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I like this approach the only criticism ill say about it from doing it for years is psychologically your in a OCD organisation state. So your going to obses over every detail and make sure your routine is perfect everyday, watching the clock that your eating at the perfect times, getting enough sun (timing sun exposure), drinking 2 litters a day... all very carefully, at exactly 6:30 you'll dim the lights and at 8:30 youll close the lights and go to bed like a robot even when your not tired, take your melatonin and every night pray you'll sleep as you lie down in fear of the next 10 Torturous hours of your life. The next day even if you sleep or not you'll wake at the same time and do it again. You'll have 24/7 anxiety that you made a mistake in the routine. Why this is an issue is it gets in the way of letting go and not caring so much about sleep and just living life. So if we give someone living in a mental prison a sleep hygiene routine or any rigid routine to follow it makes the situation worse. Its also very natural to recommend changes to sleep hygiene but with OCD anxiety minds its unclear that is going to help.

@puporing That's a good point, seems inline with loans importance in the business world. On the point of saving money, when declaring bankruptcy i thought they would come after all your personal assists to pay off the dept?

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belvita? Have you tired white rice?

@Michael569 Thats a great point, theres a beautiful spiritual calming anime called Mushishi that can be listened to audio (dub) only at night, it puts the mind into a altered state imagining and dreaming with the story. I would listen to it in bed when struggling.

@Thought Art If you work full time can you pay off a 10k loan pretty fast?

@Yimpa Cool she is trying to push for change?

Hey man sorry to hear that. I went through 10 years a severe sleep deprivation in my 20s that was then 100% resolved so maybe I can help. The major change that happened is to stop caring if you sleep or not and just accept wtv sleep quality your going to get. Now in the state your in that advice is not going to really help as your sleep confidence is very low with anxiety and dread just thinking about going to bed. But you want to shift the focus on living life and not care about sleep. Looking at the ingredients in belvita its high in things that could potential stimulate you so avoid foods that over stimulate. A good bed time routine is to eat your last meal 2-3 hours before bed and make that meal very large and filling, eat a huge meal. This will change your hormones and sedate you. If your desperate and its the middle of the night try eating a bowl of white rice as this can slow down brain function and knock you out. Look for foods that make you tired not stimulate, also avoid heavy foods like meat and eggs as it can stimulate because the body has to work hard to digest it and finally avoid fasting as it can be very hard to sleep while hungry for some. With a few good nights of sleep your sleep confidence will be restored and you can enter a period of no worries. At some point the insomnia could return, on and off, that's a typical pattern. So again you got to stop caring about sleep and you'll get the sleep your looking for. There are a lot of things that can help you that I didnt mention because personally when I was in the thick of it with a over active mind nothing really worked except eating a huge meal 2-3 hours before bed.

That may all be true, but the people who are putting laws in place do not have this world view. They simply view it as another dangerous drug with no medical or financial use.

@DrugsBunny Why are you behaving this way?

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Possibly you can make porn that is at the same time a teaching tool for all aspects of sex merged with some kind of self-development philosophy?

It doesn't work this way in practice, each case is different the individual is everything and your going to end up with major mistakes using generalized statistics. The data must break down each individual case to develop the correct strategy for diagnosis. How can the data not focus on the most vital components needed to differentiate the individuals? Lets forget statins as they appear to be regarded as the holly grain. The approach of using these generalizations to hedge your bets leads to giving people medication they don't need that worsen there situation. In the other thread Leo made it clear T3 and T4 does not work for him he said because its a systemic issue, but that testimony isn't really taken seriously. When the average person takes medication that don't help them they are far to unconscious to accurately asses that and never get off of it. Random testimony: My aunt at her second pregnancy testes low and was put on thyroid replacement. After that she developed intense panic attacks and her mental health diminished over time. She kept getting retested and they kept increase the dosage to keep her in range. Her life was absolutely destroyed by this approach. A very similar situation happened to me and when I explained to the doctor that I was 100% sure the thyroid hormone was causing my panic attacks as I'm highly stable person that have never had a panic attack before in my life. They told me i was crazy, pointed to there diploma hanging on the wall, explained how ranges work and literally yelled me out of there office fully offended that I challenged them, This happened twice in person and is happening again on this forum. I got off the medication, the daily seizers reduced every day over a period of 2 weeks until it completely stopped and I went normal. I got retested many times and my thyroid hormone is perfectly fine. I only experience seizers during the period I was taking it, so i know it was the medication, i also experienced a many bodily changes and health problems because of this event that cant be reversed. So then why was I initially put on thyroid hormone? Because 1 time I got tested and it was low so they put me on it following there guidelines. This kind of thing is happing at scale and why there is a over prescription epidemic. I told my aunt that her thyroid medication was causing the panic attacks and she of course said "I trust in doctors". The other day at 60 my father who gets tests every 2 weeks for years tested low once in 45 years, they of course instantly put him on replacement hormone.

I didnt want to derail that other topic. Last night I had a thought about this and wanted the practitioners on the forum perspective on it. If we generalize like this "statins have the ability to reduce the risk of major cardiovascular events up to 10% in primary prevention and 5% in secondary prevention over 5 years" For the 80%-90% of people where statins lowered cholesterol but the patients still suffered an event, how do we know statins didnt make the situation worse for them? What if its a bell curve where some patients who have the correct genetics benefit from statins up to 20% of the population while 60% it did not benefit them and 20% it made there situation worse? But studies focus on risk reduction so it will show a 20% reduction in cardiovascular events but ignore or not track the patients whos situation got worse, its a blind spot? Are there any studies that do the reverse and check risk increase by removing the patients that benefited from it? Also if the issue is systemic and cholesterol is not the issue, why are we focusing on reducing cholesterol? About half of all patients who have cardiovascular events have normal to low cholesterol.

I dont disagree. Im pointing to other parts of the picture. Nothing about what i said is advocation for alternative treatments. The average person only realizes chemo comes with major long term complications after they survive the treatment. That does not mean they shouldn't do chemo, what I'm saying is surviving cancer is not a fairy tail.

How is a general statement like this useful at the individual level? For some people at the individual level statins did not reduce there risk and could of exasperated the problem by increasing stress hormone. Where is the data on this?

Yes but out of the 79% of people who did not benefit from statins, what did statins do to there bodies and what percentage of them statins made there situation worse? What percentage of people in does studies did statins have no benefit and gave them debilitating symptoms, is it around 21%? There is a bell curve and we are only looking at risk reduction, meaning we only look at the one part of it. How do we know for 21% of people statins changed there hormones that then changed there eating habits or exercise habits causing a multifactorial change in there life style. Why did some people benefit and not others? Did statins cause behaviour changes for some people that then reduced there risk? If we give someone caffeine and nicotine supplement what is the risk reduction? There are endless experiments we cant conduct because its not ethical enough to conduct them because participants will need to die from ineffective treatments.

When a doctor destroys your life you'll stop putting authority figures on a pedestal. Also Chemo ages every cell in the body. His life specifically brain function will never be the same and the result of the DNA damage will slowly show up in the next 10 years.

@Michael569 Great talk, I love these guys. Im not getting one part, he goes in great length to explain how ApoB is a better risk assessment and has a very detailed explanation of how it all works, they seem to have good case to transition and advance the industry to move in this direction. Then at 1:08:52 they discuss people with normal to low risk assessment for ApoB but still contract Atherosclerosis young and have events young, he then say "I don't know, this is where research needs to be done". That would then mean his model of how and why Atherosclerosis happens within the human body is incomplete. Something is causing the ApoB protein to bind to the artery walls for some people and not others. That is what needs to be figured out, there is no model to be made with out this piece of the puzzle. The discussion about the guidelines was fantastic. The only criticism I have is they are 100% focused on data, studies, scientific evidence that represents the tip of the iceberg of known information on these topics. As far as I'm concerned no real effort was put into any of this yet, minimal innovation, the financial incentive is not aligned with health yet and until that happens there will be no real advancements in knowledge or technology. Its the stone age of health care. The tools they have to work with is abysmal and they lack the imagination to see how behind there tools are and the industry is. Create a machine that can see everything in the blood and display it in an app, on the app select the things you want to filter out and hte machine will filter out only does compounds. The application for this would be a endless, completely revolutionize health. Instead we have a archaic dialysis machine. INOVATE, DO SOMETHING! We need better tools. There is a multi billion dollar untapped consumer health care boom around the corner. Where is the innovation and creative thinking? There spending all there intelligence micro progressing a sub field of a sub field and then publish a research paper on it. Instead of focusing on the 10x to 100x improvements we could be making in this domain. The ball cant start rolling yet because the people attracted to health care careers are ISTJ and ESTPs and they love there comfort zone. Once the health care technology boom really starts to take off vai the incentive of consumer products more intuitive types will move into the domain rapidly progressing things.

In that situation agree with her.

@RebornConsciousness ?So good

On this topic is it possible that the reason chemotherapy works is because its a very effective way to get people to stop eating and fast? There so sick they don't eat and so kills cancer and the patients that eat normally don't show any improvement?

@RebornConsciousness He even waved for the camera, these insects have quantum entangled minds, incredible

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Ive never seen that, id love to see that