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Don't take it personally. Maybe I was wrong. I donk know you. I am taking it back. It is very hard to deal with injustice Israel is going through now and I feel part of that.

Trigger warning. Very hard to listen. Only If you want to understand the full brutality of hamas 🕸🌋🦇🏰 listen to this. The video in the link below. Think carefully if you want that. And if you are sure then open it. Peace isn't possible without defeating hamas first. 1 2 3 4 5 https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy-6_hLtmNu/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

You are underestimate the intelligence of identity even national to one's healthy emotional development. Yes, the identity that YOU yourself will create independently of your culture is the most important one, but everyone has to start from something and want to feel part of something bigger than them that they contribute to and have influence on.

@Twentyfirst Your suggestion really can be seen as an innocent and that comes from good intention. But in the other hand it is clear that you are emotionally very biased towards the palestinians and don't take Israelis emotions seriously.

@Twentyfirst Israelis are also alive and have their home from childhood. If you choose to speak so practically then do it fully.

@Twentyfirst Because Jews have deep historical and emotional connection to this land from thousands of years ago.

Oh.... 🤔 So the occupation of the West Bank is not the real problem. But the occupation of Tel Aviv is. Thank you. Now I know that Israel is wrong because it exists.

Its Ben Gvir and Betzal'el. This government is unresposible and there is not much we can do right now. Now you cannot expect any Israeli to say anything like that for the next few months. Israelis are traumatized right now similarly to what happened to americans in 2001 and everyone is just thinking how to be protected and thats it. Of course if something very serious will happen and settlers will kill innocent paleatinians our politicians in the opposition (but not only) will speak against it and also more Israelis, as happened in the past.

RED-blue most of them. In west bank they are more diverse from red, blue to less orange and some green especially millenials and z-gen.

@Leo Gura I understand they are in a difference place in their mentality (stage red) but maybe thats exactly why no matter what Israel do, they will interpret it as a weakness.

They could use all the millions $ they recieved from qatar (with israeli permissom) and the money the gazaish people gained from work in Israel (also with Israeli permission) and invest it to become singapore.

Personally I have no problem with stopping the expansion. Do you mean also to evacuate all the isolated settlements? Because this is almost unrealistic to evacuate 100,000+ people. And what about IDF presence in the west bank? After what happend, I fear that If IDF will leave the west bank, it might be too dangerous long term for the Israeli citiziens. The west bank border is huge and we doesnt have enough force to defende it properly, and we have seen the value of technology when 1000 terrorists are trying to get in.

The question is what we can do differently that will help? Because we got brutal terror attacks anyway, when we went fully forward them and when we didn't.

I agree with this. And in the other hand, when we did the opposite and tried really hard to negotiate with them, also then, the answer from them was even more terror, especially during the decade after Oslo agreement in 1994, which resulted in more than 1000 murdered here, and all that without Netanyahu's help.

By decades long policy do you mean the occupation of the west bank? But didn't the evacuation from gaza in 2005 was the best gesture Israel could do for the paleastinians there? Why did the palestinians rejected all the proposals and agreements from Israel to retreat to 67' lines during 90's and 00's? Can it be a reasonable option that, maybe, the occupation of just ISRAEL in 48' is really enough to fuel the palestinian resistance and terror?

This is Israel's fault who cause the palestinians to build this hospital in the first place because of their attacks on gaza

@Karmadhi well, hamas uses them as human shield. But lets only accuse Israel and fall into hamas hands.

@Tobia Oh... no matter what we do this is never good enough 😇

@lina There are minority of settlers that really do terror and have to be putted in prison on murder.

@Tobia And also as long as we give them too much independence 😉 as we saw in october 7th.

@Lila9 And after what happened, and given the length of the borders around west bank, the inevitable conclusion is that we cannot defend those borders properly if hamas will grow there freely without Israel precence in the field. Now this is clear that an independent palestinian state in west bank is not an option anymore.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy4MVMct8N9/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== If this isn't make your blood boil you are the problem. Edit: They FAKE their deads in this video the link doesn't work. They cover people and they are moving inside. #pallywood 🧕🎬📽📸

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@lina hamas uses civilians as human shield all the time. This is his #1 strategy. This is the every terror organizatiom #1 strategy because he knows he is weaker than military. This is in terror DNA to use civilians as human shield.

@zazen There is zero chance I can convince you that those civilians are asked to leave 100 times and Israel is trying to target only terrorists as much as it possible. I know where your emotions are. This is not gonna change only because I say something. But try for even one minute to think what would you do if ISIS would invase your home town you grew up from childhood and kill and torture 1,200 people from YOUR childhood hometown families and friends.