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This thing has happened in the 2000's in some of the sub units within the combatants. There is idiocy and toxic cells everywhere you go all over the world, but you choose to cherry pick those to create toxic symmetry which can happen only in fairy tales between Israel and the medieval barbarism arount it.

You are right. Come visit here and judge for yourself. This is an honest thing to say. We all might be that way if we were palestinians. I want to believe I would be different because even here I hate any herd thinking especially in health and mental health issues, but yes I could be one of them I can't know. I want to believe stage red can look healthier than the palestinians culture. They are not only red (mainly red) but also there is something more there, you can see the cruelty and the roughness in every thing they do also to themselves. There must be here something more like a kind of mental disorder in a collective scale. I think healthy blue is better than broken orange. Thats for sure. Also I think the right frame is "Transcend, include and forget". When orange becomes green he remembers again some blue and purple qualities. But now they get mixed with orange to create a new color but this is not that new except the color. Development I think is realizing things you are in your subconsious ( and the deepest self) to begin with but you just have not seen them clearly before, But also to itself if its unhealthy like you see in the palestinians. Agree. Also in the health and mental health of people being toxicated with victim mentality "because this is how your brain is" "This is genetic so you can only live with it" "Those thoughts are just a meaningless disorder and bring nothing more with them" "Just tame your brain with techniques becuse it is a stupid machine" etc. Agree.

This is what you want to think, but within IDF this is relatively rare. If you want to be taken seriously don't create fake symmetry out of nowhere.

They "resist" themselves too all the time. Groups within the palestinians do resistance and freedom fighting to each other all the time and with the same cruelty. And within a family structure too. Tyranni all the way down.

Wow thats great and so true (the whole message I just cutted the punchline) Like it. You wrote in from your own? Its genius. Zionism here got a new function as a mental frame people use here as often as they breath, to keep them in distance from Israelis and above them, and not confront the fact they are humane exactly like them.

He is great! See this too: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0P33qHNCkk/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

So lucky we have not withdrawal from the west bank because then oct 7th would be considered a tiny event.

Then you will probably like the palestinians TV programs messages if so. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzWrji9Ijfz/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

@zazen The fact Hezbollah in Lebanon holds the same Ideology, so too Iran's regime and Amin El Husseini in 1930's, while they were not occupied by anything, add to that the cruelty the palestinians behave to their own people very often, proves the root of the problem is deeper than Israel, although it holds responsibility to the situation but as a secondary effect. The majority of the work has to be done is an inner work by the palestinians themselves.

@Lila9 I agree. With all that I think Netanyahu is destructive to Israel, there is still no comparison to sinuar which is another dimension. About the palestinians we have to be careful and not to generalize, but surveys show that 65% of them support hamas and 65% of the paleatinians in the west bank support 7.10. The seperation between hamas and the palestinians is therefore a myth. Palestinians are identify themselves with hamas and as you mentioned too, not really because of Israel. But Israel does has the responsibility to not get their condition worse and to help them to heal, and this war, with all the maybe difficulty to say that, is a necessary step towards that although not enough.

@Lila9 Honestly I don't think one can put his revenge emotions aside and just move on, but rather use those emotion in a healthy way as a fuel to become more successful than the other side they want to revenge. The problem is that the palestinians can't see the healthy option and maybe the best way is to awake them to this healthy revenge and inspire them to be like the emirates. It is difficult because it requires them to see glimpses of orange.

The Palestinians leadres and maybe even most of the palestinian people are more passionate on what they feel is their "justice" and their life meaning which is to revenge Israel and destroy it as much as possible. In other words they are more red than blue, and the evidence is that 65% of the palestinians support hamas and support oct 7th according to surveys done in the west bank even, according to Israeli middle east expert I heard in an interview yesterday. Maybe their meaning in life is literally realy to get back their honor as they see it in their mind, and a "state" and an organized life are really too boring to them and not in their interests. I think we can understand better the intuition of it if we think on a 9 year old boy who just lost a wrestling game with a friend or even a fighting in a video game. His life meaning in this phase is only to beat his friends back. Peace is very boring and meaningless at this point. But in the root it is not really Israel's fault. They were that way even in 1930's with Amin El Husseini's ideology. Irans regime is also like this in many senses, so Hezbollah in Lebanon. All of this explain to us that the palestinians (and other arab tribes and groups) revenge emotions are deeply rooted in reasons which are not Israel but created way before it.

Poor europe. Soon Israel will be the safer place to live. Let alone London who seems last month like a formless UN ghost city with no character nor color nor self respect. This is not liberalism. This is radical and suicidal stage green. When they become yellow in the future, I believe that every stage should get permission to express itself in the streets only according to its development and mainly to how healthy it is in the spectrum within his color. Very frustrating the situation today.

😂😂😂 at least pretend somehow and say that "palestinians undergo genocide" or something more devious, but don't be too transparent and shoot yourself in the foot. For your favor I am saying.

Quite heartbreaking. Those brainwhashed children/teens are just posioned for life way before the first airplane of Israel has crossed the border, but on the real tragic the world won't talk. The problems being created to the palestinians in this war are barely 1% or even less in comparison to the real problem above, but Israel actions now are also really the only chance for them to heal in the long run.

At least one can be gay in his home, just not to show it openly in the streets. While in Iran in the other hand this is really scary.

Israeli observers saw hamas's broad trainings near the border but the commanders above them dismissed it as not so important. That wasn't an intelligence problem but probably mostly a paradigm one and a misunderstanding of the enemy's intentions. Is the number 200 correct? Were they indeed peaceful protestors and not violent? This crime was done by a violent group within the settlers. Don't throw it on "Israel" so loosely. A little honesty won't harm.

Again I said that the ever expansion of the settlements is a problem and has to be stopped. What else do you see as a problem? Please try to explain practically. I cannot argue with slogans.

To say "80 years of bullying" is to simplify the picture in a very unfair, and just wrong, way. Israel has fought for its survival for 75 years against 4 Arab countries and sometimes more. But along with that, yes, there were problems Israel did and does until today with the settlements ever expansion that should be stopped at least of a couple of years, to show seriousness to the other side. There are also serious mistakes Israel does in the west bank from time to time and have to learn and develop from them. But Israel doesn't "oppress" the Palestinians nor the Palestinian government but rather co-operate with them to maintain the relatively good security situation in the west bank that the only reason is good and hamas can't take over there is because of that co-operation. The only reason hamas isn't thriving in the west bank is because Israeli soldiers are found IN there. Palestinian's army is mainly hamas and the PLO that in their convenant said Israel has to be demolished. Stage reb-blue 'army' is a terror organization. If you have a better way to destroy hamas in Gaza with less harm to civilians, while its number one strategy is to assimilate among them as much as possible, please explain. Israel has left Gaza in 2005 and from then it became a terror base much worse than it was before 2005. What PLO did to hamas in 80 years that made hamas drop them from rooftops after came to power in 2005?

The end "What do you got? Dua Lipa?" 😂😂😂

Israel gave thousands of work permissions in Israel to Gazans in the last couple of years with the hope it will make them more moderate. Along with more humanitarian steps and it didn't work. Stage red-blue culture thinks in a different langauge and those kind of gestures are not really intersting them. They only use those gestures to survive better physically, but most likely won't change their mind about you just because of this. Amin El Husseini and his supporters in 1930's, Hezbollah in Lebanon, Boko haram in Nigeria, Isis in europe. All of this show us that Israel's acts from 1948 until today are not the root of the problem but only triggers that maybe and likely make the problem worse.

Amin el husseini in 1930's and his supporters also grew up in a concentration camp? Hassan nasralla the head of Hezbollah in Lebanon which its values are identical to hamas? Is Lebanon also a concentration camp? And what about Yaser arafat who came here from the concentration camp Tunisia? What about Boko haram in Nigeria? Palestinian society has an inner disorder. Israel acts can for the most only be triggers that make this disorder worse, but have not created this disorder.

This is not accurate. If Hizbollah which is also a terror organization although bigger, was particiapate too in oct 7th surprise Israel could be in a very serious problem. At the second part you are trying to draw a symmery between Israel and Russia while they are not even close to each other in their values.

No I don't know because Israel does not want nothing as long as its neighbors are quiet. But with terror organization you cannot heal the situation without collateral damage because by definition it acts like a parasite. It would have done surgically at the same way the Kibuttses and villages near Gaza were released during 7-9 oct. In Gaza the situation is different because hamas has built for years fortifications we cannot attack only with troops. Racism only looks that way when the other side doesn't fully convinced you need this racism to survive. But if you must have this racist attitude to survive in a given environment then you are not really a racist. And if you insist you are still a racist even then, then the racism term will loose all of its meaning and purpose. I really don't know. Maybe if would have enough independent thinking to zoom out and to see hamas is more to blame that IDF, and in the day to day life I would be fearful of hamas and have anyway a good reason to hate it.

@kenway Yes to make the civilians put pressure on the terror organization controlling them. Now you will probably ask but is it moral to cause suffering to innocent civilians and I will say that we cannot harm this organization effectively in other ways and you will say that we can. Since we don't know the accurate truth happened, the pheripery of the data will be rounded to fit any side's agenda. But the asymmetry between the two sides's values system is huge to the favor of Israel, that still has the responsibility to keep improving. No point to argue about tactics when you will anyway try to maintain Israel as bad as possible.