Derek White

This question is already answered by him on a different thread if I'm not wrong. Try using the search function for once, or contemplate or google. I mean... I feel your question is below the forum standards.

How are we suppose to do this? The instructions are vague at best.

Yea but it’s sometimes hard for me to see it. I guess he is selfish, impulsive and doesn’t care that much about being a “good politician”, which something orange would care about. It’s more about dominating people for him, like a high school bully.

I mean he’s got sone good content like interviews with Kobe, ex criminals, Deepak Chopra and this guy who is a world champion in memory. His ideology is pretty shit though. I do remember this series of incidents which took place in grade 6 where some random student got hold of others notebooks and ripped each individual page into tiny pieces and hid the destroyed notebook in the class. It was pure hate and jealousy. No one found out who it was. So maybe that was stage red. Other than that I don’t think I know any stage red people.

There is nothing wring with being greedy for sex, money, fame or whatever. The thing is it’s never enough.

@Leo Gura Isn’t bro culture red? It has alpha/beta, victim/oppressor dynamics which should fall under purple and red right? Also, when is stage red video coming out?

Hasan Minhaj is partly green but is still dominantly orange. His comedy style of packing as many jokes as he can, love for New York and hustle, immigrant mindset, competitiveness, and his way of dressing and talking is indicative of orange values. This is what late stage orange looks like. Compare his comedy to George Carlin’s and you can see a very big difference. Hasan’s comedy feels like he said, “okay, I’m going to do everything tangible to be a better comedian.” Whereas George is like, “I’m just going to speak about my observations.”

I can’t believe no one posted my man Patrick Bet David from Valuetainment. His channel is truly amazing for integrating orange or just learning from skilled people. He is solid ? .

@Serotoninluv On the subject of childhood abuse, I find this series of essays by George Orwell very relate able to my school days in India. I thought since you are around students and interested in childhood abuse you might find it interesting, especially something like this coming from a famous thinker like Orwell. My experience wasn't exactly the same as I never got canned or lived in the dorm but the emotions, the thinking and the how corporal punishment felt was very similar. https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/joys/english/e_joys @kieranperez Yes that is very true. One thing I see is that many new age people say they can see auras, read energies and intuitively know what to do. Now it begs the question, can you actually read people's energy or are you subconsciously prejudiced and judging them? It's like the classic racist interviewer example. The interviewer says, "Hey you're just not the right fit." when rejecting candidates. But everyone around them knows they're just rejecting people based on race, religion, caste, or some dumb stuff like tattoos. And many times the interviewer may genuinely feel they are rejecting people based on their intuition, but people around them can usually tell that intuition is just a farce to hide the subconscious. This is why precise thinking and contemplation is important. Idk if astrology, zodiac signs, horoscope, intuition, energies or auras actually exist. They probably do, intuition I think does. But I seriously doubt people who read others that way, especially if they learned it from Youtube or some new age website/person. I'm very skeptical of them. It is can be used as a cover for prejudice.

Hahaha

@SOUL @Raptorsin7 I guess that's why I and many others need to do the 'work'. Let's not derail this thread more

@SOUL Seems you ignored my comment.

When it comes to mathematics you can teach them euclidean geometry. I enjoyed it vert much, specially the proofs. The thinking required to do that type of geometry is really helpful in contemplation and life in general. I think many math teachers gloss over axioms and the many assumptions that are inherent to math. I think Leo also made a video on infinity, Godel's incompleteness theorem, strange loops, and quantum mechanics. Maybe you can explain those concepts to your students, don't show them the Leo's video, but maybe explain the math and science behind it. Oh, maybe introduce them to paradoxes. Paradoxes are a must. I think there are so many cool topics, don't just stick to boring graphs and calculus. I think the key is to teach them to question every little detail, this would most likely get them to stage yellow level of thinking. Teach them what the difference between a theorem and axiom is. Teach them what a point and line actually is.

@Leo Gura I think this sounds like a good idea. Maybe you can put limits on how many times in a day one can reply to a thread. Like after a certain number of posts there is a time limit before one can post again. The moderators and you can be exempted from this rule.

I think it 'exists'. I don't think you can put it into words or communicate it, that would imply the person you are communicating to has already experienced it. Enlightenment is looking at reality the way it is. I'm trying to become more conscious at the present moment. There are things that I grasp and then lose, there are things I'm unconscious of, I want to understand reality at a deeper level than I'm currently at. To me you sound like a nihilist, which is perfectly fine, I am one too. I also realize that values, meaning, and importance are not real. They are created. I think many people here understand that too. But that's not why we are here, we understand that well enough. One of the reasons we are here is because we want to understand reality at deeper levels, which won't happen if one sits at home playing video games, at-least not for everybody. I realize I don't have to do it: I choose to do it. You realize that everything is meaningless but do you realize how reality is manifested? Are you fully conscious of your unconscious thoughts? Do you care to understand other aspects of reality in depth? Do you care about these things? Because we care a lot and if you don't you're probably wasting your time here. People realize everything is meaningless here. That's not the point of this community.

@SOUL “(If you doubt enlightenment this forum isn't for you.)” - User Guidelines

@Leo Gura How do you plan to deal with the gender wars happening in the relationships sub? The arguments are endless, they are not there to learn.

@Emerald The comment you made suggested you were okay with females being sexist because of their collective wound. That’s why I asked you to clarify. Anyway, i think you are missing a major component of the male perspective in your world view. I, and some others, have tried to share it but have received mostly nasty and hateful responses, even though what I am saying is very similar to what Leo is saying, if not exactly the same. There is no point in sharing it now because it falls on deaf ears and I get shooed away. What is even weirder is that there are men who have said worse here, but they don’t get as much hate as I do. As you probably know, men have collective wounds too. I think if women made an attempt to understand what these men are saying, we would see a decrease in the Incel and MGTOW movements. As you probably know, these movements are growing worldwide along side with the extreme right wing and that partially has to do with people hating them and not understanding them. Just like any movement, they have a kernel of truth too. I also think your generalization of younger men is off the mark. So let me tell you my distorted and biased male perspective. This may sound harsh but I think younger women don’t have any desire to understand men. There is no reciprocity. They just want men to understand THEM. They don’t want to change, they want a man to approach them who is the right fit. I don’t think women make any effort to actually fit into what men want, no that would be sexist. Women don’t even know what they want, they always give vague answers like love, connection, loyalty, etc. and men who listen to that are unsuccessful. Men can actually see that there are certain personality and physical traits women want but they will never be upfront about it. Men are constantly trying to seek advice and change themselves, I actually do not see women doing that, here or anywhere. I don’t think they even hold the male perspective on the same level as the female perspective. Male perspective is somehow lower In their mind So ya. I think I’m gonna stop now since there is no point in arguing. I think I’m going to stop visiting and commenting on this sub.?

I think I’ve met them. (Many floating around in the forum, but don’t tell them).?

interesting.

@Leo Gura Earlier you said masculinity is imposing one’s will on the world. Would you then say that masculinity is devilry? Since imposing one’s will means to manipulate the world into being a certain way, freezing it, and defending and attacking other forms. Is masculinity = survival = devilry?

@electroBeam A few days ago I was at a library and this woman took off her shoes. I was so turned on by her feet that I ended up reading erotic entries on Quora for the entire study period (it’s a library, you can’t watch porn). After that I was turned on for like the next 12 hours. @Leo Gura Have you actually tried to reduce your sex drive?

@EmeraldYou can say the same for men. Why do you tolerate sexism from women and not men? It is the meanest thing you can say to a man as a woman, other than falsely accusing him of a crime. Calling them sexists makes them defend their position more, I would say you can almost guarantee he will never change his position, now that you have said he’s a sexist. If you want to change their minds try to give counter arguments. I think there are two groups here, one believe relationships are selfless and without manipulation, and the other believes manipulation and selfishness from both sides are necessary parts of relationships. Emotion vs. Logic. The truth is somewhere is the middle here but we need to understand the perspectives on both sides and criticize them. This will involve a negative reaction from both of them. I personally lean a bit to the logic side, but hey that’s just me.

@Anna1 Sorry to post again, but while I hear your complaints against men, I have come across similar stereotyping from women. One literally read, “Men are always shallow, they go for looks.” As a man who doesn’t date women for sex, IMO men can have purely sex based relationships ethically and without breaking women’s hearts. I don’t think learning to present yourself well (which I think is PUA) so that women like you is any more manipulative than wearing makeup or good clothes. Hope these opinions are not too controversial.

@Anna1, @Emerald is not the only psychoanalyst here. One user has previously diagnosed another as having a mental illness and another as having the Dunning Kruger effect. They have also somehow read people’s “vibes” or “energies”. They never responded to the original points though, which shifted the conversation and some good points were lost ☹️ Users should attack people’s points not their personalities. There should be consequences for mean spirited sarky comments and those who attack people’s character. People should try to be as neutral, objective, and logical in their responses as possible (like a professional email). If someone is wrong tell them why they are wrong by proving counter arguments. Calling them “sexist”, “arrogant”, telling them how you feel or leaving a sarcastic comment just makes them more defensive.