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@Sugarcoat anything that changes one’s state of mind can be used for seeing things from a new perspective. but it’s better to avoid things that damage the body.

@RendHeaven I was inspired by your steelmaning approach. chathpt Emerald presents a strong counterargument to Leo’s perspective, but she does not fully steelman it. Instead, she critiques it through the lens of psychological defense mechanisms and human connection needs. Where She Represents Leo Fairly: • She acknowledges that Leo’s perspective comes from a place of deep contemplation and personal experience. • She recognizes that solitude can be meaningful and fulfilling. • She agrees that phases of socialization and solitude can be beneficial. Where She Misrepresents or Fails to Steelman Leo’s View: 1. Framing Social Withdrawal as Avoidance – She suggests that Leo’s perspective might be an unconscious defense mechanism, a way of avoiding social connection rather than a genuine transcendence of it. Leo, however, presents his position as a conscious evolution beyond socialization, not an avoidance of it. 2. Conflating Forum Participation with a Need for Connection – She argues that Leo (and others like him) still seek connection because they engage on forums. However, Leo’s view could be that intellectual discussion is different from typical socialization—it’s about exchanging deep ideas rather than fulfilling a social need. He might see online discussion as an extension of contemplation rather than an admission of social dependence. 3. Implying Superiority-Seeking Behavior – She suggests that intellectual men often isolate themselves due to a desire to feel “more developed†or “superior.†While some people may fall into this trap, Leo’s argument is about meaning, not hierarchy. He claims solitude is more meaningful for him, not that it makes him superior to others. A True Steelman of Leo’s Perspective Would Be: • Recognizing that socialization and solitude serve different psychological and spiritual needs. • Accepting that some individuals find deep contemplation inherently more fulfilling than social interaction. • Acknowledging that solitude, for someone like Leo, is not about avoiding people but about seeking a higher form of meaning. • Understanding that not everyone needs socialization in the same way, and that transcendence of social needs is at least possible, even if rare. Emerald provides a thoughtful critique, but she views Leo’s position as a form of repression rather than a legitimate alternative way of being. A better counterargument would address his ideas without assuming a hidden psychological motive.

https://www.actualized.org/insights/understanding-solitude Blog

@Emerald I don’t think Leo denies a need for human connection, his blog post does not suggest that. A need for human connection when all socializing is shallow is part of the twisted nature of a life. Socializing online like the forum is more like a chess puzzle where you have to find the best solution and not about the connection. And chess puzzles are super addictive. He may be socializing, but it doesn’t mean he’s socializing 😌. There are also many other incentives for him to be here.

If you read this thread without any context you would think he won the Nobel prize. 😅 I didn’t know MOD status was this prestigious. @Davino welcome 🙏

https://chat.qwenlm.ai/ It's able to generate very high quality videos for free, better than a lot of paid stuff I've used.

Ok guys lets see your biological age and athleticism. 😁 I'm sure all that spirituality counts for something.

@112233 he was triggered, it’s ironic to criticize someone else’s social perspective,, but to do so with very ineffective social strategy.

@ShodburritoI agree with many of the things here. But the final point you’re making is that genuine connection is possible with everyone all the time. And it’s not. Most of the time people are closed off and you need to rip them open with good vibe. And that doesn’t work all the time. There’s diversity here. It’s not just black-and-white. That I’m suddenly loving every conversation because I’m awake. There are endless books, teaching people how to socialize, for a good reason because if it was easy, these books wouldn’t exist, People are conditioned into role-playing ego games, and they socialize with a specific meta language that everyone is blind to.

@Shodburrito acting is hard. It makes socializing really tedious. I have to follow a long list of arbitrary social rules that people have unconsciously collectively constructed to play ego games with. The dance of the ego is as clear as day when I socialize. So what I would rather do with someone is sit there and design a better rule set for which to socialize. And then play that game with them. The point you’re making are good, but they don’t apply to everyone. I’m not gonna emotionally enjoy socializing more in the future, but some people they’re awakening enhances their social experience. Everyone is different..

@Emerald that’s a great point, I found myself in this kind of situation in one of my previous relationships, and later in a new relationship, I set better boundaries, but in the end, it was impossible to keep those boundaries because the girlfriend was never healthy enough to respect them to begin with. I think a lot of people finding themselves in abusive relationship relationships don’t really have a way out of it other than ending it because the abuser is incapable of a healthy relationship to begin with no matter how much couples counselling they do. Many can’t grow while in the relationship because they’re stuck in a toxic frame with their partner. So they need a break up to refresh and reset.

@M A J I kids in school have mob mentality. They mostly grow out of it past high school. I’ve also had experiences of the entire school, rallying against me for some random thing that they thought I did, No one bother to have any scepticism to look into what actually happened, a rumour spreads and that’s it. Everyone tries to punch you in the face in the name of “ justice”. This is why they invented the justice system. Where you’re innocent until proven guilty, an ingenious technology. And this is why it’s important to follow healthy procedures when bullied by reporting to higher officials. It avoids mob witch hunts.

Sitting on the floor legs infront of you, hands touching toes or past. Hamstring burn.

Evidence videos is a great idea, maybe we can host weekly tournaments. @freddyteisen I heard you had skill? I also heard Leo is gonna do an actualized chess tournament. Us in the Health sub category have to step up our game or else we cant compete. 😁

You have to synthesize everything you learn, think, and experience into a coherent model of reality. It’s not about believing what other people say.

World War I and two and everything horrific in between? lol my man just be lucky you’re not in chronic physical pain, the world is about to change into the era of AI and you will never have to work a day in your life after that. The situation with Trump is pretty bad, but it was unlikely you were gonna be able to go your entire 100 your life without a world changing event. As long as you get a good skill that pays decently well so you can do that comfortably for a while. You should be fine. Go into finances.

4 years???? The internet will be replaced by then with the AI trump network. 😌

I’m gonna make a Leo AI, maybe even integrate it into the forum with an extension. Maybe we can have an AI sub category where we chat with Leo AI

What’s good about these opinions is we will know the truth in 4 years.

That’s the scaries headline I’ve ever read.

AI will surpass and has already surpassed many professionals at image recognition and diagnosis. It’s going to be more reliable than a human. Especially in the next couple years.

It’s something like waking up from a dream. A bunch of crazy things happened in the dream that make no sense and when you wake up, you realize it. Death is waking up from this dream called life. Which, of course you also realize death was imaginary the whole time. Which you also realize dream and Real are the same things.

Not for long, the Republican Party has a high chance of winning the next election.

So you’re saying I should invest in shovel manufacturers. One of the things is whatever Trump does people have to adapt to it. Got to find the opportunities and be a part of it.