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Maybe Youtube managers are at yellow and therefore opposed to turquoise values ?

Can you explain why? It can be a very powerful tool to wake up people if i will be able to explain WHY their capitalist ideology is dangerous (and help them move to green). 2. When you will upload this topic (conscious politics) to youtube? I am very curious about this topic.

@11modal11 how can vladimir putin be Coral?! he eliminates people who are opposed to him and supresses gay protests. putin is just BLUE for my opinion. Coral wouldnt do those unmoral and unconsiouse things.

@Leo Gura it will be also about helping people (and my country) move up the spiral? ?

Soften them more and more as long as you keep developing. If your mental issues aren't getting milder and softer during the months and years (long run) of self development - then you are not developing.

I put the extreme right-wing on blue, and the extreme left wing on green. "Its politically biased! You say left is superior!" I said that no, it just that that early stages are more surviving - MY needs, MY family... Right = Me, My, Our... So of course that extreme right-wing will be blue and extreme leftist will be green. But my friend says "No. Stalin was left!" I said - but how he can be left when murdering so many people? And he said: "because he wanted total equality. He doesnt care only his family but he cares all his society, he cares the whole state. And he thinks everyone is equal. He doesnt believe in religion, he believes in sharing agriculture... He thinks much more like the left than like the right... Therefore stalin is LEFT! " What do you think?

@ValiantSalvatore and yes, in my country ~45% are orange-green. I know that just because the election results and values of that sector (gender equality, LGBTQ rights etc) As you said POTENTIALLY ? because nobody knows this model exist!

@ValiantSalvatore what does it mean "to process unfold"? The new book will tell me how to help people move up the spiral? I read only the introducation (the only pages which available in the internet) and it doesnt look very convincing. It seems the book only reffers the macro (organizations, states and etc) but i want more knowledge about how to make people move up the spiral by one-on-one conversations and things i can say to them to make them want the next stage.

I know what yellow is, but turqouise is not clear to me. Yes, turqouise is when yellow is ready to let the things loose, and now (in turqouise) he thinks less, he 'flows' more with the stream and co-oparate with people, he thinks that the world is one organism... he is more spontaneous... I read eckhart tolle book "power of the moment" and i understand and liked very much the book. But only agreeing with all that the book says and loving the book doesnt make you turqouise... you have to really be in this stage. But how? it sounds too amorphic. Unmeasurable and unindicativable. Right now i try to chalenge myself to think more and more like yellow. But in the future, in couple of years, i want to have any indication to know if i started turqouise or not. How can i ever know?

@Leo Gura Where can i find turquoise people and actually have easily direct conversation with them (not gurus, just people ?)? In which facebook groups?

@Leo Gura tell those people the "how to transcend blue/orange" that you have said at the end of the videos, can be helpful to open them a little bit (When doing it softly and not pushy)? And thank you for the in depth answer.

@Serotoninluv ? I really dont have problem to give them the candy toffy "yes yes blue is extreme left too" just to make them fucking READ the summary I did on the model and to learn it.

@Serotoninluv Thanks! Where do you think the extreme-left is on the spiral?

@mandyjw ok yes you are right. Thanks for the answer. Very interesting. Do you think blue can be equally left and right or that blue is mainly right-wing?

@Joseph Maynor if i know that there are infinite causes and effects for every thing, and all the atoms make me think what i think (Determinism idea) and therefore we can't control anything, we all like moving on a rail road. and that is the prove that all society is one organism. This is not what turqouise understands? Because It can be explained scientificly.

You are not serious i hope haha

@Yellow_Girl but there is also premise 4 - you have to BE the previous stages and live and breath those stages too. And still every blue, orange and green person has something he knows that you dont. In other words - you have work to do in order to go turquoise. Maybe your best friend will be at yellow and above. Its ok. But you steel have a lot to learn from every stage especially in embracing every stage (healthy parts) through your LEGS (and not through mind) !! Also send spiral dynamics to your friends and family.

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And do 15-30 minutes of just whatching my thoughts/emotions, the mind is smarter than you and it will by-pass it, in a way that you THINK you are watching objectively, but in the sub consiouse level, the mind filters out all the uncomfortable watching and let me do the "watch" only on the things it allows me! that's what i think happen to me. You think you do a "broadband" whatching but actually it is not the case, and during the months my mind get used to it (in similar way it respond less and less to antidepresants i think) and I feel i am actually keep doing the same neural rout in my brain all the time! It feels to me like it becomes the new default line for my brain and if feels much LESS effective over time. Have you feel like that too? and what did you do to get out of this and restore the effectiveness like you had in the start?

@CreamCat I read vegan people who said its a lie. Its seems to me quite rare to be care of all-animals life in red blue stages. But even if its true, it just because he grasped animals as the right kind of living-being and jews, homosexuals and gypsies as the wrong side. It is still a racial ideology. If someone thinks of some races of humans as viruses, it is no problem for him to put the animals above them. I think animals are totally equal to humans in the end of the day.

@Not me its all about your flexibility and how less ideological you are. One who is very moderate and soft-right-wing (and close enough to the center) can be even in tier 2.

@Not me yellow will lead much more flexible economy with capitalist or socialist attitude depends on the situation and the time. For my opinion. I think Yellow is much more centrist.

Orange use only researches and cold logical details to tell him what food is healthy ?‍♂️ Green knows that our intuition and senses are MUCH better indicators to know whats healthy because fruits and vegetables were adapted to us biologically during evolution of millions of years, and no scientist will EVER be smarter than this. Yellow will use both the wisdom of nature and science to know more accurately how to manage his nutrition cleverly to not have defficiencies. for example science shows us that iodine is diluted from the ground becuase of the excessive industrial use, and therefore its important to take this mineral from organic seaweed or to buy the food from natural and very specific farms.

@bejapuskas but if it wasn't useful then the model wasnt useful... but we know the model IS useful. Dont you want to know where are you in the map? And from this to know what your challenges are?

@Ferdi Le thats great. So you probably already have 10-20% Of yellow (?) How can we know how much (approximately) we have from a color we have just did the first steps in it? I feel very similar to what you said. Especially in veganism.