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@dimitri just read the thread and came across this said by Serotoninluv: "For those that liked the dream analogy. . . Imagine our character Paul really wants to find truth. He opens himself up and surrenders as much as he can. He goes on a spiritual retreat. This could be a vippassana retreat, a solo retreat or an Ayahuasca retreat. During the retreat he has some glimpses of awakening. (The Real You is actually waking up a bit). Imagine what this would be like for Paul if You start waking up a bit. Paul and the world around him starts to dissolve and become odd. This could be liberating or terrifying to Paul. The Real You may even open your eyes a bit and notice your bed and the room around you. The Real You falls back asleep and Paul becomes Paul again. This glimpse beyond the dream is incredibly powerful. Paul doesn't know what to make of it. He feels really unstable. His whole perception of life is forever changed. Yet, he still tries to recontexualize this awakening into his dream world. So. . . how might Paul describe this to his friends in the dream. He would sound A LOT like what we hear in spirituality. As he looks around his dream world would say things like "I don't exist", "form is formless" (notice how form is formless within his dream). He would say "the person doesn't awaken, it's beyond the person". When people ask him "are you awakened?" it would be weird. He knows he is a dream character within a higher intelligence (The Real You). He would say "we are all One" (every thing within the dream is One dream occurring in the Real You). One of Paul's friends, Stacey, asks if awakening will help her lose weight. Another friend, Jack, asks if awakening will help will get rid of his anxiety and depression. Paul tries to tell them that there is something higher going on here and awakening isn't going to help anyone in the dream get anything. It is beyond the character. " IS THIS FOR REAL??? Has anyone have the experience of the real YOU waking up and the Real You may even open your eyes a bit and notice your bed and the room around you"??? Wow if true that is fascinating to me. PLease tell your experiences PLEASE!!!! I feel very liberated from thinking it's all a dream.

I am doing a 20 min Choiceless awareness meditation and so far i am really getting my mind very quiet very quickly and also detaching to everything. It's almost the same kind of meditation than the do nothing technique but you don't get lost in monkey mind but you let everything be, like surrendering to what is happening and being aware of it all at the same time. There is little control to stay focused on everything without labeling and so detaching from the senses or what is inside the senses. For example you watch you breath as it is for 3-5 mins and then you listen to sounds but as sounds not identifying with any sound like that is a loud or soft sound or it's a car making the sound and adding hearing to the breathing like both at the same time, the same with the body you feel the whole body first and then the sensations and emotions but you see them as feeling, so with the mind as thinking , smelling and tasting if there is any. It's like watching and adding senses almost like being omnipresent with everything and that is very tricky in the beginning. Also, while watching to remember you the one that's watching and there is no separation between the seer and the seeing, the hearer and the hearing and so on... I am just worried that this meditation like the do nothing meditation can cause serious problems like hearing a car come on and then your like hearing just the sound and you don't get out the way and bammm your a goner!!! yikes!!! or like you will become so disconnected that you become like a zombie in conversations and make a fool out of yourself in front of others and i have that fear already, so double yikes!!! What do you think will happen if you really master this technique? Should i continue with this meditation?

@ajasatya I understand.

@ajasatya I guess. Just don't want to waist my time and after 3 months or so when i realized oh shit and have to start another meditation or be lost like some people i have met here. Why i am asking.

@Matt8800 That's what i want, to experience these things, very curious and want to communicate to them spirits so these spirits could give information about the spirit world, what reality is on the other side so to speak.

@Matt8800 Cool to hear those things. I believe they are legit but i know if i see a spirit for myself or communicate with one i would be happy to say there is an afterlife?

Thanks and her existent isn't that proof the afterlife exists? She is right. I don't focus so much on my death anymore cause i believe there is an afterlife cause of my learning's and beliefs have changed. I am also very interested in the astral, into the absolute/non-duality, God and what reality really is. Also, in enlightenment and spirituality. What does she say about enlightenment?

@Danioover9000 Wow that sounds so cool. I have been fascinated by the paranormal my whole life. I guess i would like to set my fear of death to rest and know if there is life after death. You know there is a afterlife now which must be so cool to know 100%. Read you said she stays in the astral realm with allot of green in it right? I had a vision years ago while meditating and saw a city in the clouds and everything was green, the clouds and the city. Does she stay there alone? Did she go there after she died?? How old do you guess is she? also, does she say that there is a afterlife and that we all go there? does she know if there is a heaven and a hell? Sorry for those questions but my fears would like to know.

I can see myself laughing at myself, if i am God when i think i am going die when someone with a mask scares the shit out of me when i am a sleep or when i am so anxious around people that i look like a idiot when i make a fool of myself infront of others. Not funny in the moment but i laugh at myself sometimes lolll. What a joke.

@Joseph Maynor Nice!!!

Watched a video on Youtube were Nicky Sutton said that we as the higher self is looking back at itself in the past to experience this moment for some reason.

What are the benefits of this meditation? I would guess mindfulness Also, prob hyper awareness? Any other benefits or experiences you like to share?

I watched a video on Leos blog about having no sense organs and i contemplate it for a while and i think i got some realizations but have some doubts that i would like you guy's opinions on. 1. I realized that there are allot of forms/things i can see but there is only one "bubble/field"(not sure what to call it)which is sight and everything appears inside of this field. Question: 1. If we don't have eyes or don't see with them then why if i close my eyes i see complete darkness and everything disappears? 2. Same with hearing one "bubble/field" and everything appears inside of it. Question: 2. If i put my fingers in my ears i can't hear the sound as good why if i don't use my ears? Question: 3. If i hear a car in the street and i don't use my ears how do i hear the car in the street? 4. I noticed there are different senses like 6 with mind and thoughts experiencing everything but there is only one thing/nothing aware of all these senses and that is my consciousness which is me. Question 4. Is that correct me thinking like that? 5. There is ONE consciousness/GOD which is aware/conscious of all different consciousnesses(sentient beings) in the infinite universe like we are Gods senses to perceive the infinite universe. Question 5. Is that realization correct?

Thought i share a joke on the paranormal since your talking about witches. One day at a psychic convention class the teacher asks his new students. If you believe in ghosts stand up? The whole class stands up. Great says the teacher. Teacher asks the class who knows of someone that has an encounter with a ghost and 75% of the class stands up, great says the teacher. Teacher asks again who actually seen a ghost? 50% of the class stands up. Wow great says the teacher and thinks to himself, this time i will get them so the teacher asks: Who has had sex with a ghost and one guy stands up and the teacher say wow i am impressed, did you really have sex with a ghost. The guy says ghost ohh i thought you said goat.

Something that exist has to be made by someone out of something is a human concept and so God just exists, no beginning no end. God was, is and will ever be if there was time cause time is a human concept too and does not exist

I am going to ape Leo here, so Leo said in a few videos actually that God made Himself and you can become conscious of it. That is how powerful infinite intelligence is and is one of God's or the absolutes facets. Nothing is what made God or there is nothing before God as i understand it, so nothingness is God but not the nothingness that you think of.

Hi everyone We all know what form looks like and think we know what it is. Think Leo said the form and the formless is the same. What is the formless??

Great topic to start contemplating, thanks

Wowwww that was the most amazing thing i have read in a while. I see now what @Aakash means with deconstructing things. Thanks for this, my friend. much appreciated and much love.

@Aakash Cool. Thanks for your advice

To me it's not a bad thing sometimes suffering is a road sign pointing the way to the path truth. Which is in my case but i got blasted with amazement at the truth and feel like a want-to-be astronaut reading about space on a real Astronaut site with real astronauts.

@Aakash i am genuinely interested. Not sure why you say i am not interested.

@Serotoninluv Are you saying the space between forms is the formless? If so it is just a duality of form?

Wow interesting. thanks. Going to watch Leo video on contemplation.

@Aakash oh i hear you but i just so want to try to know but i can't use psychedelics and meditation and self-inquiry is not deep enough but i am so soooooo interested in knowing about the formless. How does one start to deconstruction process?