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Right, I'm not arguing with him, I'm asking why this helps him contemplate. Practically: find what works for you and use that as a tool. But I want something deeper than that. Why is that something that is rooted into his psyche and not mine. And why does it not disrupt him and it disrupts mine?
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That's a fair point, let me be more exact of the pattern. Here I analyze the last nine tracks on the blog. There's genuinely positive, bittersweet, and sad tracks in there. It's not one emotion. But the reason it all feels the same is because the other dimensions of music across the playlist are the same. Arousal level: low to low-moderate (8/9) Tempo: mid-tempo (7/9) Harmonic complexity: predictable, no surprises (9/9) Sonic aesthetic: atmospheric, dreamy, soft electronic production (7/9) Genre family: chill indie-electronic ecosystem (7/9) Texture: nothing harsh, nothing abrasive, nothing jarring (9/9) Overall vibe: beautiful, gentle, safe (9/9) - I used Ai to help do analysis for this. Not that it wasn't obvious lol problem is articulating things because you're very specific on language. In 7 of the tracks the tempo background drum beat is identical. boom tab boom tab boom tab... It's like giving me nine heavy metal pieces of music and then telling me they're not all the same? They are harmonic electronic dreamy atmospheric production style. Producing a similar nervous system stimulation.
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The INTP point might have some truth to it for Leo. I think Leo would respond to this whole thread that it's complete preference, whatever works for you. He shares music that works for him. But I don't think he has addressed why it's that specific emotion that he prefers over others. What the deeper meaning or map behind it is?
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The most conscious answer has arrived 😂. We be playing monkey games. Cheers!
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😂😂
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I was waiting for Leo to bestow upon us the most conscious answer.
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LOl both pictures look like you're thinking "what am I looking at?" "why do I exist?" Staring into the void.
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Dont tell me we are in the presence of a pepe millionnaire. 😂 I bet they all look exactly like this.
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Im imagining first kicking someone off a mountain. KONKering. For some reason, this invokes imagining speed and intelligent body motion. Like I'm in a battle dodging attacks like a God.
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I think it makes sense for contemplation work that something that doesn't trigger too many emotional swings would be better suited. I think different frames help contemplate different things. I noticed some video game high energy music makes it easier to contemplate some types of ideas but not good for others. Unclear.
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Id like to categorize the feelings/frame people are chasing with there music preferences. Instead of genra we should have "frames".
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Oh ye i get that, my first break up i was listening to cold play lmfao and crying. Yes i can see, its a sadness and spilling ones feelings out. It reminds me of Adele. Definitly different from leos preferences that tends to be about "the beautify of life" but with a nostalgic tone. Nostalgic beautify of life is the feeling that hits. Slight sadness to it but beauty of reality.
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@Leo Gura The music you like is the emotion you want to feel. Do you see this? Most of the music your choosing are all a very similar emotional tone. Which is your preferred emotion for contemplation?
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I can see the appeal Oh i realized they are singing about there life experiences and i dont relate to it. Likely plays a major role why it doesn't personality resonate. Like that specific thing they are singing about i have never felt that way about life or relationships or have never had that struggle.
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@Miguel1 I like the selections that you've picked over Leo's, because there's more of a story involved. The genra still cause "distortion". Like for example "all heavy metal sounds the same". Do you get that vibe with some genras? lol. Its sort of like that with this one. Of course this is a personal things happening and not truth. Overall im not satisfied with the answer that music is preference. I want a complete picture here. I can't help but think that the appeal of this genre would be rooted in your childhood. I have similar preferences in the italian genra.
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LMAO is that the trap i fell for?
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Would porn still exist without capitalism?
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The genre comes from the Orange aesthetics. It's a derivative of club music. All the people that surrounded me growing up who were completely unconscious were blasting this kind of music and I just can't listen to it. Linear beats without any novelty. It lacks creativity, it's highly predictable. It sounds like a unconscious 20 year old complaining about their problems. Now, I'm not trying to shit on anyone who likes this music. I'm pointing to how I select music and it's based on how much intelligence went into it. Now all these genres of music require intelligence to create so it's not black-and-white in that way. It also sounds like noise, in the sense that it's highly disruptive and does not flow well with my state of being.
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@Leo Gura People have a intimate relationship with the music that they listen to, so I can understand why you want to share it on your blog. But it's entirely personal preference. I experience your music as to loud and noisy. Disruptive. I can appreciate that It's of quality music within its own genre. This is a appreciation of beauty but not a direct experience of beauty. Maybe write a blog post about conscious music?
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LOL im pretty sure you knew all this already, maybe it helps hearing it again.
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It's tough when it's family because there's a deeper obligation and you can't cut them off for the most part. I've had people in my life like this, and I was able to cut them off. The family members I have that I don't wanna deal with I limit contact to as little as possible. In the end, it's not healthy to be exposed to toxic people. It doesn't matter how developed or mature or enlightened a person is. Constant exposure to toxic people is unhealthy. It would be better if you had a big break from them and had no contact for a while to get a fresh perspective. That might help the healing or development process.
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Right, there is partial truth.
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I never would of thought that! Can you give an example of this?
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Oh god INFP = Zero social resistance. Traumatized by most things people say.
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😂 well elon is pretty unstable in that way, wouldnt say its specific to types. More like stability comes with maturity. The main trauma INTP/INTJ get is disgust for others.
