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I just had a conversation with my mom when I said I don't need to clean the dust on a fruit on the tree we have in our garden (100% organic obviously), and she said "You have to wash it!". I then said that in nature we didnt wash the fruits. and then she said "In nature people lived until age 40". Why people don't trust nature? Ok thats true that the technology helped a lot to fight diseases and provide emergency treatments which are very important. But still, why people think that in nature we couldn't reach age 90 from time to time? This is an issue I want know better. Beyond all this it pisses me off that familiy members/friends are so discredit nature. Isn't it low consciousness to discredit nature intelligence? What do you think?

Ok this makes sense to me i agree. But why you said in your first comment nature is the problem? I mean that It seemed to me that you connected between the need to wash the fruit and the brutality of nature.

Because your purest, unconnectable (language transcended - cannot be put into words) inner-child's desires will keep chasing you until you will be conscious to their presence and listen to them. And you will also feel unexplainable pain as long as you cant see them clearly enough. Therefore shadow work and authentic self realization are one. What all this things are? EGO. You may say 'no this is not exactly the ego'. But they are connected to the ego wants, just that these are the most profound wants. Maybe ego is just a word, but this is not just a word game here but a real issue, because if you underestimate the ego you also suppress your much deeper self expression wants to be uncovered.

When it really done like this it seems ok to me.

I disagree. Ego is not just a survival mechanism that opposed to enlightment but also rooted in the so to speak higher self. Every anxiety/depression/other mental symptom will first of all wants you to survive for obvious reasons of responding as fast as possible, but it also has a more profound reason one level deeper rooted in your authentic self wants, but the trick is that it is less trivial to see the subconsciois reason.

I mean that also the action of trying to weaken/dissolve the ego is also wrong.

This is too extreme and paranoid. this is a fucking fruit from a tree.

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@gettoefl Why not the other possibility which is to be as connected as you can to your ego most profound messages and desires? Why not to go with him?

@Kksd74628 If you want long term egoless/less egoig state even then I think that the right way is to go with him and his instructions and not against.

@GreenWoods Nothing can replace the #1 tool to development which is processing your uncomfortable thoughts and feelings. Not meditation and not psychedelics even tough they are still very helpful but can never replace the primary tool. I really think there is no "final stage" and every awakening is also just a stage. I agree that spiral dynamics is limited but it can evolve and will be.

@Carl-Richard Luckily ssri's are not addictive in this definition but they dependence forming. You can have withdrawal for months and even years if you reduce them in the phase doctors advice you. Benzos are addictive I think.

Green does not respect the inner logic and the intelligence of the thinking and actions of other people and their connection to one's authentic self and inner child. They only respect them if they come from green's values. "I think you should try to do this and that" No. He needs to do exactly what he does right now and make his conclusions for himself (the only exception is a dangerous situation).

Always process the UNcomfortable thoughts and feeling you have. Nothing else can solve your problems from their root, no matter how many psychedelics you will do.

Be fucking interested in the other person genuinely. If you are his/her type, then the attraction will happen naturally.

Yes I will update you ?

And theoretically if I will take 30,000 IU every day it can happen even after few weeks?

In ng/*mol* you are right. But in ng/mL this is too high. Also the most important thing is how much YOUR body wants! More is not necessarily better. You want to know how much your body really need naturally. I think it may be better to emphasize the sunlight method because in this way you can know most accurately what is your steady state. See what @undeather said in previous conversation that too much (20,000IU) might be dangerous. Thats made me think that maybe even 10,000 every day for a long time might also be risky.

@Michael569 But I have read that 15-20 minutes of exposure to the sun in the mid day can provide 10,000-30,000 IU and after that the D production stops because of melanin and protective mechanisms when the skin start to be red. I have read more and I think the dry skin because of scrubs might disturb the production of this vitamin. Intuitively there is no reason in my opinion that 2 months of exposure in this way wont be enough to do a significant increase of 10 ng/ML or even more.

@Michael569 And after stopping how much time it takes to the leves to go back? I want somthing more stable and deeper solution. I have read that supplements are not necessarily used optimally by our body as it will see them as too much middle derivative and then stops to converse them to final derivative and basically developes tolerance. Also I read yesterday from @undeatherthat too much in one take might be dangerous. Also the absorption through digestionis is much faster then through the skin and therefore less safe. The natural mechanism is infinite times more intelligent then supplements BUT this doesnt mean not to use them for couple of months when the level is too low. I am just not sure that 30 ng/mL it too low. Its low but not critically. I think about to try not to scrub face, hands and lower parts of the legs. I know that D is absobed in deep layers of the skin but I understand now the if you scrub you remove the fat from the top layers and our body will transfer fat from the deeper layes to compensate and then you can still loose vitamin D in this way. Natural way in our latitude of Israel must be enough just need to be done right. So I think about the natural way (maybe to take also low dose (1000-2000 of D3+K2) but not sure).

@WokeBloke Don't get stressed by the solipsism issue. Everyone have their own stage of consciousness and their stage's excesses/traps etc. I dont know who is more or less right, and you too. Do your own journey by keep processing your uncomfortable feelings and thoughs.

@Husseinisdoingfine Hamas hide behind civilians purposely to prevent Israel from attacking them because hamas knows that Israel is very careful to not harm civilians.

@Husseinisdoingfine Terrorist = Attacks innocent people. Israel never do this purposely. Hamas and hezbollah do this purposely.

@Husseinisdoingfine Hamas and hezbollah terrorist hides behind civilians and use them as human shield.

@Husseinisdoingfine Israel bombing Iranian advanced weapon transfered to hezbolla in syria. Not civilians. Gaza and lebanon bombing were because of the missiles hamas and hezbolla fired on Israeli Civilians. But Israel targets always only terrorists. thats the difference. The terrorists hides behind civilians and therefore sometime civilans get bombed mistakenly.