Emotionalmosquito

I might make my own thread about this tomorrow. There are some other points I didn’t list

Anti covid vaxxer is not equal to anti vaxxer. You can be one without being the other, obviously. im afraid to take it because 1. It’s so new and under researched and 2. Many of my spiritual idols are vehemently against it. Ralph Smart and Teal Swan being two of the main ones. These people are nothing like most of the other far right wing figures we’re seeing speak out against it. Yet they are united by this same issue if for slightly varying reasons. We are seeing stage green and even yellow hippies and deep blue right wingers overwhelmingly sharing the same position. Why? Another point is why so much focus exclusively put towards vaccination, masks, social distancing and so forth yet we hear practically nothing whatsoever as far as supplements, sunlight, eating healthy, breathing and other health boosting activities. The msm doesn’t say a word about boosting your immune system to help your body in case it DOES get the virus. All you hear about is how to avoid it all together. Why is this? Please don’t ban me if my opinion is too radical. These are burning questions in my mind that I want solid answers to. Thanks. edit: ok I just read in a different thread where Leo said the reason why people like Ralph, teal, russel brand (and several others) are anti poke is because they have poor epistemology and are more susceptible to group think because of their involvement in new age. The question remains, These are high profile spiritual leaders. So I don’t see how he can just accuse them of jumping on the bandwagon when they themselves are in very high positions as public voices. I think they mostly came to their own conclusions on the issue. I mean they definitely aren’t cracking out on fox news or anything to get their ideas.

That blows. We need more high status chads like Zac getting deeply involved in global and national efforts to sustainably solve world issues. Like Conner Murphy for instance: he’s the classic example of orange to green+ transformation.

Thanks friend. I love that kind of stuff. Definitely checking it out soon. Also, Fantastic Fungi with Paul Stamets is absolutely legendary. Must watch if you haven’t seen it!

She is supposedly a psychotherapist, neuroscientist and skeptic who opens every thread with a picture of Elizabeth Debicki claiming to be similar in looks as to make herself a more salient character in the minds of the forum's users. Her main objective is to give advice on topics such as dating, lifestyle, emotional struggles and socialization; and the advice is generally really good. But when I come along speaking of things that could help but are outside of the current scientific paradigm, I get intellectually sliced to bacon strips and end up looking half retarded. To be specific, here are my main points that immediately get rejected: • Sexuality is dynamic. It can be channeled and used in other ways besides kink and procreation. Thus intercourse is not an absolute requirement. • Psychedelic therapy is the most effective tool we have to treat all manner of mental health issues, save schizophrenia and other psychoses. (To this she says the best studies she has seen show only a short improvement in mood disorders then quickly loses momentum and does nothing.) • If you tie your fulfillment to things that happen in the outer world, you'll constantly be at the mercy of an ever changing environment. This will lead you in endless circles, forever chasing phantoms of false promises. So the smartest course of action is to train yourself to be at total peace with nothing because nothing can never be taken away. To these points I usually get responses like: "My inner peace would do badly without air." "If you don't understand the need for sex, you have no business preaching pseudo freudian nofap theories." "If psychedelics were any more efficient than current therapy methods they would be used, but they aren't so they aren't." Right. Even though I've linked numerous resources suggesting the contrary and have the irrefutable truth on my side, because my opponent is 10x faster and more articulate than me, I end up looking like a new age puddle of neuro soup. This individual has much more influence and a much louder voice than anyone on that forum. From what I understand she occasionally gives public speeches at seminars full of brilliant people. And has even tried mushrooms herself and spoken at length with others who did. "Yes it's amazing but it has very little significance in the real world. All you're doing is disrupting your brain state for a while and nothing more." This is more frustrating than I care to admit. Part of me thinks I should just let the whole thing go. But I also know how useful this is as debate practice. So any advice on how I could get this person cornered next debate, or any ideas on points I should raise would be greatly appreciated.

We may have to agree to disagree here because I've seen some very insightful posts there on all matter of things from psychedelics to spiritual alchemy, self improvement, meditation and such. Even on the most notoriously disgusting boards. I'm not proud of the amount of time I've spent there so I know what I've seen. They used to post the most horrifyingly disturbing things imaginable quite regularly but not as much any more. Just like LastThursday said to ask: Have i outgrown the group I thought I belonged to? Point being, that may very well be several people there now. Ready for a change but struggling to leave the cesspool they've become so akin to. That was almost me.

Great questions. ⬆️ Those are the first answers that come to mind. Although I might discover more with contemplation. So does this guy

That's a good rule of thumb. But from another angle it could also be said that out of every hundred swine, there may be one or two ready for a new way. "From a small seed a mighty trunk may grow." There is a little fun in it, sure. But mostly I'm just doing it to plant seeds and prepare for future debates. Arguing with such a scholarly word witch is great for sharpening those skills. I get to learn from mistakes anonymously. Like making sure you fully understand the opponent's position before advancing, and controlling rage which probably shows up in some of my posts.

It's only a waste if nothing good comes of it. If as little as one person opens his or her mind to infinite possibility, it's anything but a waste. Yes. The place has a terrible stigma and rightfully so. But not all of it's discussion boards are equally toxic. There are people there who are open to new ideas. I know because I basically grew up on 4chan so gimme a break. Majority vote is I abandon the effort altogether. Instead I'll give it one more go with stronger arguments and if it leads nowhere, I let it go for good. "A fool who persists in his folly becomes wise."

The forum is 4chan if you must know. Rashie - Derogatory for "rationalist" Awesome advice. It's always good to know the counter arguments that way you can see what's coming. And yes, I have been tempted to deviate from main points because it seemed like I was losing. I'll be sure not to do that. @Roy You make a very strong case. The thing to consider is the forum we're talking about contains many people who are fed up with the old and ready for new stuff. And I'm almost certain that at least a few anons recognize the truth in my posts. But this opponent I'm fighting does not, and is proficient at making things look like I'm losing badly. She lumps everything that doesn't fit perfectly within the established system as superstition or pseudoscience. And by doing so, throws the baby out with the bath water big time when it comes to psychedelic therapy and eastern traditions.

@Thomas_VH It does seem like quite the waste of energy at times. The thing is, the forum we're talking about here is occupied by different types of folks with many different world views, mostly depending on what branch of the forum you're on. So it's not really all orange. I've seen very advanced ways of thinking there. And the person in question, by my knowledge of SD would rank at high orange. The place seems like fertile ground for discussion of new ideas. Knowing these things makes me feel like something productive could come of it.

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"To make whole, be whole." Just the sound of that guy's voice alone is like a low level anti anxiety medication

Do social challenges as mentioned in Leo's "how to not give a fuck what people think" video. But get creative and make up lots of your own. Some of my favorites ones are: approaching people and asking "What are you all talking about?" Even if it's just one person alone. give genuine compliments When shopping, as you pull an item from the shelf, ask someone nearby if it's okay with them if you purchase said item. Or even harder, ask someone in front of or behind you at checkout if they'll buy a few of your groceries for you. If you want you can add to it by smiling and saying jk...unless the answer is yes! lol (Surprisingly this has actually worked for me a couple times.) This one is on a whole other level and should only be attempted if you've already become comfortable with the previous challenges and live in a decent sized city. (If your town's population is only 5000 or under you might start to make a name for yourself with stunts like these which can be bad if you aren't prepared for it.) Burst through the doors of one of your local hot spots on a Saturday night, use a loud enough voice to grab everyone's attention and announce how buff you are as you flex and start doing push-ups. This can be replaced with dance, Thai chi etc if you'd rather. Cold exposure is another great area to stretch the comfort zone. Most people can turn there shower fully to cold for ten seconds at the end of the wash. That's a good place to start but try to work up to regular ice water submersions preferably with a friend for safety. It takes the utmost mental fortitude to dedicate to this extreme as a long term practice but it's so worth it. The health benefits are absolutely insane. Lastly and perhaps the most shocking is a little thing I call "erotic reflections". It's basically just masturbating to your own image in the mirror. Take several deep breaths centering yourself in the moment. Shake your body all around or use some physical grounding technique to kill off any bad energy you can. Do not skip this step, you will need it. Most likely you'll be unable to get into the flow at first so you can look the other way to prime your engine then look back at yourself whilst keeping it alive to finish the task. For females this might be more complicated, not sure. If necessary you can start with having a picture or audio track of something that turns you on. Lay the picture beside the sink and refer down to it as many times as you need. However, as you near the finish line be sure to look up and gaze deeply and softly into your eyes. Do not rush through it as if you're just trying to get it over with; but also don't go too slow and lose the arousal. Feel it out and find a nice balance. The ego will fight you to the death on this one, pulling every trick in the book to make you give up. Push through it and complete the mission. It's important to make it all the way at least once, that way you know you can do it again and again getting a little easier each time. You want to build up to being able to do this unassisted as soon as you can. If practiced persistently, the brain will have no choice but to re-wire itself to a state more conducive to self love while your confidence levels will be upgraded. Erotic Reflections has been field tested and I've seen considerable results. Anecdotal but promising.

NoNutNovember Channeling the chi upwards Nearly half way there A great joy death is Mankind is so obsolete God please end us all Plunge in frozen lakes To build strength through elements It works like a charm

Alien chicks be lookin hella thicc when you're weeks into nofap

What would be an example of high consciousness porn, teal swan's model pics?' @Light Lover Fapping and starving are as different as night and day. Have you ever given it a fair trial, like gone more than three weeks at a time since your first wank?

So say you reach the point where you can imagine a completely different reality and fully assimilate into it. What if someone comes along seeing you in a catatonic state and drugs you with an anti psychotic like Thorazine or lithium and suddenly you find yourself right back here. Wouldn't that alone prove this reality is the more real one? Or would such a high level of consciousness render those drugs ineffective? People are brought back from heroic dose psy trips that way all the time. I don't understand how being pulled out of a different world unexpectedly after perhaps an equivalence of decades of living a different life then slowly re-remembering everything about this reality just like high dose trip come downs could be just more imagination. I realize this question is heavily framed in dualistic notions of separateness but i need to know. I really want what was said in this video to be true because I've had trips that have led me to somewhat believe it may be possible.

Really? Isn't that what made them who they were? Surely they had partial access. Is there no way to gain full access while still remaining human, like drift into infinity and return as many times as you need whenever? That might be oversimplified but I thought that's the type of thing we were headed towards. That's pretty hardcore. Dabs are about three x too strong for my liking. I prefer plain flower occasionally.

So the drugs could only work that way if you imagined it to be possible? If you've ascended to the above and beyond like full Buddha or Christ then someone injects you daily with fluoride, meth and other neuro toxins would it still not bring you back down to ordinary consciousness or lower if you don't believe it can? I guess that could make sense since many of us I assume have heard the story of ram das, neem karoli baba and the lsd. But it seems like you could be unenlightened that way considering the use of nootropics, a healthy diet and excercise is essential for this work. You have to cleanse the mind and body to make it easier to realize the true self is beyond mind and body. So wouldn't it work in reverse? LoL ? Never played that particular one. Why, does it do a good job portraying the dreamlike qualities of life?

The body and even more so the mind is very much like a prison for most of us. So by terminating the body, maybe there would be a chance to somewhat control the transition process. Because it's all you and all one anyway right? Does the unenlightened majority lose lucidity between lives rendering them incapable of doing anything other than automatically reincarnating? The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep and book of the dead are two interesting books on this matter. Basically they try to raise their awareness to such a degree that they can remain calm and focused through death thus giving them more control. Which must be what you're saying with enlightenment being the only way out. However, there might still be a way to wiggle out of this self imposed trap between lives even if not fully liberated just by remaining calm and lucid. It would stand to reason because with the power of pure consciousness being heavily filtered through the mind and five senses, each death is probably a massive awakening into infinite potential and freedom. I know all these questions come from the limited ego but it still seems very bizzare that god would put itself under such a curse for the purpose of self dicovery. It's almost like a strict contract. I like to think we're more empowered through this whole process but that might just be more delusion. And that analogy would make sense provided you couldn't just jump out the window while it's open and forget about the stank altogether. But it's probably your own house so you can't. So you mean the open window is between lives, closed is the next physical life, and the stench is the source of suffering, correct? If I understand the analogy properly the open window would be the perfect time to throw out the nasty object.

We can never really die because consciousness is eternal. Fair enough. But why assume suicide wouldn't be an effective escape just because you would transition into something else thus not solving anything? This seems to imply there is some type of system, reincarnation or otherwise which makes it impossible to give up the easy way. Since god has infinite possibilities, transcendent of all laws and logic, you should be able to make the choice to completely unmanifest and "delete" yourself such that you go into the non experience of the atheists view of post death. That doesn't seem possible from our present understanding because there is nothing independent of consciousness but hey god can do anything it wants right?