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Everyone needs to realize that people want to have different styles of conversation and when their style of conversation doesn’t suit your style of conversation there is a rejection. Learn to identify someone’s flow and go with it instead of fighting the stream. if someone is highly playful become highly playful if someone wants to play the absolute game or revealing the ego game go along and play that game. Explore the ride they’re taking you on. Explore the ride the universe is taking you on. Let go of resistance.

@Tyler Robinson @CultivateLove thanks for the explanation. In all of does situations the victim had to be of a specific temperament to allow themselves to be manipulated by that person. Once people become knowledgable of gaslighting and can identify the pattern it is 100% their responsibility to not perceive them selves as the victim. When people have tried to manipulate me in the past in the same fashion as you describe I know the tricks they’re playing and don’t take it personally (victim role) because it’s a reflection of them not me. When you experience the conversation from a third person perspective the magic trick is revealed and you’re just another character in a play.

@Tyler Robinson I’ve never experienced gaslighting, how do you explain that? I take nothing people they say personally so im immune to it.

Agreed I think because they where more personal and intimate with forum members.

This situation is relatively easy and will not test true resolve. Your feeling are built on your lowest self (trauma and conditioning) so there a terrible compass for life. Got to do what you think and know is the right thing to do in every moment. The mind is a terrible master.

Use it as a source of motivation there’s no need to destroy the boat before you get to the destination.

I think you have high moral ideals but not integrity. Integrity is to do what you know is right despite how you feel or what you have to gain or loss or wtv low hanging fruit put in front of you to temp you into rationalizing the truth away. The things people have done to you and hurt you with, you will turn around and do the same thing to them when the circumstance is right. The right circumstances hasn't happened yet. BPD + Hyper Sensitivity is a deadly combination, its incapable of integrity because its base survival needs have not been met yet. When constantly faced with survival threats most cant be Integris. Right now masturbation caused all feelings you had for someone to disappear to the point you where compelled to ignore them. If your feelings don't return will you ignore this person indefinitely when you know from first hand experience how hurtful and immoral that is to do to someone? Do you have the integrity to break up with someone vai text (because you know that's the right thing to do) or will you avoid conflict at all cost because its emotionally hard and ghost them? (knowing it is deeply hurtful from you directly experiencing it). Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Treat other people with the concern and kindness you would like them to show toward you. -> Integrity Its impossible to have integrity when emotions compel people to do the opposite. Today i went to the store and the woman miss priced my item, i got it for a 3rd the price. I didnt tell her = lack of integrity i then told my self a story to rationalize it "Walmart enslave children, i should be stealing from them as much as possible" lmao

STAGES OF ANIMA DEVELOPMENT IN MEN 1. Women as mother - He needs a mommy to take care of him. In this first stage, a man’s anima is completely tied up with the mother. She is not necessarily his personal mother but the image of a woman that is a faithful provider of nourishment, security, and love. She represents all that is natural, instinctual, and biological.223 A man with an anima complex of this type cannot function well without a vital connection to a woman, and is easy prey of being controlled and exploited by her. He frequently suffers from impotence or has no sexual desire at all, and is therefore called a mama’s boy. This type of anima possession also manifests through fear of accidents or disease, or in a sort of dullness of personality. The Greek Sirens and the German Lorelei personify these dangerous aspects of the anima, which may even lead a man to his death over a lost love relationship through suicide. 2. Women as sex object - He wants her to make him feel good. In the second stage, the anima is a collective sexual image. She is a Marilyn Monroe, Madonna, or Playboy model. Men in stage two are often Don Juans who see all women as sex objects, and engage in repeated sexual adventures, sometimes developing into sexual addictions. These relationships are invariably short-lived, because he is not faithful, is always looking for his next conquest, and no woman can ever live up to his unrealistic image of the ideal female partner. 3. Women as wife - He wants her loyalty and support. In the third stage of his anima complex development, a man becomes ready to care for a wife and be devoted to his family. He is the loving protector and provider that women in the equivalent stage three of their animus development seek. Men with this anima accept their partner as she is, as long as she fulfills her role as supportive, undemanding, caring, and faithful wife, available sex partner, and loving mother to his children. His sexuality is usually integrated into their relationship and not an autonomous function that drives him. He can differentiate between love and lust, which allows him to create a lasting partnership (if she stays), because he can tell the difference between the objects of his sexual desire and the benefits of being a faithful partner/husband. 4. Women as guide to creativity and awakening - He struggles with her need for independence. In the fourth stage, a man’s anima functions as a guide to his inner life. As women in this stage become emotionally and financially independent from men, they often turn away and abandon their partners against their will. This challenges him to seek other sources of fulfillment, happiness, aliveness, passion, joy, purpose, peace, and love. Through his quest arises a desire to answer life’s deeper questions of “who am I,” “where do I come from,” “why am I here,” “what is the meaning of my life,” “what should I do,” “what is my purpose,” and “where do I go”? Contemplating these questions, reading books like the one that you are holding right now, meditating, or seeking a bond with others on a similar path in men’s groups, New Age churches, and personal growth workshops allow him to bring deeper levels of his unconscious anima into his awareness. This leads to a liberating process of awakening to his authentic nature, true purpose, genuine passions, and capacity to love unconditionally that are independent from a partnership with a woman.224 On the flipside, he may show behaviors that are usually described as a midlife crisis,225 become commitment phobic, avoid deeper intimacy with women altogether, or engage in serial monogamy or polyamory,226 since he does not want to sacrifice his newfound freedom or to be limited by one partnership. This partial awakening (the idea of living alone is not Integral, fully realized, or the ultimate realization of human development) is transcended when a man enters stage five of his anima development. 5. Women as equal partner - He meets her as an opposite and equal partner. Similar to a woman in this stage (see below), a man in stage five of his anima complex development has accepted the fact that conflicts and ambivalence are intrinsic to human relationships, and sees how their resolution contributes to his ongoing healing, personal growth, and spiritual realization. He feels confident, secure, and comfortable to authentically express his sexual essence (which tends to be masculine in heterosexual men), while he embraces his feminine (anima).227 This allows him to invite differing views, experiences, and feelings of his female partner without feeling threatened, offended, or puzzled by them. Her authentic stage-five feminine qualities naturally complement his masculinity and vice versa. Since he has found his own purposeful identity that does not depend on her inspiration, support, or approval, he appreciates his partner’s independent authority,228 and doesn’t feel responsibility, shame, or insecurity if she is unhappy—even though he shows empathy, care, and devotion—and enjoys when she is happy. He neither clings, nor pushes her away, but fully opens to embrace her at all levels of his being when they are together, and stays content and fulfilled when they are apart. This allows him to enter into a mature monogamous relationship of opposites and equals from which radically new life experiences, emotional healing processes, and deeper spiritual realizations that often become the foundation for altruistic acts of kindness and service towards others emerge. STAGES OF ANIMUS DEVELOPMENT IN WOMEN 1. Men as alien outsiders - She fears, hates, and loves him. Because of abuse or abandonment from men that she identified with during childhood, such as a father, father figure, older brother, uncle, or family friend, a woman in this stage completely denies and suppresses her animus as alien inside and outside of herself. She trusts her mother and other females, while she distrusts, hates, or fears men. This is often countered by a strange curiosity about men, which she cannot differentiate. This ambivalence can make her extremely seductive, needy, and clingy, and cause severe symptoms of the “seduce and withhold”230 syndrome. As soon as a man gets close to her she withdraws, only to come back to ask for more after he becomes distant. She can break the heart of a weak man who tries to prove that he is different, attempts to rescue her from her fears, and so becomes codependent231 as she lures him into her pathological cat and mouse game. Within the limits of her domain in household, family, and female-oriented work environment (e.g., school teacher, nurse, artist, gardener, therapist, healer, working with animals, etc.), such a woman may seem grounded and self-confident. Outside those limits, she leaves the work and responsibility to men and more mature women.232 2. Men as father, God, or king - She wants his approval. The self-esteem of a woman in this stage is directly connected to the response and approval that she receives from men. She is often driven by a need to be seen as the most attractive female, and constantly monitors her value by her internalized masculine judgment and through externalized male reflection. This may lead to a split in her personality when she imitates male behavior to be liked by them, and at other times presents herself as a sexually seductive femme fatale (such as in the movie Basic Instinct) to be desired. She either hides behind a feminine mask of beautiful appearance, graceful charming manner, and entertaining wit, or develops a tom boyish attitude through teasing, competing, and challenging, or some other facade that suggests success. Women in this stage gravitate towards men that they perceive to be more attractive, intelligent, and exciting than they could ever be themselves. They often try to live up to men by dietary restrictions, vigorous physical exercising, adapting to their intellectual interests, developing new talents, and being sexually available to become the perfect mate. If a woman remains in this stage, she is at great risk of entering a profound depression when her beauty and sexual attractiveness wane, and the number of heads that she is turning, and men who admire her diminishes. She may then isolate herself from all intimate relationships, because her perfectionism overrides her ability to be compassionate and to forgive her own and others’ mistakes. This may lead her to withdraw into a cold and bitter self-denial in which her anxieties create all kinds of psychosomatic illnesses, such as panic attacks, vomiting, heart problems, fatigue, and body aches. A strong, conscious, and patient man (or a good psychotherapist) can support a woman in this stage to find her own worth, passions, and identity, independent of male approval, which then allows her to enter into stage three.233 3. Men as hero - She wants him to take care of her. Women in stage three seek a man as protector and provider with strength, courage, and ability, who can meet her needs, cherish her, and whom she wants to marry. He represents her ideal (and often unrealistic) image of the knight in shining armor who fulfills her expectations for good looks, intelligence, solid reputation, stable finances, generosity, loyalty, humor, kindness, care, integrity, and faithfulness. To be in a good bargaining position, this woman will focus on her appearance, health/fitness, and adapting to the world of men by seeking a higher education, pursuing a career, fighting for social justice, or saving a failing business. She will appear as self-affirming and expects something in return. She functions well in the competitive world of men, sees herself as equal, is willing to share responsibilities, and will contribute and perform as long as her partner is able to provide more in return, since women want to marry up. As long as he meets her expectations for financial security, social status, and devotion, she will support him to achieve his full potential while often denying such achievements to herself. This can lead to feelings of resentment and anger when she sees that she has been “denied” the right to experience her own competence, and when her partner/husband fails to live up to her ever-growing expectations. Some women in this stage will enter an inward journey once they become aware of the transitory nature of their physical attractiveness, ability to succeed with men, and limitations of finding acceptance in the male world. This may lead them to the restoration of their female authority 234 as they take responsibility for their own identity once they have moved into stage four of their animus complex development.235 4. Men as independent beings - She wants her independence. A woman in stage four makes an active choice in favor of her self-interest and self-fulfillment—independent of a partner or husband. This transition takes place with the realization that she has constructed her own experiences throughout her lifetime in relationship to men, and now wants to find her own identity. She will stop trying to be perfect in all things in order to please her partner (who was a heroic father figure in the previous stage), as she becomes emotionally free from his approval and support. Having discovered her own source of worthiness and foundation, she is working to restore her female authority. Financial independence through her own labor or through other sources of money that are often only available to women, such as “divorcing well,” alimony and child-support payments, generous lovers, support from parents, or Social Security benefits, are the prerequisite for this transition. You will notice if your partner enters into stage four of her animus development when she starts to challenge you, cares less about your needs, seeks her financial independence, and refuses to take responsibility for holding your relationship together. If you are in partnership with a woman in this stage, it is important to know that it is not your fault that her pain of staying will eventually be greater than her fear of leaving, and that there is nothing you can do but to take care of yourself emotionally 236 and sexually, protect the financial assets that are legitimately yours (if you have to, with the help of a CPA or lawyer), and, if you can, support her with love and compassion in her transition. Once separated and/or divorced, she will feel free from the evaluation and needs of men for the first time in her life. These newly single women are then much occupied with challenging work, their animals and children, social activities, educational advancements, maintaining their household, hobbies, world-travel, and their friendships.237 At the same time, they look down at women who show more feminine or balanced qualities and who desire to be (or are) in a committed partnership with a man. To women in stage four, partnered women still seem to be in the pitiful stage two or three of dependence on a male partner (which they have just escaped). However, married women may have actually advanced into stage five, which women in stage four cannot fathom yet. They discredit partnered women as unevolved and often compete with them in merciless ways. Women in stage four frequently break with the conventional role of caring mother, show tough love, and feel fulfilled outside a partnership with a man. Still, there remains an underlying fear of abandonment, especially in older women, when concerns about the disappearance of their skills and autonomy in the midst of a crisis arise. This often leads to feelings of ambivalence. On one side there is a secret longing for the stability and support that a partnership with a man could provide during times of stress, fatigue, loneliness, or desire for sex. On the other side there is the fear of becoming emotionally dependent, used, and dominated again. Frequent complaints about the lack of good men who are physically fit and attractive, highly intelligent, successful, accomplished, mature, kind, loving, generous, evolved, supportive, spiritual, and available when they need/want them, but who remain flexible, undemanding, and unattached otherwise, are a hallmark of women in stage four.238 Becoming men-hating diehard singles, settling for “friends with benefits” whom they string a long, or serial monogamy are often the only solutions that seem to solve their dilemma. It is not your fault if you get mixed messages, are rejected, or are ignored altogether by women in stage four that you try to date or get a commitment from, as these women are highly independent, endlessly demanding, impossible to please, and commitmentphobic.239 This is, of course, no problem for men who have entered stage four of their own anima development, which many single males and females falsely see as the highest stage of their personal and spiritual development (as in, I am so whole and complete, I don’t need a partner to complete me). If you have matured into stage five and meet a woman who is at the end of her animus stage four development, then you may be able to patiently support her to transition into stage five and find a wonderful partner in her. 5. Men as equal partners - She wants him as an equal and opposite partner. Just as a man, a woman in stage five of her animus development has accepted that conflict and ambivalence are intrinsic to human relationships, and realized the significance of a partnership to balance her further psychological growth and spiritual awakening.240 Having fully claimed her own authority after transcending her animus complex, she no longer sees men as alien, superior, inferior, or independent. The realization that the idea of living and going it alone was a distorted conception of human existence emerges in her, because we never live alone. She sees that in being human we have a variety of economic, physical, sexual, psychological, and spiritual needs that cannot be met by living alone. At last she has the insight that a balanced personality always develops in a self-other conception, and never through the discovery of an independent self.241 This woman then desires the material, intellectual, emotional, sexual, and spiritual synergy that is co-created with a man who meets her as an opposite and equal (which means opposite feminine and masculine polarities with equal levels of consciousness, rights, and responsibilities). Since she may have never experienced a stage five partnership, she needs guidance from a man (like you?) at the same stage of his anima development, who is able to meet her in an integrally informed way. These couples can then form interdependent242 partnerships in which they heal, learn, grow, and enjoy family and social activities together, while contributing to the well-being of others.243 --------------------------- So where are you guys in your development? Men answer from the ANIMA list and Woman from the ANIMUS list. Its possible to be a mix of many stages and a mix of anima and animus, if so describe your experience.

Doing anything for extended periods of time in a fully absorbed way can do this to you. When i used to play chess 12 hours a day I would get up and talk to someone and the conversation was entirely like a game of chess. “if he says this then these are my options, I’ll say this in response but if that fails ill do this next…” You’ll hallucinate or think from the place you’ve been thinking from the entire time, it’s conditioning to think a certain way. socializing a lot you’ll eventually relax and become more extroverted in your experience and thinking process, so you’re conditioned to think in that way. Thinking state optimizis for whatever activity you’re doing.

You’re just tired, you’ve exhausted the dopamine system and need rest. When in that state just ask yourself if you like the person or not? I experienced this too when I was younger basically you’re a really self-absorbed person lol memenememmememe if you don’t feel like it then you won’t lift a finger for anyone. Because everything you do is based on how you feel in the moment in a highly unstable way. So you’re prone to huge bouts of hypocrisy and low integrity. It’s going to stay that way until you do things based on your values (integrity) and not on emotional whims.

Where is the debate on this? When are we getting this final fight? I’m starting to get into it.

He started strong by saying that he realized the relation was not gonna last long so how can we make it as memorable as possible? I think that’s a pretty good insight to approach any relationship. The rest was questionable.

If we remove sex from the equation is this person actually someone you like? Do you enjoy spending time with them genuinely? Some men after an orgasm realize clearly that they just don’t like the person and was blinded by sexual attraction. It’s more prevalent when you’re younger and are hyper focussed on sex.

Mr. girls stories of his accidental rape or accidental sexual assault of woman are all autistic masculine approaches to dating and to relating to women. If your unsure of what a woman is feeling or what her comfort level is, you just ask them (playfully, gracefully), This not only assesses the situation but it also increases her comfort level with you because you’re showing empathy. Not understanding the comfort level of the people around him and a poor escalation strategy is cringe level autism.

Mushrooms at higher dosages will make it difficult to get an erection and keep it up. It makes you want to basically fall asleep and knock out.

@KH2 why are you emotionally effected by other peoples arrogance?

@OBEler no shapeshifter they would get high or experience what I was experiencing to some degree. Absorbing my energy but not experiencing the full extent of what I was experiencing.

Ahhhhhhh… The mask was to hide… ?

@Mesopotamian Yes the perception a man has that his woman loves him is skewed and her love is highly conditional. As people grow up there survival needs change and eventually there needs move away from seeking love based on deficiency to love based on being.

When having sex on mushrooms my partners would experience it to even if they were not high.

Some women are social butterflies, there was no hook.

Do you have a sister? Maybe that’s one of the major factors some men are so bad with women that they don’t have any siblings.

Good vocal tonality triggers dopamine to release in the listener and in yourself!

If i don't have an orgasm (by intention) then once a day for about 1h - 2h. But if i orgasm then i need to take breaks, so every 2nd or 3rd day.