Waken

I asked someone who is teaching me some processes about psychedelic usage, and I'd like to share what he mentioned. I don't believe he knows the ins and outs of it, he's not an expert in it, doesn't have mystical insight in it, perhaps never used it himself and what he shared might just be passed down information and/or partly his own thoughts. I said that to get it out in front, so it doesn't need to be repeated for a variety of reasons. It wasn't a long talk on it, but maybe it adds something useful for people who don't know it's safe to use psychedelics and to what extent they can be a tool for liberation. He has worked under Kaleshwar, who was quite a powerful master/guru. The focus on the processes he knows are of an energetic nature, involving lots of mantra-based practices, working with the 5 elements and such. Okay this is basically what I remember him saying in a nutshell: If you are in a depression or something, sure you can use it to get yourself out of it. You're trying to meditate and it's not working, you're not in a good mental space and you feel that for example lighting a joint or microdosing helps you, okay do it, it's fine. I don't think these things will cause you much damage. However you don't want to be dependent on them and if you can do without them, I would do without them. If you come into high experiences, you'll know that no doubt that psychedelics can not take you there. It doesn't compare. You must do it yourself, it must be authentic, it must be your own energy doing it/getting you there, not the energy from the psychedelic (I think that last part is what he said/meant). In certain (high level) processes psychedelics are/can be used to balance the energies of the elements (referring to the 5 elements, I don't know what he meant by balancing it exactly). For example, Neem Karoli Baba (not sure if this was the guru he mentioned, or that he mentioned another one) used to smoke cooled down lava through a metallic pipe (something like this, don't remember exactly) to balance or heal something. But he knew what he was doing, he wouldn't do it a lot. In general don't use them if you don't have too. Again, no need to hold him as an expert on it. But I like to share, as it's information I would liked to have known myself.

Of course it doesn't literally make sense, I know that too. But now you just analyze it in literal way, instead of responding to what he meant. I could also say that you literally are meditation and yoga, so notions like 'I also practise meditation and yoga pretty relentlessly' lose all meaning, because how could you practise yourself. That last line is good advice, already stopped trusting them for a while though Hi thanks, could you expand on what you mean? What's the error in his message? Sure, you can't make a distinction between tripping and 'real life' in that sense, but I don't see how you could deduce from that that everything that is possible using a sober state has to be the same with the use of psychedelics.

Just giving my thoughts on some of your questions, as I don't know the answer to all of them. If you're interested in breathwork, you might want to check out https://breathworkonline.com/workshops/ I found Michael online sessions amazing. You could do just a couple online sessions, and try it on your own afterwards, or get a subscription so you can just do as much as you want for 48 bucks or something per month. You might find these sessions a lot more powerful, pleasant and fun when doing them from Michael with a group than the Shamanic Breathing. Okay you notice stuck emotions within yourself. You do not need to know where an emotion is coming from to heal or release it. I used to practice a lot on focusing on emotions and dissolving them that way. That however was way too time-consuming and not effective enough. When an emotions comes up, I feel it and be with it, otherwise, I leave it and do some processes. Of course there are many ways to go at releasing emotions, as that's pretty much what all processes are for. You probably want a good consistent practice for healing oneself, and there are many many that do just that, for example Isha center has good ones, or the breathwork is also good, or whatever else. I wouldn't take awakening Kundalini as a goal, but then rather to heal oneself. Pranayama is a good practice I'm pretty sure, it will heal you and get you in a good energetic state. I don't know a lot about it though. I would do a practice that resonates with you. Lately I'm doing certain mantra-based practices which I love and am going deep with.

@ivankiss ???

Is following once passion/doing what attracts you in the moment all that needs doing? (yes that's Bashar for ya:-) ) I've been wanting to get in contact with a (not earthly) guide, like a guardian angel, because I sometimes feel like using my own limited sight and insight isn't the most intelligent thing. What do you think?

@Jude_ I just stumbled upon this video: It's the same content of the book I wrote about. This guy is the proof that LSD can be a real way towards enlightenment. I find his descriptions absolutely beautiful, wonderful wonderful wonderful His experiences on LSD have been for about half of all his sessions about grueling cleansing. @Leo Gura "Yes, of course states are not stages. I have never claimed they were. I don't claim to have reached the highest stages, but only the highest states." watch the video above from 38:00 to 40:30 if it interest you. It's about him sharing how he came to understand or think that there is no highest state. Not saying there isn't because he says so, because idk

@Jude_ Nice message, I enjoyed it Maybe you'd be interested to know about Christopher M. Bache, who wrote LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven. The guy took 73 very high LSD doses over the course of 20 years. He purified lots and lots and went deeper than he ever had thought possible, and then further and further. He stopped after 20 years as he felt it was enough. While meditating he heard from Spirit '20 years in, 20 years off' meaning he should be off LSD for 20 years. Christopher mentioned though (after his 20 years) that he felt that even 20 years wasn't enough to integrate it all. Now I don't know about Leo's, but perhaps he'll naturally reach a point where he feels like he has enough, when his system says it's enough. Idk. I have some doubts that if there is genuine passion, someone could be lead astray by it. Then I don't know if Leo acts out of genuine passion in contradiction to anxiety I've become a little cautious of psychedelics myself partly because I've heard that they can clog up ones system, and can result in one losing the consciousness that he/she was intending to acquire with them over time.

You experience what you know. If you want knowing to mean the same as being aware, then go at it. By your definition, everybody knows they are the unchanging then. Yet ask someone on the street and they won't have a clue. Not wanting to talk further though, so last post here Oops

Sure, in a sense. I said knowing the unchanging, which is about experiencing consciously.

That doesn't contradict that 'true' feelings (not the feelings that are result from thought) can be (one of the) guides in life. True feelings never lead one astray. Truth itself, can communicate with feelings. Not listening to that, or acknowledging the role and value these feelings have, I would say involves 'denial' on some level. Go and be with the unchanging, not listening to your feelings, and see how far you get. Yes if you want to know the unchanging, and you can dive straight into the unchanging then go right at it. But that's not the case for most, and life involves more then being with the unchanging

It is very reliable to listen to feelings for what you are. Because hidden in your feelings are the highest truths. Denying feelings its proper place is not wisdom, but a recipe for suffering and confusion

Some feelings are the results of thought, yes that's true and good to mention. Saying that as long as there is mind identification all feelings are false and steering away from truth is not true.

By listening to the body, I mean listening to feelings. Feelings are the language of the soul, and so they serve as the perfect guide

Hi kireet, I understand you might not be looking for this suggestion, but I wanted to add it anyway. For myself I don't have a sense of 'I want to do X amount of theoretical learning like with books, and X time on practices', but just seeing and doing what I feel like doing now. Sometimes it can be reading a book or more books in a week, with maybe 1 hour of practices, then the next week I feel like doing just some practices and no reading for some time. This approach I think is the best way to go at it, what you feel attracted to is often what is best for you, so making use of this natural inborn intelligence is sensible. It's also of course therefore, much more sustainable and much more fun, as you're doing what you really want to do. In addition to that, you're learning to listen to the body, instead of the mind

Lol, thanks for the laugh

There are also techniques to help you release trauma, such as the feelings around the memory of sucking at public speaking. You can also visualize yourself being good at public speaking. Imagine how relaxed you're talking to groups of people, imagine how it would make you feel to be so calm and carefree, etc.

There are no high consciousness hobbies. It's not about the hobby, it's about how you do it. Do the thing that you love most doing, and it'll be the most consciousness/you raising for you

Thank you for your perspective on it

@Serotoninluv Yes I love the permission slip idea. However I'm still struggling with it at some points. Because he says, ALL techniques and tools are merely permission slips. Could you answer me how a psychedelic is a permission slip?

You would have to completely overlook all the on-point insights and knowledge that he gives, to do the thinking you do. You'll also have to overlook the amazing wit that Daryl himself doesn't seem to possess, and such things. If you look for falsity, you'll find examples, If you look for proofs for authenticity, you'll find examples.

Didn't Alan Watts once say 'man plans and God laughs'. For myself I don't make plans like you do, you don't know what you really need and how to get what you need anyway. And also you don't know what life has in stock for you. Throw all advice and plans in the wind, and see them as just possible inspiration. In the moment decide what you would love to do now, and do that. Or not, if the plan excites you, go with it. But once the juice goes out of the fantasy/plan, and it doesn't work, toss it

Please don't do that, i.e. buying every book on the list. You'll waste much time on things that are not relevant for you and you don't have affinity with. Why you don't look for books that actually resonate with you? There are many great books not on Leo's booklist, and not all books on Leo's booklist are great. Of course, you can look through the list for inspiration, as there are great books there that can change your life. But this whole notion of 'Leo's recommendations are the highest stuff and is what I should follow', is incredibly unhelpful and untrue. You are more capable of finding what is good for you then another, and you don't need Leo's list per se to find things that are life-transforming for you. You could even do without any book, if you really want to not self-deceive. One doesn't need a book to be honest in the end, although it can be used ?

@AlwaysBeNice I have the sense you're being a bit of a sneaky trickster here Wishing you well, and thank you for your messages

@AlwaysBeNice Yes well, it sounds indeed to me like you misunderstood his teachings, and then think it's he who's wrong. As Bashar mentioned, when you come into earth you agree to enter with certain agreements, such as hair that grows without needing your conscious effort, or gravity, etc. He didn't say you create those at the conscious mind level.. He also wouldn't say you create your bed, or friends (at the conscious level), but might say that you chose or agreed at some level (doesn't have to be conscious level) to manifest those. Or that you might have chosen or agreed to have these friends pre-birth. Baby didn't manifest itself into existence by belief, but the being came to earth by choice. The last part of the sentence is what Bashar said, the first part is what you made of it and say he said. Very different. Now I dare you, to take or copy any sentence of him of what he actually said that you think is wrong, and put it up here for scrutiny. Hmm, now my sense is that you'll just keep your thought that he is wrong, and don't consider it's you who might have misunderstood. So I suppose I'll just stop commenting if that keeps being the case By no means do I believe Bashars approach and perspectives are the ones everybody should take or are 'the best'. He himself is very open for people gathering what works for them from others. But saying that what he suggests is delusional and 'new age nonsense', as you put it, seems to come from misunderstandings to me.

Passing is 'love for doing' and has nothing to do with craving for experience. Doing what you love is per definition fulfilling. Bashar always says you should see the distinction between anxiety and passion, and I suppose that's where a lot of people go wrong. You show quite some judgement and grudge in your posts here. I think lots of the stuff you quoted of him, and then saying is utter bullshit, isn't bullshit at all, but just how it works. Perhaps you tried some of the things he said out, but misunderstood his message somewhat and thus didn't see the proper results and then put the blame on him.