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Watched it and so far it isn't convincing (about Israeli Arabs). Many big words and language acrobats but not much substance. How do you see the status of black people in US in comparison to white ones?

@Breakingthewall If you have the time and would want to delve deeper I would like to recommend to you an interview of an Arab senior journalist in the Israeli mainstream media who speaks on how is to be an Arab in Israel.

A Mosaic of different groups 🧩 😃

Palestinians inside Israel (Israeli Arabs) vote in elections and have representatives in the Knesset. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_List

@Breakingthewall To clarify, it isn't "Palestinians' fault" that they chose to resist to Israel in the West Bank. It isn't easy to just accept to co exist with new people who come to your region. But I thing I have an insight. Palestinians and Jews in West Bank are more ideological to begin with and this is why co existence there couldn't be created. Whereas in the coastal plain, northern Israel and mountain shelf there is a co existence between Israelis and Palestnians who both are more moderate. Jews in mountainy areas vote traditionally much more to the Right Wing in comparison to Jews in other areas.

Palestinians that showed willingness to coexist are now walking around in Israeli cities completely free aside the Jews living in the same neighborhood and buy food in the same supermarket. There are 2 million Palestinians who live this way. In contrary, when both sides are suspicious to each other we have an ever escalation between the sides what lead to the situation in the West Bank. I feel I don't have an answer about who is more to blame in the situation. Both sides aren't smart in their actions here and both contribute to that.

Because there are still many fanatics in Israel who came to power in the last election and turned the wheel to the extreme right. They use their power to exort the Prime Minister to imply their ideology or they will retire and collapse the government.

Major General (Res.) Yom Tov Samia: "Today's Likud is not the Likud we were accustomed to 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. Today's Likud is a crazy entity that has brought in Ben Gvir and Smotrich and is leading us to destruction."

Why to assume that you know how your subconscious should be? What if your subconscious is smarter than you and already knows how to navigate you and you have to be more humble and listen more?

@Raze Also Israel has entered 200-400 trucks of basic needs to Gaza in average every day for 18 years. This is aid around the clock.

It can be but I meant to give them other areas. In Israeli perspective is to prevent dangerous terror attacks that can get out of control.

This has truth but oversimplified because much of this blockade was a security necessity. Don't forget you have to secure a terror state from leaking outside.

Of course you won't evacuate 100K people this is why there is an areas exchanges in the deal. To compensate. Ask yourself why. This is de-facto an Arab dominant area all the time.

And Israel left one-sidedly Gaza in 2005 but only got more rockets in return. If Israel wanted to conquer Gaza it wouldn't bother to invest Billion of dollars in security upper and undergound (novel technology even) fences. What, again, shows us that each time there is a camp (Liberals vs Messianic) that get more dominant in the decision making processes, and I don't need to tell you which camp is on the driver seat today.

@Husseinisdoingfine I remember that when I was a kid. The negotiations lasted long time and there were trials even after the 2nd intifada started. Let alone before that. Many many times. Always failed. I believe that Bibi wanted them to fail, but not at all Olmert and Barak that been called traitors by the Right wingers. And Itzhak Rabin of course the most dedicated prime minister for peace. Barak and Olmert really wanted that and with them the whole liberal camp. Unfortunately the more it failed, the less Israelis kept believing it.

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I understand why it may seem that way from outside. This is the nature of looking at societies we aren't familiar with. In reality there are many colors and nuances among the Jews just as among any other society or religion.

@Breakingthewall It is impossible to evacuate 100K people this is why the negotations were on areas replacement as a compensation to areas that cant be given. For me it sounds fair and moral if it wil be done.

This: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yesh_Atid The party that represents the Center (not right wing and not Left wing) of Israel.

@Breakingthewall Don't get me wrong our current hellish government (to Israelis, to the hostages, to Palestinians, to everyone) is the last one I would want to defend. I seperate the two issues.

The Zionist reason is first and foremost to secure Jews in their own home when every other religion can co exist with them according to the declaration of independence. Other streams will though emphasize the biblical compenent more. Depend on the sub group. Don't believe youtube channels full of agenda so fast (I am kidding it isnt personal I am not saying you do).

Because the reality is very complex as Jews were themselves after a far worse trauma that I think didn't left them much of a choice but to come to this land. So there is a dynamic here and not one side who is to blame. Ben Gurion said a lot of different things too. After all he is the first prime minister. If he thought he is only wrong he wouldn't bother to establish Israel.

No no. "Zionist" for them has a totally different meaning with values of Co-existance. I know cause I learned this term in school. This is why this word is misleading because you and them interpret and mean it very differently.