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when I know that some perspectives are obviousely come from lower consciouseness positions. For example - conservatism, racism, anti LGBTQ rights or In his family, boycotting someone, overchasing money, overmaterialism, thinking that animals are less valued than human etc. If I know that Green point of view are (not without limitations but) more superior to materialists or consevative point of view. How can I ever be "multiperspectival" and objectively examine every pov. When I know it feels fake and I cannot really do this, cause I know that materialism and conservativism povs are just lower in consiouseness and less right. Yes, we still need more basics povs to make balanced and healthy life (transcend but include), but still, I really can't see how the almost-hegemonic superiority of green can be broken. The only place I really see the urge nessesity of tier2 thinking is in the individualist plane - self actualization, independent thinking, developing consiouseness of your root issues undelines your anxiety and depression. But in the collective plane i cant be symmetric in the way I examine every perspective. I feel i just know who is more right in political debates. One of the examples in stage yellow video was "yellow person examine both anti and fore slavery before he decide" come on! are we cheating ourselves? Its obvious that anti slavery. There is no REALLY probability to answer differently. LGBTQ full rights obviousely is the right thing. Animal abuse against no animal abuse... of course no animal abuse. "OK but we need to think systemically and not do things to bring ourselves 'conservativism backlush'". Not true in my opinion. If we want green population become yellow we need to just let them do their green things to the edge. Anyway only then they will learn the lessons authentically. therfore to summarize: In the individual plane - tier2 is nessesary. but in the collevtive plane - Just be green and balance it a little bit with the whole system during the time. what higher places we can really get in the collective domain?

What the Taliban and humanism, non-violence, emotional intelligence have in common?? Its like to put olives on a bread with nutella.

@Lento Even IQ of 2000 is still doesn't raise at all the chances to be yellow. IQ is a pure orangic concept ?

That cannot be right in any universe. Taliban in their barbaric ideology are RED-blue. They know how to manipulate trump because they have overlap with trump in red. 0% yellow.

@Serotoninluv @Lento @Aquarius @Nak Khid@Key Elements @Nickyy @remember thanks all 1. Why yellow won't see purple as lower than green? 2. What manipulations he can do? As i know, yellow won't manipulate the system

? Not in whatsapp thats for sure ?

Maybe yes

@Leo Gura I want to show at least an intuition of why it is limited. I said that math is like a machine we input it and gets outputs and again input and this creates a closed loop which makes us overlook intuition, senses etc and dont think for ourselves. And that it like thinking in a closed pipe streams without see outside of these streams. And then I gave them first technique - observing thoughts and emotions (havent publish yet).

@Skanzi thanks! Interesting. But if a therapist is able to find with you the origin of your beliefs than you can both transcend those and really solve emotional issues. I believe there are therapists who do that, but maybe its a minority of them.

@SaaraSabina the questions there are so obviouse ??‍♂️

Yes, yesterday

Actually my goal in the video is not proffessionaled and detailed analyze science, but more in the bottom line general line of that thing, to rise the consciousness of my facebook friends and my youtube chennel (small, yet ?) audience. And im doing ir through introducing the SD stages. Right now i thinking about stage green part B video, and want to show them the problem with materialistic logic thinking and why this thinking cannot solve our root personal problems, and therefore have to go beyond language (what new age's center of gravity wants to teach us). But the problem is that people can write me that "Language is enough and we dont need meditation and self inquiry because there are psychologists and with them you can go deep enough to core issues. So our culture right now is good enough! So you dont have to go beyond language at all."

@wk197 No. I'm 32 and i'm attracted to 18-30 year old boys. And yes sometimes to 17 and 16 but its illegal so i dont try (and also its too much mentally different). I try only 20-30 ages. So what, i'm a phedophille? No. Dont get triggered by stupid toxic definitions and judgments. Is it legal? You love each other and develop each other? Thats it. All the other stuff are nonsense.

@Nickyy but isn't multiperspectival is a yellow quality? Green, for what i know, thinks that the others political povs are less right than him. Which is right ?

@Nickyy yes but about the TRUTH itself, (politically and socialy speaking) green is far above the others. I agree the forcing and pushing is wrong in most cases, but in the other hand if we won't push the orthodox sector to accept gays more (campaigns, social pressure...) many ultra orthodox children will suffer because of boycotting by their family. For example.

In the individual domain i think that tier2 approach is critical to solve personal problems like emotional, and quality of life as a whole. But in the political and social domain I see green as the hegemonic as the truth holder. Like it has 70-80%. And 20-30% to all the rest povs altogether (orange and below).

I did. I lived from spontaneosely, not intelected, very clear political position for couple of years (equality, gay rights, anti orthodox, sensitivity to the weak, animal liberation etc) with arguing with people and all that before i knew about SD and this forum. But thats hasn't made me agree with the conservative/over-capitalist ideas at all. I was very strongly in the green pov and I think it just much more developed than the other views. Therefore i cannot see myself really agree and "integrate" the other opinions because it is not symmetric! Yes we have to balance this with other povs and life condition but its not symmetric at all. Maybe the political issue itself it very limited and perspectives are much more wide thing. But in the political-social domain its clear to me who is much more right and who is much more wrong. Quite clear.

This week I bought the two System Thinking books Leo recommended + a third book of system thinking that had good comments in Amazone (76% gave five stars). I heard twice the colors videos of Leo and read about them from multiple of sites. The book "how to think like Da Vinci" changed your view and behaviour in life significantly?

@remember Can you tell why my post brought you a relief? Nice to hear that I read all you wrote but it hard to me right now to understand what you meant and how you see the things.

@remember I think that the Yellow activism is very paradoxical because if you do social yellow stuff, you actually supresses green activists from becoming yellow in the future because you are not letting them to actually examine their green ideas to the edge and therefore they won't be able to learn from that. If I'm yellow, I Iet green activists to do exactly what they want to do.

Do you have example of what we can do better in political? Because a left-centrists party already exists and it already includs moderate left thinking but with security emphasizes etc.

Start with micro dose of 0.1-0.2g mushroom and then rise no more than 0.1 every 1-4 weeks or more depend on your feeling and intuition. If you want to do it responsibly this is the way.

Its interesting because in MY subjective feeling the all 3 topics are foundamently the same "thing" in their essense. It feels to me connected enough. Of course that from outside it will be seen differently, but again i cant choose one or two above the others. Actually SynOptic is a brand name that covers greatly both meteorology (Synoptic maps - the pressure systems) and personal development and consciousness.

@Leo Gura @Shiva @Average Investor @Knock thanks all! I will go with Niv Sch

@Nak Khid haha less ? i want something short but thanks! I want also one channel