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To establish a normal government and make a 2 state deal and thats it. Nothing else will be good.
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Left and center parties were for 2states before oct7. Even Bennet said in one interview that his party is the only one who is against palestinian state. Like the dominant opinion was for 2states.
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I saw many videos about what Palestinians children "learn" about the Jews. Crazy unearthy things. Only two state solution will save us all.
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Those Palestinians are ones who know Israelis from inside and aren't undergo a toxic fallacious education about them.
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You are right. At the beginning the war was more necessary, but at this stage the hostages are much more important. Long term hamas will fail the deal in some way and Israel can come back to eliminate it but it will take years.
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We have already 2 million Palestinians living with us, in Israeli cities, very peacefully. Were do you live? Would you agree a middle eastern Sharia Law country citizens to erase all of your liberals laws?
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Read a bit about how our method works, and how much rounds of elections Israel had during last couple of years until some side succeeded to win them and even that after many gymnastics and good luck.
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Bibi will find a way to continue the war or an apparently kind of war to survive. The protest can make some Likud members to retire and get down the crazy government. The change has to happen from inside and not from unhealthy forces from outside who don't really care about Israel and even Palestinian's good.
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Maybe in the surface level but in the depth their motives are not healthy.
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They are Israeli citizens who want to live sanely as a western liberal advanced country does and they represent 50%+ of the Israeli population, not the crazy anti Israeli wokies they will never join to.
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Tel Aviv is exploding for the release of the hostages and against Netanyahu's policy.
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Of course even if you follow your authentic feeling and sense of purpose, you have the responsibility to do it in the healthiest way possible, what I admit Jews not always did. But to just dismiss Jews's authentic compass to return to their land is not a honest approach. Nothing here says this is not Palestinians authentic true land too. Both are true, and this is why the two state solution (with enormous security precautions) is the right one. I can return back what you just say to you in the sense of the strong bias/negative automatic feeling about everything Israel does.
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Nivsch replied to ricachica's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The problem is complex but one of its components is the lack of inner meaning and inner rewarding source. It is better not to impose how you see sprituality on him but rather to lead him to follow his own path according to his intuition. Working on finding his leading core values can be beneficial, together with encouraging him to confront his negative emotions directly in a constructive way and with a learning mindset. Will be a long process for sure. -
I personally think that every stage has an agenda, just more elevated the more you rise. For example when I just learned about spiral dynamics I thought yellow is very unideologic and neutral. Nothing is further from the truth than this. Yellow is not any less ideological but his ideology is mainly the Health of the system, be it a society, a corporation, a relationship or your own mind of course, as well as other people's health of mind. This kind of ideology provides a much deeper form of justice than what green provides.
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Aside to key people from Israeli society, I will start to add official (translated to english) twitts of top Israeli mainstream channels that get the highest rating above all with a big gap: Channel "Kan" 11 ,Channel 12 and Channel 13 . There is also channel 14 which is the rigid very ideology driven Right wing one but 1. Has far less rating and popularity, and 2. talkings from there are anyway overemphasized here so there is no point to add more of the same but rather to show the side which rarely seen in the foreign media but seen the most in our media and represents better how things are seen from the Israeli eyes.
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The Palestinians have 50% of the responsibility they are seen as a constant threat and as an enemy in the eyes of many Israelis and Right wing governments.
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West bank is originally a Jordanian land. *Israel's Right wing.
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So too rape, torture, burning people alive and gas chambers are also due to injustice by this logic? Those are marketing strategy for stage Red's life meaning and imperialistic passion that just changes its form all the time, when the current excuse is Israel. Not injustice but stage Red sense of meaning in life. Good night. Must go to sleep.
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I think any nation or individual have to follow their authentic feelings and intuition that give them true meaning. Jews in a land that would be chosen for them randomally in Europe would feel empty, unauthentic and unconnected and humilliated to a significant extent. Authentic actions have a significant importance to one's mental health be it a nation or an individual.
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What do you exactly mean by that?
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Yes this is my opinion but it represents an entire nation's authentic feelings, urges and identity that is not less legitimate than the Paleatinian's one. They are both legitimate.
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Additionally, why that the muslim world will care so much about the Palestinians if they barely care about a slightly different muslim group than them as we can see in their non stop internal wars between soonis and shias for example? The answer is, this isn't because some oppression, it is only because ISRAEL does this oppression! The core reason is Israel. Not an oppression itself that happening. Their ego start to care only when Israel does it. What proves the real core reason is the conflicting worldview and not the existance of an oppression by itself. Because oppressions happens all over the middle east in endless and often far worse forms and terrorists are silence to that.
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I am not saying it is the right or the only right one. I am just saying I think a nation who lived in a given area for a millenia in the past has the right to return to this area especially after the worst possible lesson they have learnt at the end of the era during which they have lived distributed abroad.
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The fact that Israel existance (less the occupation of 1967 to my opinion) fuels the terror motivation does not mean Israel is doing something wrong or bad, but just that the Israeli worldview is conflicted with the muslim fundamentalists one. While it is true that Israel does wrong things for sure, but this isn't the real main source of the terror motivation.
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@Leo Gura ISIS mass murdering in mosoul, ISIS desire to go back to the 7th century, their attacks on Europe, 11.9 attack, terrorism in Iraq, ISIS terrorism in Sinai, the arab spring in Egypt, Assad mass murdering in Syria, Iran regime ideology, Iran terrorism in Yemen are all in order to free the palestinian land? I dont understand this logic..