trend of mental experiences is by itself a problematic perspective needs to be questionable just as everything else.

Of helping a person in believing in himself and building an infrastructure of self validation and independent thinking.

For me an independent thinking was key to reduce my anxiety and ocd. Conventional methods didn't help me at all, and I dare to say any linear method cannot tackle any problem on its root, though legitimate as an additional tool to try, and as a baseline to start with.

Because of tons of factors that worsen his situation much more than me or your situation.

No, but can be an another layer of help in an holistic approach.

We all have sometimes symptoms that remind a mild version of some mental condition, when the differences between us and the people we consider to have bpd/ocd/schizo etc are on degree and not on kind. Therefore when we seperare ourselves from such people and saying we can't touch them, we are in a sense betray the goal for which we are here in the first place that is to help ourselves (and others) conquer their most profound emotional challenges what spirituality is all about.

Ok this anyway isn't supposed to replace therapy, but to just throw him or her away is not smart too. Spirituality and mental health heading the same direction fundamentally, and the seperation between the ones who "don't have" mental conditions to the ones who have them is a mistake, and also wrong.

When in emergency or acute phase yes. In the long term you have to be as holistic as you can. When I reacted to you above I didn't talk about emergency but on chronic phase managment.

Ok so throw them to the ocean to be dependent only on psychiatry without broadening their perspective. Very responsible.

Great but most bpd are people who can and also need to get help from an advanced conscious community when regulated in special sub forums and done responsibly.

😂 The most toxic and cult-ish meme I have ever seen. @Vrubel If Andrew Tate was talking about Israel this is how it would sound. Exactly the toxicity you mention all the time Israelis need to face. Lucky I am in Tel Aviv port and have clean air to breath.

@Danioover9000 No you just gaslight right now and do manipulations and say things I didn't say.

@Danioover9000 Yes my views are like Vrubel but I didn't say to Leo anything like the things that you said because every one of us have our emotions and angle from where we see this issue so there is no need to mention this.

I didn't claim that. You got confused.

I didn't say that. Don't know what you talking about.

You are free to think whatever you want. It is hard to make a discussion without tangible points. Whatever you choose.

@Danioover9000 You cannot be more mainstream then Al jazeera and the exposure it gets.

@Danioover9000 Today the world is found on Instagram and Tiktok and the Palestinian propaganda reaches 100M people only in the Muslims world and from them to the rest of the world easily. The Israeli one is in a complete inferiority.

I can totally feel it and be empathetic with this. When I do not deny that propaganda seems shallow from both sides, the partial falshood and demonization the other side do to Israel is very hard to handle emotionally, so I can understand why our propaganda needs to stand on its hind legs.