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YA OK. you're confusing sadguru for high consciousness. High consciousness involves a lot of diversity. Not only will you not purify anyone, they will drag you down to their level. Being exposed to other people's chronic chaos is not healthy no matter how developed a person is. It's like being punched in the face every day and thinking that you're so spiritual and you could take it, and all of that is a spiritual trap. The most loving thing to do is get far away from them. It's because you're in the bubble so you're not realizing, it's exhausting work dealing with more people. More people more problems.
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@LordFall the position you're holding is that the liberal pick up culture entanglationships is perfectly hip and cool and we could all do it and Kumbaya. And it doesn't work at practice. The hippies figure that out a long time ago, none of that works, when it does it's rare and you need to be uniquely designed for it. And surgically find people who are also uniquely designed for it. The problem with the points that you made is that you're pointing at the very very small minority of people who can actually pull this off in high consciousness way. First there are very few high consciousness people and even within that group very few of them want to participate in the lifestyle that you're asking for, nor is it necessary or would they want to. High consciousness does not mean you're open to all sexuality and suddenly all your preferences are gone. It is not about development. It doesn't matter how developed you become you're not gonna become less monogamous. If anything you become more monogamous because you're more easily satisfied with one person and you have the wisdom not to play this chaos game of entangling with all these people. Most people are unhealthy and you're entangling yourself with so many people that it makes no sense, it's the opposite of what a high consciousness person ends up doing, most of them choose to be alone. When you become consciousness enough, you choose to be alone, instead of dealing with the chaos of other people. It's the opposite, real bonding is not attachment. It's to maturely at a distance Take responsibility for someone other than yourself. Pick up cultures brain only takes responsibility for themselves, and codependency is to depend on someone else for your happiness. Which is what most people with pick up culture brain are chasing. They can't sit with themselves for 30 seconds they have to constantly get the next high.
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I'm not talking about morality, we're not judging anyone. There's body count from the lower perspective were you judge them as disgusting and you have a bunch of emotional problems towards it. And then there's just understanding it from the higher level, which is these people have characteristics that you don't really want to date them. It's about what is practical. Would we want to date someone with BPD, ideally no. Are we judging them, no...
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That's just hook up culture. Nothing wrong with it if that's what you enjoy doing. The conversation was about why someone wouldn't want their partner to have hook-up culture brain. And it's because hookup culture brain is not partnership brain.
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I agree the approach im going with is years of trial and error until the game is refined. Exactly, Leo was right that it's a massive grind, especially towards the end, where there's endless things that you never considered that have to get done and it's pretty exhausting, and then on top of that you have to do all the marketing and all the social stuff integrated. You're right that people have to just go for it and expect that it's going to be hard. Knowing how to make a game fund is pretty intuitive because we played games our whole lives, but getting it to be fun is pretty hard and a artistic challenge
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@Valach It's not only that at the same time a whole life revolves around relationships, all that is cared about is relationships, when one finishes, there is a rush to the next one. It's like there's nothing else going on in life. It's a person that's chasing the next high. At no point is a person alone with themselves to even figure out what is meaningful in life or what should be pursued if there's anything other enjoyable that should be pursued. Every 10 people they meet is entanglement in their chaos. Developed people are selecting their partners carefully and won't allow other people to interfere with their stability and way of life. If someone is just sleeping with everything that moves then they don't value their own time because they don't enjoy it. Not being able to sit still for 30 seconds and having to rush out to go do something to stimulate oneself is a illness
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Perfectly it's a great example, how many years did it take to get to that number of partners?
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This is a fantasy, that's not how people get to 100 partners. We're talking about the real world here
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Having a new partner every month for 10 years straight to get to the super high body counts means you're not good at bonding. Or maintaining relationships or you have major trauma like there's so many things involved. Nothing about this is healthy.
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That doesn't mean some of them weren't true, and it is certainly what every man feels For a woman to have sex with 100 men, they would have to have a new sexual partner every month for eight years. That doesn't sound like stability or a partnership. If I was investing my money somewhere, would I pick an unstable stock that crashes every month? Hoping that this time it's going to be different? That I'm not gonna lose all my money. If a company releases 10 products and all 10 products fail within a month and then they announce an 11th product that's about to come out, would I invest in that?
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It represents partnership, people want a partner not a fuck buddy or a roommate. It represents trust, can i trust someone that needs all the "freedom", nope. It represents commitment, does that sound like a responsible commitment person? nope. Do they sound like there going to have your back and you can have theres? NOPE. Are they going to give your money to some other man? Probably. Do they sound like a team player or are they going to jump to another team any time? Probably. 100+ body count represents -> unstable -> low value. --- Do you know how hard it is to have sex with 100 people before your 30? You need to be finding a new person every month... this is a mental illness.
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Realistic path: rich get richer Optimistic path: AI flattens the Playing field
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LOEE??? I made a game engine from scratch in C++ 15 years ago, i wrote ray tracing shaders and did all the quaternion math 💪 The Reason I said slay the spire can be built is because: it won't have a physics engine. Basically the whole game is one big UI 1 gameplay page (combat). That consists of a couple of characters and 2d animation that have easy to map fixed movements. It's offline and solo single player. It can be built entirely with browser tech outside of game engine complexity. Platform to launch: web + mobile + steam, within a simple browser game architecture.
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Im building a game fully with AI right now, but the scope is realistic inside the limitations of AI. A game like slay the spire can be done with AI right now if you know what your doing. Im also from montreal
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LMAO one might or might not of merged my profile pic with the most important wizard beard ever grown.
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It was a good decision, There are certain standards that you should hold yourself to when picking up partner and you should think of them as partners and not someone that's going to give you love. These are very different things A partnership is when two people support each other to build a life together, that involves much more than just receiving love and feeling loved. If you seek the emotion of love blindly you're not going to get the love you truly want
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Okay so that's a definitely a different dynamic. It sounds like they were trying to control you and warp you into what they want to do to be. Were you in the provider role?
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Ah that makes perfect sense, I couldn't understand why no reason works, even when it's like 2 + 2 = 4 the answer is just wrong. The emotion makes it so they have to be right or they rather die. And anything that keeps them right is true. Oh I 100% believe it, I've had knives thrown at me and slapped with absolutely no warning at all lmao Getting slapped out of nowhere without any communication or you not realizing her emotions changed because nothing happened and there's nothing happening. FLMAO so true. As a inappropriate side topic, BPDs tend to be really good in bed. Because they 100% lose themselves in the experience
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wow i had no idea haha, what is the mindset when you know you're lying but the emotion is strong like you're about to die? lmfao
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I think that there's something deeper here that might not be related to the relationships that you had later in life. I grew up in a very healthy family with integrity and receiving kindness was clear when it's done in good faith or not. It's easy to tell. It's possible you had a blind spot here. When someone gives me love I think "i am already full, i dont need more", and I have a sense of obligation to thank them and to give reciprocation and it's always a bit of a drag even though I understand where they're coming from. I'd rather give to them and not have them give to me. I'm here to give. "I don't need what you have nor do you understand what I need." is what they dont understand. Love has to be tailored to the persons needs and very few people understand me to do that, ___ With my first BPD relationship, I was blindsided by not realizing that they were lying with emotional tantrums, and I took all of these tantrums very seriously, and in the end they lied and cheated and did everything imaginable while requiring my 100% commitment and involvement in every single emotion, where every time they had an emotion, it was my full responsibility and problem. I did everything imaginable to help this person and immediately dropped everything to help them whenever they needed me. I still remember all of the lies that were uncovered at the end of the relationship and it blew my mind because I was completely convinced. And I'm not a naïve person. I'm naturally very sceptical of everything people say yet I believed everything that she said. She was so good at lying, people CANNOT imagine, and it was all masked with extremely strong emotions, her emotions were all part of a lie she was telling, but they were genuine emotions and so I couldn't differentiate and I couldn't see the lie. Then I dated a second BPD a while later while fully integrating the first experience, i handled it more like a caregiver would, like a parent with a child. I provided the self-development and healing that I did with the first one but without being sucked in to the corruption of the child. ___ sorry for the long reply, I wanted to show the differences between how we might have experienced our BPDs LOL Is this experience similar to yours? Or were you in a different role play scenario?
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I thought about it more what you could do is ASMR to practice that voice, but also push it to social media and then you could start a business that way. So you could turn practice into a business
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@Michal__ nice apps man! now all you got to do is get an audiance. I think the first one has potential for businesses. I also wanted to make a business focussed product but because I'm so disconnected from that business world I can't really come up with good ideas or I know I won't be able to polish it properly
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I was so corrupt, but now i see the love I put what you wrote into a map ahah, maybe ill make a actualized.org AI that will map out our conversations and extract the insights. This was always one of my dreams to reinvent conversation from back and forward text to a map building system, were we collaborate to build a map instead of taking past each other. Then there could be a library of ideas we all gather and build that can carry over to other conversations automatically.
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integral replied to Consilience's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Razard86 cults don't take epistemology seriously, they don't talk about it, it's not part of their vocabulary
