krockerman

If you have No desire to wanting to experince that joyfull state while you are in it then it is not acually joyfull. About thougts. Don’t confuse correlation for causation. Thoughts are not desires. You may think you desire money but you may actually desire the freedom that comes with it. But it can also lead to suffering because you may get people who are trying to use you for your money. Even the joy for. enlightenment don’t last forever so it’s just as impermanent as any other desire. I don’t say this because I want to shame the people who want to awake I am just pointing out why we are all right whatever we desire or not desire to get rid of our desires (that is still a desire)

The reason that they are joyful is that they have the desire to experience joy that comes from enlightenment. In the same way that you can desire to avoid pain while being burned. Just because you have it does not mean you can’t desire it. If you where given the most joyful feeling in the world but have no desire to experience joy. You would not enjoy it. Same with if you where to experince the most painful thing in the world, if you had no desire to avoid pain it’s not actually painful. Everything love, joy etc are all fundamentally desire. Even having a state where you have almost no desire just having a very peaceful state of mind. The desire to have that peaceful state of mind is what is still desire.

Well the root of suffering and joy is desire. If you desire to avoid pain while you are in an Experince of pain, you will suffer. Same of you desire to Experince joy while you are in an experince of joy, you will enjoy it. If you don’t desire to Experince neither joy or pain you will neither suffer or enjoy. Same with the other way around. Simple as that

Enligtend people tend to not repress anything. Because of that they might not repress their desires for lust and power.

Egolessness will make you more independent of the state of the world. Even Leo have Said he could blow up the world and still love himself. I would not do that. I think you might start to see Why they could do the things they did

Reality or absolute infinity is logic itself. It cannot include anything that is against logic. If it did it would limit the reality Let's use an example a supernova that could destroy Reality itself. That would limit Reality rather than make it more limitless. However, this also means that God or absolute infinity is not Omnipotent because it cannot do anything that goes agaist logic. So if absolute infinity is logic @Leo Gura why not try to look into logic and reason to try to reach out to mainstream scientists about the nature of Reality if you want to awaken the the planet as fast as possible?

God as in absolute infinity will not limit you.

There have been many enlightened masters that have gone corrupt and exploited their followers for sex and money. Reality is relative. You are thinking of reality from an more absolutist point of view

logic makes reality infinite. If illocial stuff existed that would make reality finite example: A machine when activated defies logic and makes all of Reality finite and bounded. Yet it does not exits. You see how logic protects infinity

Just because you can travel infinity up in direction does not mean you can go one meter left no matter how high you get. I don't see how this all defy logic. just because there are infinite possibilities between 1 and 2 does not mean that 3 is below it. I am just saying that it is impossible to go beyond the number infinity because reality by definition has no end. It's still very interesting what you said. And i am not saying relative illogical things exits. they do. infinity + 1 does not defy logic. However, infinity + x is always infinity. I am just saying it is impossible to beyond that

Reality never created itself because Reality never begun. I am not saying that there were never illogical "things" that created Reality. I am just saying Reality itself cannot defy logic Nothing in reality is 100% material or 100% Immaterial. So nothing is 100% immaterial and beacuse of that nothing 100% immaterial created 100% material. That would defy logic lack of Memory does not defy logic Reality can be mathematically computed. there is infinite possibilities within number one like there are infinite possbilies within abolute infinity or the one You can experince something wihout any rational understading. We can explain with rationality why monkeys do what they do but that does not mean the monkey itself understand it from a rational point of view. But that does not mean that the monkey would defy logic

No saying that you are your body is like saying that you are the car you drive. Driver = pure experince Car = body You see? this all is very logical

I am not saying what I find logical is absolute infinity. That is relative logic. I am just saying that absolute infinity is Logic (not relative logic) many things can go beyond infinity? I did not know you could go beyond something that does not have an end That would defy logic

That is only relative illogical. My body is not me. My pure experience is me. Nothing that you said goes against logic

Don't think of logic as in mainstream science. Think of Illogic as self-contradiction. Like a bomb that could destroy all of Existence.

If consciousness could defy logic it could destroy itself. It could also create Total red and limit the whole nature of absolute infinity. But it cannot not. therefore proves that reality obeys logic

There is nothing outside or beyond the all because it if was the all would not be the all. But it may just be stuff contra-yond the all. Ethan was just using the word "outside" because there is nothing better word for it. Reality is mathematically logical. Nothing in reality can go beyond the number infinity. If reality was mathematically illogical it could

Many have said that it is a false belief that truth must make logical sense. But Truth is logic as it can be like with black holes proven by math. There is only one Totality, right? Even that obeys logic as there could only be one totality, if you could defy logic it could be 1,2,3 infinite, beyond infinite amounts of Totalites I mean logic from absolute infinities point of view There is no exit to absolute infinity. That is an illogical thing

pure consciousness cannot destroy itself, right? This proves that logic has everything to do with the nature of consciousness

Let me ask you another question. Is it possible to prove the nature of absolute infinity by logic and math? Or is it only possible with first-hand experience?

there is nothing beyond absolute infinity and nothing illogical exits, It contra-exits And yes Ethan was my teacher of all of this however just because a scientist has never seen a black hole first-hand does not mean does not mean he could not study the mathematical equations that can prove the nature of Black holes, I am wrong? The difference is when I hear Leo talk about the nature of absolute infinity I have no way to prove that unless I get first hand experince. But with math and logic, I can I definitely don't want to take credit for all of this because Ethan is perhaps the only one that has introduced Logic to the discussion as well as the video "the theory of absolute infinity" I have not seen anyone talk about the logical nature of Reality so I just thought I might start

Reality has infinite possibilities. Anything is possible The number Infinity does not include the negative numbers it excludes them. What is possible is logical What is impossible is illogical (+) = possible (-) = impossible What you call illogical and impossible is still logical and possible. It is just relative Non-logical and impossible. Superman is illogical and impossible relative to us. Yet he exits. Infinite numbers of him. But there is no superman that could Destroy all of Reality. No matter how he destroyed there would always be infinitely more things to destroy (Logic) if he could defy logic he could destroy it all

Don’t mistake correlation with causation. A high conscious being are still capable of strong hate and low conscious strong love. It’s all relative. Good and evil are relative. What hurts one being can bring joy to another.

Logic makes reality limitless. I am just saying everything within Reality obeys to the laws of logic. That is what makes reality limitless. A supernova that could fill up a boundless Reality would destroy everything that you loved. How can you fill up a boundless thing? Defy logic

Reality cannot include anything illogical like a door that let’s you exit absolut infinity. There is nothing beyond absolute infinity. notice How this all makes logical sense So because of everything within exitance is logical that makes exitance logic itself. Because nothing within exitance can break the rules of logic no matter how illogical it might seem to us as humans