presentleyes

Labels, steps to achieve, ego, judgement of others, judgement of ourselves, judgement, expectations, stagnation with progress, disconnection from others, self serving mechanism for validation/invalidation, not simply being in the moment, duality... if we put too much emphasis on it. They may have had something additional and/or different in mind when mentioned, but there are problems if you're not aware of how it can reinforce the ego.