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You are right. ❤❤❤

yes. the thing I imagine when I think about "aloneness" its probably not the same thing Leo meant. Thank you ? This topic triggers my anxiety and I am also in withdrawal and healing process please Leo be gentle with me. a hard topic for my sensitive nervous system.

100% so there is also no a first person to be alone. Nobody is alone. Full circle. Lets go the circle till its end without cherry pick.

"I" have now direct experience of an emotion and a thought, and "you" also have one right now. Even is we are interconnected because we are all one deterministic organism there are still billion of experiences right now.

@Nahm I am 100% sure that the "alone" i think of it is not at all the same as the "alone" Leo think of it. Because if the consciousness is different - the word has different meaning too. Thats why its so hard to understand what exactly is being spoken. But what I sure is that I am not lonely at all. This is something else I feel i understand to some extent but not fully obviousely. I will read once again what you wrote as I go back from work. This issue makes me nervous lol

No. My friend who is very consious says that Leo thinks that as a human im not alone but as GOD im yes because we are all one unit. One thing. But as a human - i have experience and my mother has her experience. I will call him here maybe he can ask the question in a more understandable way.

I read all and still didnt understand

@Leo Gura You say that only I have experience and feelings. But my mother and father don't have their own experience because I am imaging them? And me (as Niv) is the only one that has an experience of its own?

@tuckerwphotography Also the more I read about covid vaccine I get the impression that this vaccine because its a new type of vaccine might be more problematic and I do read the whole spectrum of opinions and my impression is not good. Maybe for the old population its justified, but I think humanity will have to surrender and evolve THROUGH this disease in a form of deep perspective shift on the issue, and not by conquering the disease because we won't conquer.

@r0ckyreed Every stage thinks that his thinking is complete and he reached the finish line. What stage coral thinks about this? We still dont know. Which means you can only trust yourself (but do the work). But, its useful to listen to the variety of perspectives. I think more like you in this specific thread.

Or maybe you won't have to because maybe we need 70%-80% of vaccinated people to end the pandemic. Personally I'm going to see what will happen. Right now I have no intention to take the vaccine. I dont see a big enough justification for me to do that.

No. Its not the specific contect, but the attitude and how we make our choice, from a real aware view or because you want to critisize green just to feel you are above it and then you just sound like orange and the conversation regresses because you faked your development, and when I read here covid conversations it sounds like the mainstream attitude and its disappointing. Not this thread. @SS10 thread is good.

Only you know, if you observe yourself carefully. Maybe for you its not regression but in the macro I think there is and its not surprising because this issue creates fear, and it affects in my opinion the conversations here too. And also part of that is just the desire here to look "yellow" in the conversations and to just vaccinate because "I want to throw the ideology" sorry but it sounds rediculous. Its not integral view. its bullshit.

The unproportional fear from conspiracies made people regress to orange, pretending they are more "yellow" and stuff. This drives me crazy. Good to see a positive change in this thread.

Great! Now the color came back to the forums face.

How old are you? Why do you think you cant move up?

I think the degree of independency in your thinking is the main thing that change between the stages.

@Preety_India If it was that simple we wouldnt need self development forums and watch videos. The reason you know what you know now is because you have reached that level. If someone is struggeling with hard conflicts in his head and specific thought patterns he is addicted to, he will not be happy by just sit down. Yes it will help! But wont solve his problem.

To me it happened only when I started to really feel self love and it happened overnight last month and since then I am not the same person anymore it was hugh. I moved from emotional crisis to discover self love in a second. Before that, nothing I heard about self-love helped.

Which is getting stronger as time goes and as quarantine cycles persist. Green believes in reducing the quarantines and have less restrictions while meanwhile we have to eat healthier, expose more to sunlight, do physical activity and trust more our body abilities to fight the virus, while orange believes in more restrictions and what western medicine suggests. personally when I see a facebook friend post the green pov I tend emotionally to agree with him 10-times more because I know how much better green understands in health, but I know that Covid is a complicated story because of the high-risk population and the need to protect them and the higher spreading rate this virus has etc. Also, most people aren't conscious enough to appreciate the importance of natural healthy lifestyle and tend to underestimate its significance, and their chances they will change right now is small. So we have to understand they will not accept green's way but mainly the western medicine, which is gross and have Low-resolution point of view of the human body but requires less energy and responsibiliy from the person. Whats funny is that even though that stage green people sometimes exaggerate in their attitude towards Covid (and sometimes fall into blue conspiracy theories) and overlook the complexity-collective responsibility-stages of consciousness issues - still - most of the people who comments them in facebook and shout on them on their naiveness - criticise them from below! thats what I think. Do you think that the way western world deals with it is a good way or unproportional and the damages from the steps we take are far worse than the damage the Covid can make? Aren't you fear there can be an inflation in how from now on we will see every other virus and so maybe the quarantine cycles and distance keeping will never really ends?

@neutralempty animal agriculture exists for thousands of years. Why that the biological mechanism you mentioned will take so much time to move and only after this long time will backfire humanity?

What do you want the world to do more than it does right now?

@neutralempty maybe ? But why only after 1000 years?

@lmfao thank you and Good luck to you too in your recovering!

Thats the reason.