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Take a big dose psychedelic and find out.

I wouldn't close that chapter too fast though. "I don't know" might perhaps be a better stance. But I understand where you are coming from.

@LfcCharlie4 Not trying to be mean, but this might come off as harsh while that's not my intention. Have you considered that you may suffer some bit of the Dunning-Kruger-Effect? The fact that you're at a very young and have this need to "teach people" here on the forum when that's really Leo's job. Being at such a young age, there will come a time when one realizes there is much more depth to all this, that realizing the false self is not close to enough to be teaching this work. Until one stops linking and quoting other teachers, he's not ready to teach. I recall you saying often to the likeness of "back when I was a hardcore 17-year-old seeker"; well put your self now in the shoes of 40 year old you, and look back at how you'd feel about that 20 year old version of you.

@Schahin Where are you getting all these numbers? lol ? You are imagining this text right now, are you not aware of that? Are you not aware of THIS?

@Prevailer Believe no one yes. It's all about your own direct experience and keeping an open mind. ?

Are you not afraid of losing that purpose the deeper you dive into god consciousness and exploration of reality? Unless it's correlated with that.

@Prevailer

I wouldn't personally keep them fixated on one point. I usually take my eyes out of focus so I'm allowing all the experience to happen equally, not giving any one point of my awareness more focus than another. But I usually do it with closed eyes.

Beautifully said! Resistance is truly the root cause of suffering.

@Annoynymous Yes, he is one of the most important civil right activists of our time.

Jesse Jackson has endorsed Bernie and that's exactly what was needed, more african-american voters.

@remember Right on

@remember I find it best to think of the spiral as a big swimming pool filled with all the colors, with some mixing into others at some points. I'd say every color has some piece of the "Idea" of the heart chakra, but are not there physically. As in their kundalini energy has not risen. A mother at stage purple has a deep love for her child. But it also depends on how one defines the heart chakra. If you're talking about it as a physical state of being or a place where one taps into love and connection. Since the universe is driven only by love and goodness it would be incorrect to say that those lower stages don't contain any love. It can get a bit tricky when mixing the chakras with the spiral colors, but I'd say we're on the same page. It's just a matter of interpretation and such.

@remember Yeah, I was more so talking about healthy blue, not toxic. I wouldn't call toxic blue, a true blue; more so red in progress with red shadows, addictions and allergies.

Why do thou blaspheme?

@remember They can not be more about the heart chakra since blue has been through those stages, and transcended and included those values. Purple operates mostly from the 2nd chakra, while red is on the 3rd. Stage blue is the first one to leave from egocentric, and emerge into ethnocentric, to take the mind of other.

Why would God limit his creation to have no free will?

That's awesome man! You're doing great, and showing a lot of yellow values. Addictions tend to come as backlashes when the ego starts to drift away. For me, I usually just play the addictions out if they come back for a week or two. After that, it's easier getting back up on that horse again. Many don't know that stage blue is actually the first stage to inhabit some of the heart chakra, which explains their deep passion and love for law and community, but only THEIR! community, you better abide by it or you'll be thrown out of the pack. I could not recommend the book "Religion Of Tomorrow" by Ken Wilber enough for you. It's essentially the only book you need for now. Treat it like your bible. It goes way deeper than Spiral-Dynamics and explains all the traps and pitfalls, integrations, addictions, allergies, etc.

What I find most interesting is how he is going completely public about how all other teachers do not possess the highest teachings. Which is a very BOLD statement. But I know he has studied many of these masters deeply for years; and to come out and say that Jesus, The Buddha, Ralston, etc, are not truly awakened. Then maybe he is onto something, it's a ballsy move and extremely anti-authority, as one should be. There comes a time where one has to go at it alone and deny all external information because you are all alone here. I'm writing this message, reading it, processing it through the computer, being crucified in Jerusalem, jumping out of a twin tower, being hung in Liberia, making love through Osho. These masters were most definitely very awake. It's just funny what a turn Leo has taken, and I quite like it. ?

@RendHeaven A sub-personality is an I that won't become a "me/mine". And thus either remains embedded in the central "I" as fixation or splits off as a sub-"I" or subpersonality (dissociation), both of which are unconscious, or not proper object of awareness (that is a subject at that stage that fails to become an object of the subject of the next stage, and thus distorts and tears the developmental process itself, keeping parts of the "I" arrested and attached to the elements of the earlier stage, and ripping off parts of consciousness that should be continuing their "transcending and including" growth and development to even higher and wider stages of awareness). In this situation, either the "transcend" or the "include" part has become busted, broken, torn, or misnavigated, leaving only roadkill in its wake. -Ken Wilber An Ego death would certainly awaken all of those identities, where one would become aware of all of these shadows and stages.

Some of the deepest sessions I've done were with some ambient mix playing. Once you go deep enough though, it doesn't really matter if you've got music playing or not. There will be nobody to hear the music, only music will hear itself. Like a famous Zen Master said when he got his enlightenment, When I heard the bell ring, suddenly there was no ‘I’ and no ‘bell,’ just ringing.”

"In the end, It's all infinite love..."

I know you said this as a joke, but I just feel the need to add. Being on a psychedelic is the furthest thing from a high one could imagine. It's more like life was the high and what you just took woke you up. It not as easy as it sounds to just pop a psychedelic from time to time; it takes tremendous mental courage often because they will drown you with your deepest fears if you have not purified your soul yet. We agree on what God is. But why not go onto explore things such as collective consciousness, omniscience, how reality is expressed through infinite goodness and love, instead of becoming an athlete or a coffee shop worker. There are such infinitely intelligent creations to explore through these mystical stages via psychedelics, higher consciousness beings to contact and learn from. Instead of isolating oneself here on earth.

That's why you combine psychedelics with other practices. God created reality to experience itself. There is nothing else to do than to seek more God. You don't just stop and live out your life like you've made it.

@Fenir Get lost devil. A baby is not a baby until it develops an ego and a sense of survival.