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Do you believe that woman didnt experience a life of many tragedies and suffering? How did she come out of it feeling good?

So why is her experience of predeterminism positive while yours is all negative?

Its not illegal in your country, so why would you call the cops? But I get it, it should be. Solution is to rent the apartment under hers and spray fart gas up the pipes into her apartment all day 24/7. See how she likes it. The person she was dating convinced her to smoke in the garage that was 2 steps away redirecting the smoke outdoors to stop the conflict. For 6 months of non-stop conflict it never occurred to her to do this, it was more important that she "got what she wanted" then live in harmony with others and drastically simplify her life. They are to dysfunctional to make basic simplifications to make there lives easier.

1 + 1 = 2 when its closer to 1 + 1 = infinity so it doesn't account for paradox. What is dog spirituality, thats the questions :D.

Can you give example of people thinking like this?

What i mean by fate is not to assume your rational mind that is doing "logic" has it ALLLLL figured out. Trans-rational needs to account for paradox, that the rational mind cannot linearly think its way to.

I don't think there is a highest point, as its spirituality interpreted from where they are at in there development. At all times, including every absolute Truth and absolute Oneness story that is being interpreted after the experience. I agree its not mappable 1 to 1 with existing models but how else are we to communicate the differences in development? Aren't you also at a development and communicating from that interpretation? Do you feel like your Truth is the truthiest truth? lol

Orange spirituality is so incredibly emotionally immature. Orange doesn't have a high enough vantage point to see how emotions justify the rational thought. Stuck with only the rational tool you drive your mind into a cage of nihilism. Have some faith for once.

Are you experiencing solipsistic depression? Alot of what your saying is a story that is interchangeable with any other story. So what your saying is, it seems like im loving things non-spontaneously, but in reality because there is no free-will it was a scripted event. So that does not change the fact that at any time a scripted non-free will event can happen that makes you love an enemy and that scripted event can happen 10 seconds from now if you "DO IT". The conversation is being derailed because you want to talk about how there is no free will from the absolute perspective. That in practicality useless and not part of this topic. Practically you can "DO" things freely or not and get happiness from it. You CAN change your perspective of anything free will or not. It can happen. Everything is changing constantly all the time scripted or not and so will you change inevitably.

I can sit here and think about anyone in a flattering way and feel positive love emotions. Its not out of my control, roll of the dice pure luck, gambling casino odds. People love things that benefit there ego human survival agenda and hate everything else and it takes a leap in self-development to love beyond ones agenda.

Are you talking about infatuation? Because that's a misconception of love or if we put love on a developmental scale. Infatuation over a first GF madly in love is like stage 3 love? lol The capacity to love beyond your survival agenda is stage 6 love? lol There are stages to this that human progress through.

You put your self in there shoes, understand there entire life and its trajectory from birth till now with out personal bias, understand that a person is the synthesis of many factors most of which not in there control and then empathy is born. Basic self-development concept. I think your confusing the absolute from the relative.

Maturity. That is the prerequisite to start a serious spiritual journey. With out a good foundation of the fundamentals of self-development and self-help your basically going in to a war zone painted bright yellow with a red target on your head. Everyone needs to start with serious self-development and inner growth NOT spirituality and advanced tools like psychedelics.

Is he? Its the most basic spiritual concepts every Turquoise guru talks about. 99% of people need spirituality thought to them from the lens of yellow not turquoise. Most gurus only communicate from turquoise and it goes 100x over peoples heads.

@SQAAD Im sorry to hear that, I know how fustrating that is, ive had the exact same experience except the smoke was directly in my bed room while i was sleeping. I snapped and confonted her for 6 months until the situation was resolved. Maybe tehre are a few ways to salvige that situation. Is it illigal to smoke indoors where you live? If it is then you can call the cops and press charges (money). Can also keep the window open in the bathroom 24/7 to ventilate. Can also get a good HEPA activated charcoal air purified (money).

Are you guys compatible other then the physical attraction issue?

I have that same fear but its getting easier the more i experiment with psychedelics. I think its a matter of consistence practice but as ive not overcome it yet I really have no idea, maybe someone else can give some insights into this.

Im living the same pattern. Many games ive had to stop playing and delete. I can only play games with low intensity like Viewfinder or Portal, where you can take your time. When a game involves keeping the main character alive, that creates stress and pressure to avoid failure. There is a desire not to die and that resistance causes stress response in the body. Accept failure and there is no stress, but the issue is performance drops with lower reaction time and worse results. Basicly your trying to relax in bed and at the same time survive while fighting for your life in the wild (game) lol. Its not possible.

Suffering and Love is to a human like Water and Sunlight is to a tree. Suffering is the negative interpretation of pain. Pain is experience, suffering is a choice or one interpretation of that experience. Ask the masochists. I think most of the time its not realistic in the moment to change it other then basic self help like changing the room your in like going for a walk. In practice overwhelming suffering has to be experienced, then integrated over and over again until it doesn't bother you as much. Not sure i understand this, but i think suffering is intense mostly because its being resisted, when you stop resisting it then intensity calms down.

I have, it happened 3-4 times in dreams across my life. Im looking at something mundane then i realize with 100% clarity that what im looking at is not what i thought it was, it and everything i know gets re-contextualized to something I cant understand and have no reference or ground to understand it, I loss all ability to understand or recognize anything. There is a huge panic and i run to the nearest person for help hoping they can save me (like a child running to there mother for help, OMG MAMA!). Then I wake up in bed. Ive also experience insane vibration states on LSD as you describe. Non of these things do i understand lol. --- The title is misleading, you are getting valuable insights about the nature of reality with these experiences. Maybe contemplate and integrate them.

Focus on the yellow stuff, models, self-development, recontextualization, survival, making distinctions, how learning works, new perspectives how to think outside the box. Never speak of the god stuff. I met a spiritual girl who was stuck at green looking for deeper answers, so i sent her leos 9 stages of ego development. I met a random guy at the park who liked talking about politics so i sent him leo conscious politics video. Make it relevant to there interests and close to there level of development.

Sounds like religion.

Got to focus on gamifying biology. Its not going to happen with mental work and thinking about it until something happens. The mind is a combination of many factors. Sleep quality, daily exercise, nutrition, gut microbiome, gut health (parasites, leaky gut), air quality, genetics, life experiences (child hood, adult hood), habits (breathing), daily activity (intensive video games, quality socializing) ... +++ Its a multi faceted problem, so you need to approach this from every direction all at the same time.

@KatiesKarma Have you tried daily consistent intensive exercise?

Maybe you grew up and dont understand it? Crying genuinely is to be completely convinced you are the character. Full self-deception. It can also be that your to self-aware, so your watching and analyzing yourself cry, its a over thinking issue, instead of feeling it and playing in the arising sensations. When a feeling comes up, feel into it deeply with out destroying it with thought.