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Epistemology: All Points have infinite scientific papers Direct experimentation with five to six observable measurements like Sleep Quality, Sexual Energy ... While maintaining a structured repeated routine, ( going to bed at the same time , eating the same exact meal , exercising at the same time). All variables accounted for. Then the experiment is run over and over and over again. Then a process of falsifying it by seeing if there's a way to break the hypothesis. Experiments are created to break the hypothesis and when everything fails. It's considered true. Both breaking hypothesis and imagining that hypothesis both consume a lot of time and energy. Work is being done just exploring the space in a continuous self-development loop. Connecting all the dots into one coherent model Experimenting on others and monitoring/observing their experience
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INTJ No it's not straightforward, it's loaded with a worldview and values. Coping with what? There was never a vision for a perfect relationship because they don't exist, and I have other things I find far more important to focus on It's easy to find people you're compatible with and then after that it's just a relationship. And you have to live a life. And living that life won't be some Disney story miracle. Living a life is hard. I was a chess master by the age of 12. I figured out self-development in elementary school. Okay so you have an extremely specific vision and now you're going to do everything you can to actualize it. Why did you invent this vision?
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This is the vision of self development that happens when someone unlocks self development for the first time, they then fully realize just how little everyone else is self-directing their own development. And then they realize all the issues in the world and that if people were pursuing self-development they wouldn't make all of these mistakes and of course the incentive is to help push people to grow up. What I'm talking about is after exhausting this Non-Stop at the end of all of this self-development work, the measurement for what someone gets out of life is not getting "what they deserve". So statements like "Out of 10 what quality of partner do you think you deserve? If you answer anything other than 10 you're low self-esteem or lazy in my books." This makes perfect sense to a beginner with low self-esteem, a way to manufacture a feeling. The function of "you deserve a 10" is to install entitlement as motivation, to convince yourself you're owed the best, and you'll have the confidence/drive to pursue it, fail to feel owed it, and you'll "settle." So "deserve" here is a psychological technique. And then it quickly becomes a victim mindset and an entitlement mindset. "I dont deserve this" is a victim mindset. Deserving things is disguised as standards. It's very close to having high standards but it's actually a game of victim hood. The right way is to Simply have standards for yourself and a vision for the type of life you want to have. -> The right framing is to ask what is my vision of the type of life I want and is this aligned with it? What kind of Lamborghini do you think you deserve? I feel No Lack whatsoever for Lamborghinis. This is literally the experience of Lamborghini abundance. There's no 'deserve' in how I see it because there's no one there to be owed anything. There's just: what's the situation, what's my vision, and what's the strategic move to bring them closer. Developed people are not running a self-esteem calculation about what they're owed. If your dick gets chopped off are you going to feel like you deserve a dick? It was never about deserving dicks, Maturity involves accepting reality and being strategic about how you apply your vision to the real world.
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I agree and also it's still very messy the real world, it's true there's a mismatch and also there's always going to be a mismatch. Is the mismatch that he's going to get with other woman going to be a bit better than this one, Maybe. He can't be satisfied where he's at so he has to go and explore the world, that's 100% correct. What we're talking about is that he's going to go find some woman out there that's better than the one he has, That's the only thing in question here. I agree with a lot of points you made about compatibility, and disagree with that he's not compatible with the woman he's dating right now. And if he's on the verge of loneliness in the honeymoon phase of an 8 month relationship clearly there's more to the problem than him having to go explore the Abundant sexual fruits of our world. The number one thing he's going to find out there dating other people is himself --- Theres always a subtle hint in your writing that there's this abundant world out there and of course you can't be satisfied in a relationship you have to taste the fruits of everything. A lot of intps are like this my INTP friend tried to have me have sex with his girlfriend because he was so desperate for threesome, and his girlfriend was rejecting it. So I asked him why he wants this so badly? why is this stuff so important to him that he would allow other men to have sex with his girlfriend? And from his perspective he just wants to explore and experience everything and he doesn't want to be limited. Well from my perspective I don't want someone else's dick in my girlfriend. But to each their own right? I personally couldn't care less about experiencing another man inside my girlfriend but he is so obsessed with experiencing every aspect of life that he wants this. He also told me he wants to experience killing someone at least once. lmao so that he could get the full experience of life, to get the full experience you always have to experience everything at least once. Well I don't agree, that's just his values and what he wants out of life
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When living with someone people go through every state and mood. So the whole spectrum of who they are as a person is revealed. Their worst possible selves and their best possible selves are all going to be something that the partner has to experience every day. The closer that both partners Lifestyles align with each other the less friction there's going to be when all these different moods and States collide. Having high standards to select a good partner is super important and 99% of the point of doing that is to figure out if you can live together with them.
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It's hard to know if you're compatible with someone if you don't live with them
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I read in the previous comment that people were interpreting what we were saying as that he should stay in the relationship. When what we're talking about is he doesn't have any gratitude or appreciation or understanding what life is about. and @LordFall will frame gratitude as weakness, settling, scarcity mindset, laziness and so on. and that's only true when they didn't do any self development work, when they didn't pursue all of that stuff and now they're actually coping. This is his first relationship and he found something to be unhappy about, And that's fine that's how we are all built and now he has to go and date 600 more women to find that they're all basically the same. Everyone you're going to date is going to have strengths and weaknesses. @LordFall the MBTI point was good, compatibility is important, but what matters more above mbti is what is their mature level, how have applied themselves in self development, do they have healthy physiology and don't have neurological conditions.
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Why is that such a crazy thing to say?
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From your perspective what i said is toxic abuse? and what i said is he needs life experience to know what hes looking for.
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Dude your acting like hes in a toxic abussive relationship and im telling him to accept it.
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For anyone with life experience.
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"met an incredibly loving, loyal, beautiful woman. We are highly compatible in lifestyle: both introverted, home-oriented, physically attracted to each other, and comfortable living together. She takes care of the home, I provide financially, and the relationship is peaceful and easy." this is the ideal relationship. I would of accepted "peaceful" as the only requirement.
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I didn't say he had to settle. I said if he has a problem he needs more life experience and that means he has to leave the relationship and get that experience But don't expect some rainbow unicorn woman at the other side
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@Elliott Realistically what you could hope for is a woman who's going to hug you when you come home from work and tell you that she loves you.
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MIMINUM? He said the only problem with his wife is that she's intellectually not his equal. That means she qualifies at every level except for one. Anyways the problem has nothing to do with the girl it has to do with him not having experience, and not knowing what life is about and prioritizing small details that and he thinks fixing these small details are going to bring him happiness
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You're at the beginning of the journey not the end. That perfect woman doesn't exist, you're going to find someone marginally of better compatibility. Don't confuse one realization for understanding the whole journey here. Who ever you date will have strengths and weaknesses.
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Let's assume someone does not have a scarcity mindset, they do have options and yet they're in a great relationship with a great woman who has one imperfection. Now your whole post looks like someone has to chase perfection or else there settling, so the framing is everything is settling and that's weakness and therefore it's wrong. Do you "deserve a Lamborghini?" the answer: The question is a shallow value projection. Needing Perfection is the pathology. Because these are children's games. If you're in a great relationship and still not happy it's because you have to grow up. And there's nothing wrong with needing to grow up and if that growing up means you have to leave the relationship to experience life then that's what you got to do.
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Watch on youtube so it loops. Loop: https://youtube.com/shorts/ogPVcIeE8a0?si=UHXN0A2q9ir5Y80X
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I know it's almost childish but I have a fear of revealing my best business ideas or dream business that I'm currently actively working on, in fear of it being stolen lol. I have the fear of not releasing it until it's perfect or that I've built a substantial way of promoting it so that I'm first to Market. I don't know if this is rational There's a lot of wisdom going around that you shouldn't reinvent the wheel with unique Products, just take products that already exist that have been battle tested and copy them. But this bores me out of my mind and most of it isn't aligned with my highest vision.
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@Leo Gura this page has no usable text or metadata for the quote. https://www.actualized.org/insights/profound-quotes-111 This makes it impossible to search quotes as they are in image format.
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Your mother has to transfer all of the funds to a different bank account to secure everything and not give him access.
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integral replied to Natasha Tori Maru's topic in Intellectual Stuff: Philosophy, Science, Technology
@Natasha Tori Maru the only alternative to the "yes" answer: you never observe a necessary connection between two events, you just see one thing, then another (ball moves, window breaks), and your mind supplies the "cause." So causation is just a habit of associating things. but thats just one metaphysics out of any number you can imagine. so the question is how to know what metaphysics is true? Will any experiment tell me what is true? Can observation and intuition tell me what is true or is that a self-deception? Can i know what is true by rational thought and logic, is it reliable? ... epistemology 🌈 -
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To test the hypothesis, go and find that intellectual woman that you think you're going to find. She's not going to be on Tinder, she won't be on any dating app. Do the work and find that woman.
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@Husseinisdoingfine loool basicly the ESTP, and they're very successful at business. Action over planning.
