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Schahin replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Basically I am creating my Reality right? So Id like to have this mentioned reality, how is that not possible if I created my Reality? How do I create this reality anyway? -
Schahin replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It is basically the core aspect of the teachings here that you are god. I also couldn't believe it but, if you contemplate it, who else should be? -
Schahin replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Brother quick question, this confuses me huge times. I really love your insights and curiously follow them and use them to realize the same it helped alot. But at some points I find it confusing. Is this new insight not something that goes against all previous ones? Ill list them here 1.No free will/No control: We (humans) have no control whatsoever even if raising our finger or deciding to become lazy and lie on the couch forever (which I saw in your free will and live enlightenment video) that nothing is in the humans control. Even Ramana Maharshi said everything even the finger raising is already predetermined, which brings to the second point. - > 2.infinite intelligence: god is infinitely intelligent, comparing him to a game designer or a country in which neither the designer nor the goverment know what the citizens or the players will do because they are not infinitely intelligent and cannot foresee any unfolding, in contrast infinite intelligence knows everything and is everything so how can it be suprised by itself? Wouldnt this mean that God needs to think and become sceptic in his decision and doesnt create instantly and superconsciously with infinite intelligence? 3. Twoness/Duality: saying that the government doesnt know what the citizens do, or the gamedesigner doesnt know how the players play. Or the legocreator that wont know what the child builds of it all imply one and other/twoness/separation. However god and the humans are not separate so he should definitely know what will happen, if saying there is any kind of human independence creation isn't that just saying that there is one tiny little thing remaining that Is separate from God and not in gods control? One more timeThank you @Leo Gura for being available always I learned alot through your webpage. -
Schahin replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I don't take God for a moron, I'd just like to know who is In control in order to be relieved of anything that happens and be considered as a misfortune, bad luck, crisis, tough times. Is it him, is it us, is it mostly him and a little tiny bit us or is it always him as there is nothing else than him. Like how can this limited portion of gods infinite will which is proportioned ultimatey to a tiny bit of human will (which is weird because the human is god) how can this freedom be seen in an example in daily life. Like when and in which situation could it apply? I can't see the difference here between our portion of gods infinite will and his Infinite will because we are the exact same, how can I act independently that is not gods decision. How Can he/me create Players and gives them a tiny bit of independence, if all the players are him, how did they get independence then? Like when I become mentally ill, was that my human fault or was that gods will. If it remains gods will then he/me basically writes your entire lifestory, if not and it was your human fault then you are seriously in bad luck/trouble (in These Situations it helps to know if we little humans are even a tiny percentage responsible for what happens to us or from us) Would be nice to see when exactly it isn't God that performs something. Ramada Maharshi said every little detail of one's life is predetermined, I am wondering why there Can ve different insights in non duality -
Schahin replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I see. But when you say parents and children it implies that the children are an offspring of the parents but not actually their parents. Now all living beings are directly God so if God plans a beautiful story with no coincidences, how is the human (who is God). Being able to act independently. This would mean there is someone else other than God. Namely a human who thinks is free and only a "child" of god playing on the playground with certain limits. But isnt everything god and all conpletely contained in this one's God infinite will and Beautiful story which is superconsciously and super intelligently played out? If i as a human have an independent small portion of God's free will, this ould only say that there is also some independent portion of freedom which is not bound directly to God -
Schahin replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura "As humans you have a portion of my Infinite Will, but your will must be limited because you are limited, and you enjoy existing as finite beings. Your own being limits your freedom and therefore your will. " I am not quite sure what this ultimately means, so humans are limited and therefore aren't having infinite divine free will, but having a portion of the will does it mean there is a tiny decision scope/space where humans are free to choose independently themselves for their lives, or what does not mean? The will is limited through being finite and limited as a human, butnlikited will means that there still remains human free independent will? What did you understand by this? -
Hi there, I was just thinking about this, if all our problems and "self inflicted" worries ( I say self inflcited, because we do not want or choose them to be with us, but at the end if everything is me then of course they are self-inflicted) If all this just vanishes the moment we awaken and we realize that it was all an illusion, does God or we, want to learn something with them and therefore gain something. I can imagine that even infinite love and intelligence can always gain something, even if it gains something towards infinity. I imagine they open more doors towards infinity where even more complex and creative stories evolve in which more things are to be learned. Or is it maybe not true and it is all just to be? I imagine the earth as a school of love or school I general where God wants to learn how it is to be separate and realize that the only answer can be love, but while experiencing it, it gets to know itself and can learn a bunch of lessons from itself too, like how it is to be a human, or a human In a stessfull place and environment, how to maintain patience, know that love is the key and so on. Also every timephase and historical epoche and everh lifeform can bring something to learn and accumulate precious data. Or maybe it is that God already knows absolutely everything and there is nothing to be learned , which for me seems odd, because why does God incarnate then? It would not have a reason to incarnate and pretend you are not you if there is nothing to learn, or is God just bored?
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What is the point of all the Hindu, African and other gods plus Jesus, Krishna and Ganesha and basically all saints and angels? There are so many traditional events and rituals In honour of these gods and saints. Many participants of such events say they could heal themselves through these benevolent spirits and others enter in trance being incorporated by them and retell that they couldnt remember anything. I myself have after a psychedelic felt Jesus presence for a few seconds and it was without a doubt him, I could recognize his goodness, love and peace everybody talked about, when I felt his presence I knew directly it was him, there was no nanosecond of doubt, he presented himself and it was crystal clear, like the most kind person ever existed. Also the San Pedro/Peyote cactus gods/spirits, mother Ayahuasca, the Salvia gods, archangel Gabriel, the ocean GodessYemanja, the warrior God Ogum, the fertility god/dess and so on.... It does seem that they (even them being us) have a distinct role on the unfolding of our reality. Many say they control aspects of your human character, tragedies and global happenings In general like a management team of lovong spirits for the development of human kind (even if to some people, that seems odd). I know ultimately I am God and everything, but what is the point of all these invisible spirits and gods, that are me anyway and rarely show up other then being honoured in a ritual
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Schahin replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hmmm but these are actual spirits, like so myself felt Jesus spirit with my whole being, it was right after a 5 Meo dmt attempt and it was crystal clear that it was him. I am totally sure ever since that Jesus is an always present extremely benevolent and loving spirit. It is not that he only used to be a human, when he presents himself you feel extreme love radiated by him even when everything else does not radiate love. People that take psychedelics also report about, the plant gods: spirit of mother ayahuasca, peyote spirit/god, salvia goddess and also non psychedelic godesses like the ocean goddess the rock gods, where people certainly feel their presence. Ultimately we are all one, but what is the purpose of an invisible spirit not showing itself to you, until dead? I think there is actually way much more involved in the mystery we live in -
How do these two combine? If everything comes into being just in an autonatic flow because it simply is, How is divine intelligence connected to that coming into being in order to create an intelligent story by actively and consciously creating situations, creating languages and creating the creativity of world itself (oceans, mountains, forests, diversity, birds, evolution, wildlife) *into the experience that and every situation which ultimately is non coincidental in each of our lives? For me it seems that divine intelligence is higher than simply things being or things issing What are other opinions?
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Schahin replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If they are chaotic and non-linear, how is the active and conscious creation of intelligent lifeforms,landscape, family constellations, language, character based on astrology/star constellations......... and so many more things that are ultimately all intelligent,like the internal life of a cell with all its perfect mechanisms of cellularwork which seems like a whole universe and lifeform to itself, just regarding how complex and perfect cells and DNA work in a microlevel in order to create the macroworld in all its splendor. If being is an automatic flow then shouldn't intelligence be an active conscious form of creation? How does being become so perfectly intelligent, at least in our physical world where everything from the big oceans landscapes, language, adaption of animals tk any kind of environment by evolution, diversity of animals, all kinds of plant medicines that perfectly suit all kinds of illnesses in the human being up to the beautiful and harmonious life of a single lifecell which is so intelligent and perfect and like literally trillion other things that seem so completely intelligent? maybe there are other worlds were everything just is and is totally chaotic and not intelligent who knows Being, for me means just that everything has to exist, as everything could be a relative truth forming the absolute truth, but the relative truths in our world just seem so extremely and perfectly well designed that on top of there are not happening coincidences in the world, which ultimately means that intelligent creation is a step further then only being, and it means that intelligent creation is an active and conscious act but not an automatic flow. Jus wanted to know opinions on how being and divine intelligence combine and work together -
Schahin replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
At the end it means we humans have absolutely no control, it is always in our subconscious that everything is being done every single act, even when I itch my nose (ridiculous example but it is in order to reassure what I mean) it is an act of super highly conscious intelligent act. At the end I could not have not itched my nose, itching my nose was the only thing possible in that moment because God (my subconscious) wanted it. Another example, I just walk down the street get hit by a car and then will be disabled in some form, this is gods will, could it in any way have happened that I had not been hit by the car? Or does gods will mean that it had to happen. Thats where I am asking, is there no single tiny bit of free will that the human has? Kind of like. Human automony as god incarnate and free. Ramana Maharashi said that everything into the little details is predetermined, which is something I could read here, is not so embraced on the forum. Not Ramana but the predetermination. Ramana, having read about his life, pretty soon came to know that this reality does not exist and that there is no doer, and he advicated self inquiry as the way to go to find out -
I am sorry for these questions but some things get me intriguing In how God's creation and therefore every act committed on earth works. I am wanting to know if people that turn to crime, be it rape, robbery or corrupt politicians, is this all gods will and gods intelligence that wants it like this or is it just the human being that lost its connection towards god or towards its own spirit and now his ego is acting without gods control? If someone goes rape another person, is this a divine intelligent move or just stupid lost human evil. When the farmers in Brazil torched thousands of hectars of precious Amazon rainforest and therefore worsened global warming killed immense amount of wildlife and indigenous territory, was this the highest of divine intelligence or was it human beings that have not come into contact yet with their divine essence and therefore committed crimes
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What means nothing is random? Does it mean every single step we do is highly intelligent design to maximize love, even if we are not directly experiencing it as intelligent? If absolute infinity and absolute love and god is everything wouldnt then no matter what happens be highly inteligent even if it was random? Or is it a special intelligent unfolding that our higher self knows its intelligent but iur ego does not realize its intelligence? How could unfolding of reality not be intelligent if everything is the sun total of infinite intelligence? Can god also create a non random reality, what is the difference? Is not random much deeper and more intelligent then justyfying everything being divine? Its not random in order for consciousness to maximize love but what does maximizing love mean, does it mean add more love towards infinity? And how could we even perceive or realize that things are not random, things are only not random if they lead somewhere in this case, but where is it leading not randomly? maximizing love? , but what is maixmizing love and how can we become conscious of its non random mechanism. Does maximizing love mean god/I partake in certain life missions and emotional experiences that "seem" to oppose divine love or any sensation which is not divine love by experiencing the opposite through survival and ego filters, love is infinitely maximized?
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Schahin replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Serotoninluv so if in our current reality nothing happens out of confidence and it is a great story God is writing in order to maximize love. How can I as god not be completely conscious of the highly complex, not random and highly conscious nd intelligent unfolding of this reality? Does awakening help in cocreating this story and understanding and foreseeing of its non-random unfolding, or does the godhead ultimately work in the background? In the end if we are, should we not at some point after awakening know about the non random unfolding or our own reality and know all about it and its complexity? I suppose the answer that gods intelligence and complexity cannot be described in human words is a good one, but doesn't that imply that we the godhead is not itself immersed in this reality but works as the non dual pure consciousness in the background? -
Schahin replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Let me define it differebtly. I said cause and effect appears in case that our life and story is happening coincidentally . That means everything that happens, happens due to immediate events and situations before that caused it. No councidences would mean that maybe it is not only due to cause and effect but a deliberately intelligent unfolding of events, situations and happenings. I am asking it because I saw on two occasions Leo saying that nothing is random and there are no coincidences and the goal of a not random creation is maximizing divine love. Naturally I became curious of how this mechanism unfolds and what maximizing love means. And how I as God could possibly be conscious of this mysterious unfolding, because finally I am god but it still is mysterious or do the enlightened ones know better? -
Schahin replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Random as in spontaneous unfolding only due to cause and effect. Or be it mere coincidences and that everything could also have happened in an entirely different way in this "physical lifetime" if only other choices had been taken. Not random means no coincidences the story of this lifetime is being writte/told/experienced by god with a highly intelligent unfolding in a complex and mysterious way that doesnt make sense to the regular eye but which has a deep goal (other than being) and a deep purpose, which could be maximizing the love of the divine, but not in a random, coincidental only being, but in highly complex and intelligent physical world unfolding story -
Schahin replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Not random also means, having encountered this Forum here without any Spiritual Background and then through Reading started and attained the path of enlightenment. Was it a coincidence or Part of the highest of intelligent steps. Or for example, some Family Member of Yours has a Heart Attack and no matter what you do you cannot get her into Hospital, First the telephoneline cuts, then you Encounter Your car is broken. Then When finally found a phone the Ambulance gets stuck in traffic. Or you take a psychedelic and instead of enlightenment you become mentally ill. Could it gave even in any way other than it happened or was the way it happened the only way imaginable for God on planet earth 2019 Many other examples also where we constant ask ourselves was this here coincidence or was it a planned step of the highest intelligence? -
@Serotoninluv Amazing. Out of curiosity what is the use of Ayahuasca then if the cactus gives you a transcendental experience without existential terror and only transmits you the love that you are. I like Ayahuasca and find it a highly divine medicine, but it is very hard and relentless though. Do you find the teachings different do they have different messages to convey? I know Aya opens the third eye and I think the cactus works on the heart chakra
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What are important differences between these two psychedelics? Do they both lead the way to enlightenment? After regular usage at least? Are they transcendental and ego dissvoling and therefore lift the veil of reality and maybe even experience no self? Which one will ultimately show the notion of oneness? And which one has more of a healing and teacher aspect to it?
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Schahin replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Random I mean that things Happen without coincidence. You having an awakening experience for example, was it a spontaneous coincidence that also could have not happened to you? World war 1 and 2 was it a coincidence or was it Something important for the people to go through certain emotional responses or even as a base ground for future events. You meeting certain people in life, is it random or is it necessary for your particular story? Or could you have met other people too and it wouldn't have made a difference Many things I would say explain randomness and not randomness. It is still very tricky and mysterious even if things are not random and there is a great great novel and storytelling in this Physical world which is incredible , on what base is it incredible then? On the base that god is trying to find out how much he can delude himself or even go to the edge of desperation just to find out that it was an illusion or is there more depth and importance to it. Its funny how I ask these things, because I am basically god asking what my mystery is about. But how do I or you even create this story? Merely by physical action, where do the instructions come from in order to write a non random highly intelligent story? Is the god me an omnipotent awoken god that gives mr and my story highly intelligent instructions moment by moment or is he/am I not awoken yet and the story gets created not really highly intelligent but rather unconscious? If nothing is random and it is highly intelligent and I am god how can I not foresee the mechanism of the story unfolding and look into it and maybe even find out something about the future? -
I remember Ayahuasca can give the experiencer existential terror, does this happen with the cactus too?
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Schahin replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Doesn't the fact of infinite co authors and infinite possibilities not make the totality both random and not random? Infinite possibilities means everything possible, so random and not random collapse in it, but actually it would be more random, because anything is possible created by infinite cocreators. Not random would imply that certain things are possible in a certain path so there are no concidences and all is written in a script not independently created by cocreators that do things randomly as they want In infinity both would be true, but in this limited perspective rather the random one unless there is something that "shall" happen -
Schahin replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura i imagine it is big and epic. But intellectually speaking, if it is the total of all stories that could possibly be told then everything would be random and not random at the same time, because what would not random even mean if all possibilities could happen and do actually happen (in parallel realities I suppose) ?