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This conception has been tried and proven wrong and backfired again and again when it comes to the palestinians. You dont know how much work-permissions Israel gave them during last years. Thousands. It only did the opposite result.

But what can Israel do differently? The main problem is that without do those carpet bombings to neutralize hamas's traps and hamas's strategical advantage, Israeli soldiers will be sitting ducks in the field.

@Vrubel Even if I try hard, I really can't see another way Israel can go through if the goal is to eliminate hamas.

@zazen The occupation of west bank has nothing to do with hamas-ISIS attack on october 7th in the same way that the occupation of west bank didnt cause the 11.9 attack and all the terror attacks in europe during the last decade. BTW Jerusalem is part of the west bank and because our deep connection to Jerusalem I think it is justified to occupay at least half of the city, so anyway part of the occupation has valid reasons to it if you want to be fair. Actually eastern jerusalem is highly occupied by arabs even today.

I saw yesterday an horrific one which in we see 3 hamas terrorists take one Israeli near the party zone in "reim" to the road side and then shoot him. Exactly like the nazis.

@Scholar We sould invite the UN council to go through some educational visit in the kibbuts and villages near gasa strip. Maybe it will change and develop his mind.

Those voters are all from USA or widespreaded all over the world?

Quite agree with him.

well Said 🙏

Part of them. I bet it is still a minority. There are also Israeli settlers who are very sensitive and developed people.

Yes this is a problem. But from your last couple of messages it seems that you put all the blame on Israel. You can if you want. But this isn't going to get you closer to the truth. And if this is your agenda and where your emotions are, I will not be able to convince you otherwise.

Yes he is a terrorist. But this is an utterly extreme case in here.

@zazen You are right about the violence and the racism of many of the settlers towards the arabs. The occupation of the west bank IS corrupting. Can we leave that land away and stay safe? After what happend I am not so sure.

@Nabd I feel that you believe Israel trying to attack civilians deliberately what shows you dont know Israel logic and mentality. The debate has no value because I won't change your mind. I just hope that this round will be the last one and after we finish hamas Israel won't need to dirt it hands anymore in that polluted swamp and not be responsible anymore for disfunctional population who supported those animals and now they are eating the meal they have cooked.

@Nabd Aid enter now every day to gaza. Hamas tries to block civilians from moving southward, threatening them and even do explosions along the road to make them retreat.

I understand. Do you have a better way to eliminate hamas?

@Breakingthewall there was an information, but the believe system we had about hamas cause us to dismiss it.

@Breakingthewall almost nobody thought hamas is capable of something like this. I dont buy the conspiracy you mentioned at the end.

Those buildings are EMPTY after civilians leave as they were asked by Israel all the time to do so. The goal of the bombing is to change the terrain and the landscape because otherwise our soldiers will be sitting ducks.

@Nabd Do you know that all those buildings are almost completely empty because IDF asked the civilians to leave southward of gaza river to save their lives? Those bombing aiming to change the terrain on gaza and to neutralize the fortrees hamas built and the traps he putted for Israel.

@Nabd Those cities are 70km close to you and from them ISIS terrorists came to you and kill you in your homes. 1,300 of you. Would you do nothing?

@Happy Lizard If ISIS would sluaghter 1300 of your country's people, Wouldnt you bomb mosoul and raqqa in order to later get in troops safely as possible (for your troops) to eliminate him?

It has 100K + 7K commando Israel has 500K + Airforce + other things to use if forced to a corner + USA support. Also you dont know how much our society unify when forced to do so. This is amazing what is happening here today. Every one is just looking to help in any way.

Israel is so much stronger than hamas and also more than any other country in the region because of its culture of learning from every mistake, survival mentality for 75 years and democracy level of development which allows variety of opinions and endless brainstorming. If hamas wants that, it is a suicidal desire.

@HMD That couldnt be otherwise because egypt didnt want to help, and open borders would bring terrorists into israel.