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Great video of Teal thank you (the second I didnt hear yet). Even though I believe she is quite right, how can I know she didn't just rationalized a wishful thinking she has? And what does it mean "high/low vibration"? Does It mean high/low flexibility in thinking? All the high spiritual words don't help, actually do the opposite and reduce the reliability of what she tried to say.
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mood later? I don't mean to just going downward back to the zero point, because this is obvious (if you go up you will later go down). I mean to a NEGATIVE wave. Is such a wave really must come after a positive wave in one's mood, that one will have to pay all the mood-debt EXACTLY to the point (that he has acumulated during the high-mood period)? Its a question that I ask. I dont know if its really true. I want to know what do you think. For example: say I had a very positive week of "+4" mood. Is that means, that I will SURELY have, later, an opposite period which in, i'll must pay all the mood debt? (to the point!) and therefore I will have: A week of "-4" mood (medium-high but short depression). Or two weeks of "-2" mood (low to moderate depression/anxiety/etc). Or A month of "-1" in average (uncomfortable mood but Lite). Or a more complex form of payments spreading. Which in the sum of all its parts, will be exactly equal and equivalent to "-4", in such a way that in average, in the long run (let's say couple of years) the average mood must be very very close to 0 (or to the long-run thermostat that you have which have to rise slowely within the years, if you are really developing). Does our mood really work like that? Or do you think it works different to what I wrote? What do you think? Another example: 2 months of more excitement and 'butterflies' than usual, but after that... a period of payoff that in the end of the day will offset it accurately.
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Come to live in the "Golan" heights in North Israel and absorb green mentality (and snow from the "hermon" mountain during the winter) ???☃️❄
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Another great article I just found: https://www.mindful.org/how-to-avoid-the-trap-of-self-improvement/
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Turquoise emerges when you start to understand, that even though that meditation techniques and self inquiry and all spiritual training are absolutely nessesary things and crucial for development, still, you will have to be flexible enough to drop them all (to significant time at the day) and let your mind wandering back to every prior stages stuff - friends, family, sport, culture etc. that you won't even want to do spiritual things becuase all your emotions, and motivations, and thoughts (the deep subconsious brain) have already wandered to other topics. Its crucial to shift the "want" state from topic to another. It must be emotional and sub-consiouse shifting (and not mainly consiouse embracing like it was in yellow!). I feel these days after a backlash i had (still not fully behind me) that I must develop myself to this place. That kind of flexible you have to be in order to be turquoise. Train your brain to really be within many 'ideologics'/topics (healthy sides) during the day. Of course shifting will require consiouse work. especially in the start. yellow doesnt go anywhere! Consiouse Spiritual work doesnt go anywhere and you will keep doing it too. Not just understanding their significance and embrace them consiousely like in yellow, but really become them as exactly the same intensity and authentisity as you were in the spirituallity topics because you will want to!! Meditation althogh is maybe crucial in the way up to turquoise - is NOT turquoise (95%+ of the time) even though it helps mobilize you to there. The flexibility must get you out of meditation and consiouse spirituality things in order to be turquoise. Turquoise is just melting yourself - like an ice-cream which melts in the sun - back into society, and let you loose back into it! sprituallity and systemic thinking (of yourself and other things) is included in this of course, but only one part. It may said that only than the duality of spirituality and non-spirituality things is collapse and you get Spirituality. If you have OCD/anxiety/depression/milder mental things but still not easy (99.9% of population) you can't beat them in yellow. Yellow can help very much, but not enough and you will get to the point you will must come back to Nature and the healthy sides of the ego because ego is important too and let yourself loose into society/family is also very important. Surrender to the dependence (mostly in healthy ways, because you are not in tier 1 stage) and to the support of family/friends and let them lead you too. Surrender to culture 50% of the time, when you, without thinking of it - a very good example of healthy version of how to manage in life and thats will help other people develop too. "The healing trap" video of Teal Swan is barilliant and a must-see:
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? I think that maybe more mindfulness in the good days is nessesary in order to take the good waves in proportion and than the bad waves will shrink (hope that...)
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Thats what i think turquoise is. The yang of the actualized yin.
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That the point that i dont think it will get that down again because i believe i beyone it and i have learned and every time I surprised again when the down comes.
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Quite amazing... So when it get down I will interprate this like a very bad feeling, and your mind will disguise it to any content it want (fear of something or low self esteem or think that you are not loved enough or any other escuse) to show you that you are down. Thats what happening to me.
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Almost never happened to me. Maybe to a few seconds. But in the base state of how the mood works (without the accumulated effect of the spiritual training. Say i have not trained meditation ever) it works like I wrote at the topic starting message? What do you think? Last days I had an insight about the meditation and I started to do it in a new way in a very smooth form of "watching". I even dont know how to explain it it feels like a new ability that I have not had before in the 3 years I train. Hope it will help
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After almost 3 years of mindfulness and meditation its still feels terrible during the bad periods. Like living in a cage. Fortunately its much better today than 3 years ago (bacause the negative waves are much shorter) but still when there is an attack of intrusive tough or feeling - it is still feels very hard at the moment.
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What helps you the most? I do the "Do Nothing" method a lot when i have days like this, but today the bad feeling refused to pass. Nothing 'external' happened in my life, its just the inner anxiety that appeared today.
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*many times* troughout the day, and press the brakes everytime i have an urgh "to do something" and do it slowly - I hope all of this will reduce the anxiety and build my brain to be more calm. I response in a soft way every time the ego tries to push me to do things to allign with my goals and agenda in life - i didnt listen to the ego and instead did it slower end etc. but this week i have strong backlash and more anxiety! And I see that the "soft responsing" and "Do nothing" method many times a day all of this - dont work! I confused and dont know what to do. Maybe it sounds naive but its not that i dont do other things i well. I do. I work. I do sport. I work on my singing. But i expected that "do nothing method" in high doses will improve my emotional state but this week is just very bad in my emotions without any external 'logic' situation that can explainedl it.
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So we have to de-constract the duality of spirituality and ego, to Spirituality (with capital S. I adding now a new one to Leo's duality videos) which incorporates, alternately, the ego too!:) Its 'just' a new nonduality insight, but for me its a Hugh one. I glad we talked.
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@Fishy @Mu_ @Nahm Not easy but i'll try and update
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Nivsch replied to Nivsch's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Maya_0 @Rilles @OctagonOctopus good points. -
Nivsch replied to Nivsch's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
? i'll try -
Nivsch replied to Nivsch's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Mulky the pure sensation - yes. The worse sensation (as a result of reaction to it) - no nesseserily. -
@Jamie Universe @Rigel @Truth Addict @Waken ? ?
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great thanks!!
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Thanks a lot. your answer is great and very resonates with me. You say that doing also what the ego wants - will help me grow more efficiently (because more basic needs are fullfiled)?
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Yes its true I agree, but there is a trap here. Because if you listen all the time to the toughts and do wha they want you to do (to allign with your agenda) the cycle will be preserved and always return and you will never be able to really relax. And in the other hand, if you won't listen to the ego agenda, and to it in a more calm way, the ego will be alarmed and you will have more anxiety (thats what you said in the first message). So what to do? Im a bit confused.
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Nivsch replied to Nivsch's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What you exactly do? -
What do yo mean by 'on edge'? And what things you supposed to do? Can you give an example?