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@Carl-Richard If you can, direct me with questions. I don't know how to explain it in another way.
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Hezbollah together with Assad were both responsible to the intentional murdering of thousands of innocent Soonies during the Civil War in Syria.
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4. No biohacks. No harsh session of "trauma releasing" or any kind of potentially too destabilizing activities from any kind. Everything is done in small or baby steps and according to the person's choices and intuition.
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Some rise in my head that at least negate green and past it: 1.Flexibility 2. Acknowledging everyone's different inner (hidden) logic. 3. Moral principals rooted in Health of mind of one and others as more important than equality.
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I think a real Turquoise community cannot become a cult, but the emphasis is on REAL.
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Indeed both have a deep historically and legitimate connection to this land.
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The fact it isn't coherent is because each stage contains many values and facets when every time you hear only about a portion of it from another thinking discipline that partially copies things it heard from some gurus and not really describes a personal experience. And even when describes a personal insights it uses words it heard from others to make it sounds "high" what creates an eco chamber that limits and narrowen the way the stage is being seen and you left with couple of main streams that constantly repeating their slogans over and over again. Then you see only Islands rather than a rich scale.
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Israel wants to neutrilize the dangerous 'belt of fire' the Iranian regime tries to build around it with its proxies backed by a planned nuclear capacity.
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@Carl-Richard There is a response article that explains why there is no reason to assume metamodernism is the highest Here
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Nivsch replied to Revolutionary Think's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
But if you zoom out even more you see how Israel is forced to be in a constant survival mode due to the environment it found in, when the aggression towards the Palestinians is a fear response. Not a smart one, definitely has to be transcended, but a FEAR driven behaviour! -
@royce Nice projection and nice generalization from him. lets sort it out. Netayahu fails the deal this is true. Smotrich and Ben Gvir hold this government as a hostage because in our method they can collapse the government whenever it does not go according to their ideology. At least 50% of Israelis according to surveys I putted here a week or two ago support a hostages deal as a top priority. I can add them again. Israeli mainsteam TV channels and radio stations talks non stop about the hostages and their agenda is very similar to those 50%+ of the citizens. Alon Mizrahi only exposes his own psychology and not the reality of the issue when he generalize in such gross demonized way. This photo below explains how it works in my country.
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I agree that a trauma like oct7 will have a similar effect, a least in the short term for sure, as seeing in your own eyes a plane getting crushed inside a city you thought of as the symbol of the advancement and your safe life from childhood. But a centrist leaders with ideologically mixed parties in his coalition who will quietly advance this seperation is very possible to my opinion. Actually he came also from Likud but throughout the years became more moderate and leaded the withdrawal from Gaza. Olmert who came after him was Center-Left and the negotiation with the Palestinians in his era were quite serious. This is true. I am not sure it will be possible with todays private security they get, but yeah scary.
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This isn't the agenda of the parties in the Left and Center that are almost 50%. I follow them and hear their activists and voters for years. They are too little time in charge in the recent two decades (almost always Bibi). When they were in charge we have withrawal from Gaza. A publicly signed deal is almost like a betrayl in the eyes of the Right wingers and a leader has to be exeptionally brave to advance it. Me myself wouldn't be brave enough to do this say I would be a prime minister. You know what happened to the last prime minister who talked about peace in the most possible publicly and even romantic warm way. Rather there are movements who talk about how to do the Israeli-Palestinian seperation in a quiet and gradual way.
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Yes but Green demonizes the construct 😝
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@royce Ok then what is the problem with those 5 points you mentioned? Seems reasonable to me that good security is based on hiding information from foreign intelligence agencies as much as possible.
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Depends on which Israel you talk about. The political sector I support (that almost won Netanyahu) wanted two state solution all the time prior to oct7 and even a true peace before the 2nd intifada. From this intifada Israelis cease to say 'peace' but just 'two state solution' / 'agreement' / 'deal' and such.
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Well its really a thing that Construct Awareness can be seen also in this way. Interesting perspective. This is a very loose term that can, apparently, be interpreted in many ways.
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This part sounds interesting. In the other hand the Solipsism or God realization I wouldn't connect to any stage and not so resonate with them. Though the Love thing I embrace. Anyway Turquoise is the stage I think I started to feel moments of here and there and this is why I am passionate to talk about it. But Coral I have never felt yet so I don't want to say anything about a stage I don't feel any experience with, but I will think about your points on it.
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Thanks for thinking seriously on my points too, your summary seems nice to me. The construct aware though is a thing I am not sure about it and don't know exactly where to place it.
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Nivsch replied to Revolutionary Think's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Sorry if you got hurted in some way, this isn't what I meant. This isn't about Muslim people, as we have 1.8 millions of such in Israeli cities and basically in any place here. The problem is not that, but the countries surrounding Israel that were all commited a war against the new country, what took decades to make peace with some of those. The fact those are Muslim countries is mentioned because of the ideological tension that by nature is created when a nation with a different religion is being established nearby them. -
Nivsch replied to Revolutionary Think's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
If we talk in this resolution then I didn't say I agree with the way this government manages the things. I am actually very anti this goverment's ideology. I think the hostages are the most urgent thing. About the war with Hezbollah this is a complicated issue with no clear cut answers. -
Nivsch replied to Revolutionary Think's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Godhead OR understanding you can no longer live by the good faith of others, return back to a land your tribe lived in for an equal amount of time like the Palestinian tribe lived in in order to share this land with them, but then being constantly attacked from inside and outside that you left with no choice but to partially restrict in force some of the other tribe when in meantime strive for a 2 state solution as half of your people believe even after decades of terror it is the right one. -
Nivsch replied to Revolutionary Think's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Godhead Again, this is a Gordian knot of fear and responses. it is harder to understand when you aren't in a constant survival mode as a Ville in a muslim Jungle from the first moment. -
Nivsch replied to Revolutionary Think's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
You apply this also to the opposite direction yes? Can you think about what caused the restrictions to tighten during the years? What about endless terror attacks trials and actual events that lead IDF to go always deeper and deeper into the West Bank? This is a Chicken and Egg problem. -
Nivsch replied to Revolutionary Think's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Raze Yeah far right wing journalists like you added in your links still exist here. As always the west is the responsible