Emotionalmosquito

Well that’s a simple fix. I just won’t be to women the same way I’m talking here. How does me saying I want less than what other people want in terms of a partner make me come off as man childish? Why am I just now being told the importance of having a job and prospects and friends as things needed to get a steady supply of partners? PUAs don’t say anything about that, not even Leo does. Zero responsibilities means infinite free time means boundless creativity. Why prefer a guy whose energy and will is depleted by the end of most days as opposed to a guy who’s free to put everything he’s got into the gal and is sharp and spry from sunrise to sunset all the time? Should be a no brainer to choose the freedom option. Say I start flipping burgers tomorrow, the next day I go to a bar. What about me has changed other than I’m twice as miserable and have some money in my pocket? Do the girls I talk to start giving me the Bambi eyes upon being told I’m an upstanding working man? Obviously not. I’ll still be the same weird guy whose soul cause of continuous blowouts is being (himself) more fiercely than most others. There has to be a way to fix this problem by personality adjustment alone.

@lostingenosmaze in what ways did he think differently?

Not according to the law in many places. There’s this thing called retroactive consent that the radfems are trying to get passed everywhere where the girl can withdraw her consent at any time in the future and lock you up for it. Even if she changes her mind during the act she doesn’t have to show any cues or let you know in any way for you to still be on the hook. Camera footage could help you out but the problem is when it comes to full on sex you aren’t allowed to film it without her knowledge in most places. However, even with just smooches and touching in what appears as both parties consenting, she could still make a pretty good case that she felt pressured into it and get you in big trouble that way. Maybe so. But what you can do is put a stop to this retroactive consent madness. All it is is a way for them to weasel out of their own mistakes, nothing to do with protecting women. They should have enough agency to make decisions and take accountability for their actions even if they regret something instead of ruining innocent mens lives by scapegoating their temporary lapse of judgment as rape or sexual assault. These cases should only be valid in the event of the guy being told NO very clearly and advancing on her anyway. Enough of this social cues and reading vibes malarkey. Well in that case I’ll be staying right where I am. Right where most other guys nowadays seem to be, single. Is it really worth gambling with your life? Low key it’s fast lane to the friendzone but high key it’s risking prison. What a shit show. No wonder two thirds of men are single now. Time to start investing in Realdoll and cat food stocks

You really can’t blame us for rotting at the soul when our basic need goes entirely unfulfilled for decades no matter how hard we try Hot and bloody vagina is great but not absolutely required, I don’t need a supermodel. I also didn’t say anything about her staying there as a long term girlfriend. Isn’t pickup supposed to get you good at getting one night stands or even short term situationships? That’s what I’m after. Wherein are the long term prospects required in that? I don’t talk about this stuff when I’m out there doing my thing, I talk about it here because it needs addressed and people here give helpful advice. When out on the practice range I’m ““being myself”” and getting mixed reactions to it. Is having a job really that important for a man’s hope of getting laid? What about the millions of guys with jobs AND decent personalities who still can’t get any action? The purpose of having a fuck mate or a temporary gf is not so you can hang out with her with your friends, WHAT? There should be enough different types of girls out there to where it’s not considered “most” girls that absolutely insist on meeting the friends. Im not afraid of showing her my friends, it’s just a painfully tedious extra step to worry about. Besides, as you get older your friends spend less and less time with you due to the increasing demands of life and, ironically, marriage and kids ☠️ You’re forgetting one huge thing. I’m good at being myself, very good. I can be myself like you’ve never seen. I thought that was supposed to be the most powerful tool to attract a quality girl. I hear you telling me money and status is just as important as personality, that’s exactly what the incels say only with looks in place of personality. LMS-looks money status. Should we change it to PMS? Yeah I get it, calibration, frame, yap yap yap. It’s be yourself but only within acceptable guidelines and in addition to all this extra shit that has nothing to do with being yourself. It’s that extra stuff I need to work on, yeah? Don’t divas think they’re better than others? Because that’s not me, I just want a suitable temporary gf LIKE everyone else. Temporary, I’m literally asking LESS than all these other people that want the perfect trophy partner to spend all their life with. My LP is to have perfect game and become a tiktok prankster but I’m terrified of cameras and more terrified of girls. How will that help my connection to women? Do you mean the temporary exposure will help me get better at connecting with them in general? Now that’s just making a chicken out of a feather. I’m no Prince Charming but that’s insane. My friends think I’m awesome and occasionally even girls do when I’m being myself. Big fucking deal if I don’t have my own place or any money, I’m not ashamed about it nor can anyone make me. Aren’t we supposed to be thinking we’re the shit and nothing can bring us down? If so, that’s not a good thing to tell someone or have in your mind if we’re supposed to be hyping each other up and framing ourselves as high value. Pickup is my life purpose! Being successful at it means the whole universe and beyond to me. There’s no reason to be alive if I can’t have dozens of new partners per year like they get to. I don’t know how you guys expect me to magically pull out of my ass all this energy and motivation needed to improve. If you aren’t getting any sex, naturally you lose power over time the longer you’re deprived. How the hell am I supposed to summon all this confidence, energy and inner strength without a dedicated girl to recharge my battery and repair my systems by entertaining me for a couple weeks? It wouldn’t even be all cost for her because I could entertain her too, by being myself of course. Theres a saying, “A warrior needs pussy to become a king.” Actually it’s the other way around.

Why am I not surprised

In the sense that it bitters my mind to the point of discouraging action, you’re right. But not when I’m out there on the battlefield. It’s not like I’m talking like this to my approachees, that would be suicide to progress. This is the place for theory, and right now my theory has lots of kinks it needs straightened out before I go back into practice. But I’m sure the intensity of the practice will lead me right back here. I think I sounded like a condescending prick about the wink thing. I really do like that idea though and am going to use it. Just to clarify

Until they learn to start making better decisions in the men they fall for, I will have no respect for their pathetic attempt at caution. Time and time again we see example after example after example of women ending up in horribly abusive relationships or getting raped and or abandoned and stuck on their own with kids by the very men they severely misjudged. And I’m supposed to believe they’re only looking out for their best interest when they reject me for making a naughty joke or climbing out of small talk too early on? That’s a hard sell man. What they don’t understand is that usually the most dangerous men out there are very well socially adjusted and well calibrated, not the ones that just act like dorks. Ahh so that’s what I’ve been missing, the wink! How could I have overlooked that all this time? Guess I’ll get back to my same routine only this time with a flirty wink and I’ll let you know how it goes! Vice versa Experience heavily indicates otherwise. If that’s true then why’s it so much easier to hit it off with guys about weird stuff as opposed to how girls usually go off on a bitch fit or get icked out or offended when you go beyond small talk? I know it’s not because they’re “on the lookout” because experienced PUA guys can successfully joke about killing the girl and still pull her. I can repel them without saying anything close to that bad. It doesn’t add up. As far as being equally horny, that couldn’t be further from the truth. How many girls are there with crippling fapping addictions? Who established the #nofap/#NNN movement? Which sex is more successful on onlyfans? Which sex likes sniffing the other’s panties and feet? They’ve even done social experiments where a guy asks a hundred girls for sex and 100% of them say no (often quite aggressively) in reverse a good three quarters of the guys say yes. The evidence suggests men are in fact many times more horny than women are. Lastly, this thing about women needing to be more cautious because they’re way more vulnerable than men are, this is only true in the face to face physical sense. Men are more vulnerable in other ways. Legally being the most obvious one.

With the discussion shifting into the importance of looks, here’s a question: Who pulls more baddies; a morbidly obese, balding, broke guy with stinky armpits living in his mom’s basement in his thirties who also happens to have absolutely flawless game or a ripped, good looking, 6’3” wealthy entrepreneur who’s as bad with women as I am? My guess is if you’re the latter there is no being bad with women because at that point they make it incredibly easy for you. ?

Good luck with all that in a court of law for a sexual assault/harassment trial 😅 ”You see, you honor. I may not have had her verbal consent but all the social cues and body language gave me the green light. The vibe was just right. How was I to know she wasn’t into it?” Can’t see that going very well What you say would explain why husbands/bfs often find themselves stuck in the doghouse for reasons unbeknownst to them. Something like “Babe, I’m sorry I made you feel bad but I have no idea what I did, can you please tell me?” Then she’ll cry, “Why can’t you just know? You just don’t get me! I’ve given you all the signs in the world. Do I really need to spell it out for you?” Of course sometimes it can be so subtle even the girl herself doesn’t understand what it is she wants of her partner, or she’ll want contradicting things simultaneously. Like the classic “You’re supposed to act based on what I MEAN, not what I SAY” Or it could be something like she starts complaining just to blow off steam but gets annoyed when the guy tries to offer her solutions because she’s just trying to vent, not fix the problem immediately. Are those pretty good examples of it?

It needs to be. It needs to change from the guy sometimes being required to intuitively know if he has the green light to always verbally asking and getting a verbal answer in order to know. This feeling it out and reading vibes horse shit just doesn’t cut it, too much room for error which can cause you MASSIVE trouble. If I ever make it that far, I’m making her sign a consent form with the date, time, exact agreement to what’s being consented and both of our full names. I’m not playing around anymore, the game has become far too dangerous to take lightly. Of course she could still tear you to shreds in court if she really wanted to by pulling the retroactive consent card, but at least it’s better than not taking the extra precaution, and orders of magnitude better than relying on vibe consent. That’s ridiculously risky man. Place your hands on the wrong girl’s hips and that’s a sexual harassment charge

BIG. FAT. YES! But at this rate I would not DARE tell her that until well after dozens and dozens of dates, maybe not even then. Sounds hot as fuck. Sign me up And for good reason. We may have the physical strength advantage, but it ends right there. Dealing with women is quite terrifying in more ways and in more serious ways than most y’all realize.

There lies the problem. If I do that I’m toast. The stuff I talk about with dad and friends... some of the stuff I’m not even comfortable saying on here because it’s embarrassing for even me. I will say it’s a lot of stuff like discussions of girls and why it’s become so hard to get them, methods of potentially getting them, sexuality in general, why normies are so dense, hilarious public pranks/social experiments we could do, and of course lots and lots of what mainstream culture has deemed “disgusting” or “inappropriate” like Behold, The Cloaca Turd Machine! So yeah. Safe to say I best stick with the weather, what the latest sports team is doing and reality tv if I’m ever gonna get good with women. To be fair though, you did also say we can make observational humor and have fun talking about the current environment and her age, race, appearance and so on. I’m sure you can find room to expand into more interesting stuff from there. Like you said, claim it was only a joke and apologize if something you say gets a bad reaction. Shouldn’t be terribly hard, right?

Absolutely right. But I don’t say it like that. I just talk about it normally, some are ok with it but most aren’t. It’s about 80-20 roughly and I don’t bring it up every single time. I only used that one fascination of mine as an example of why the PUAs are wrong when they say it’s a good practice to be totally filterless. I enjoy all manor of taboo subject matter. I think of it more like this: grl 1: Hey my period is killing me but I can’t tell any men because they’re all squeamish about it grl 2: awww sweetie I’m sorry, I have an extra pad, im here for you. Sometimes it’s only us girls who can support each other. Ughhh, men are just so inconsiderate! (This or some variation x1000) guy: Hey ladies, I’m a male and I’m not bothered by it one bit, I’m down to talk about it in depth from a completely nonjudgmental standpoint. I hate that y’all are shamed and made to feel like you have to hide your natural monthly cycle. I actually know a lot about it as well! girl 1 and girl 2: EWWWW!!!!🤮🤮🤯😫 Get the hell away from us you disgusting freak! Crawl back into your hole and die you weirdo! Of course usually they aren’t that mean about it but they probably wanna be

Yes I am. Most people are. Most people don’t deserve that kind of sickening, degrading bullshit, they only do it because they think the money is worth the sacrifice. It’s not a matter of self pity, it’s a matter of self respect. You mentioned something about lacking self respect as being why people aren’t willing to spend money on programs to self improve; the way I see it, wage slaving is a massive form of self betrayal. Nobody who highly values themself would put up with such torment unless they absolutely have to. You either have self love or you surrender your balls to the devil and take it up the corn hole while onlookers sarcastically yell boo hoo at you. Wagecuckery is absolutely poisonous to the soul and in turn the body, I can’t stress that enough! It turns normal, healthy individuals into sick, sorry, depressed shadows of their former selves. Do I really need to be pushed even further into that state than I already am? Imagine what that does to someone’s “vibe” and how it affects their pickup practice. It took a ten day vipassana retreat to reverse the damage of two months at my first and hopefully only wagie job. I can roam the city doing pickup until the cops eventually put an end to it because they start getting calls about a creepy guy ““HARaSsInG”” the women. I hope with all my heart that doesn’t happen but I know how “people” are. Might get into shock value stand up comedy. I can find free stuff to do. “Feeling too good” to me is no different than having self respect. Idk where ur drawing the distinction. And yes, rotten humanity it is indeed. We’re talking about creatures who blame you for shit that’s not at all your fault and that you have no control over, expect you to do multiple tasks simultaneously and quickly then get pissed off when you fail or goof up, holler at you for doing something a different superior tasked you with instead of what they tasked you with, then later the first superior comes back and gets even angrier because you switched tasks even though the other one told you to (hopefully i said that clearly enough) Then they won’t even listen and blame you even more when you tell them to stop splitting you in different half. They’ll bully you and each other and pass it off as friendly banter then when you come back at them with the same energy, suddenly you’re the bad guy. Also you’re the bad guy if you defend against it. That only scratches the surface. If I’m a self loathing pussy for not eagerly participating in that social hell, then i guess I’m a pussy. You don’t seem to understand that all I know is butt kick receiving. I already get it from everyone and everything except friends and family. So that’s obviously not it or I’d be better by now. What I need more than anything else is a few different semi hot gfs out of which to extract as much love and affection as possible each for a few months to revitalize my systems like nothing else can. Maybe Santa will bring me one or two for Christmas next month.

What a tragic predicament we find ourselves in. With both sexes not trusting each other it’s no surprise why birthrates are below replacement level in many countries now

@The0Self great thanks 👍 I’ll get on that. I’ll let you know when I find any if the universe hasn’t reverted back to stardust by then X D

@The0Self True. I just need to get better at knowing what different peoples triggers are @Princess Arabia I don’t really understand it but some girls think they’re connected somehow Exactly what I’ve been saying. That’s why it’s so tricky, because they often times won’t even reveal the truth about what they really think/feel about what you’re saying. So you gotta develop a sixth sense to detect it

That can’t possibly be true. I get in arguments with women all the time and all it does is make them hate me. That’s exactly right. Which is why marriage is a huge huge no no for boys. It automatically transfers 90% of the power in the relationship into her hands. A brutal divorce can absolutely destroy a man beyond repair. @kray Completely agree. Nothing hotter than having a fuming pissed off chick on your hands, especially if it’s sexual frustration. Bonus points if you say something like “must be that time of month” when she’s already on edge. You will be in heaven! 🥰 Maybe literally! Also find crying to be quite sexy

Not even the first date, the very first approach. Which mind you some of them are ok with, or at least they pretend to be. I’ve discovered it’s impossible to tell cool people from squares just by looking, even after small talking for a bit you still can’t quite tell what’ll scare/piss them off. That must be why you’re better off just being boring until you know for sure what their limits are. Lord knows you can’t just ask because that in itself would be considered weird. Of course it can’t be that easy. Depressing it is but that’s life. Btw what about the video I posted? With as squeamish as they are about the subject their brains will probably explode once they find out it can potentially save millions of lives and cure all types of serious ailments. Too much cognitive dissonance for them. Come to think of it I haven’t yet tried presenting the subject in that frame! 💡

I don’t have any evidence to believe there’s more than zero 😔 💀

@Thought Art can’t blame u. Clearly made for crazy chicks

Also that guy “1st person approacher” wasn’t the least bit threatening. All he did was approach like anyone else, only difference was he was on a bike. He was also very polite, respectful of boundaries and left as soon as they rejected him.

How do you find escorts? I want one but I’m worried about it being a sting op. And I just don’t know how to find one at all

What? It blows my mind that people have to be so stuck up and bitchy about such basic life functions, it gives me the ick. It would be different if I was saying stuff like “Heyy girl lemme guzzle down that red goo through a beer bong”, but I’m not. I don’t see how simply talking about periods normally or about how science has now discovered menstrual fluid to be the next leap forward in modern medicine is on the same level of repulsive as saying how much you like to finger your asshole. Well shit dude, if it was that easy pua wouldn’t even be a thing. Kids are the easiest in the world to vibe with, you barely even have to think and they actually laugh at your humor. Girls on the other hand, they might as well be an extraterrestrial life form. Yes they absolutely do. And NEVER ask if she’s on hers when she’s clearly frustrated about something unless you’re prepared for a fight. LOL It matters because they spread around their negative perception of you like a plague which then hurts your chances with other girls How is whispering in someone’s ear or making a dirty uncalibrated joke on the same level as something someone planning to do something seriously harmful would do? It’s not that at all. My problems are so serious and painful I’m on the verge of signing out for good. It’s not about an unwillingness to spend money. It’s an inability to get money at all or fast enough. I have no skills, live with parents who’re running out of energy, I’m 27, have tons of addictions each one far too strong to break, so full of bitterness and resentment it oozes out everywhere I go. Literally how the hell do i even begin to make any progress from here? Forget about making enough money to travel and do programs/workshops and such. Should I get a minimum wage cuck job with a dick head boss and rotten pieces of human fucking garbage coworkers that shit on me for not knowing how to do the job perfectly and making lots of mistakes because I’m a slow learner? And do this on top of my mountain of addictions and already zero patience for human bullshit? Can’t we just admit that the astronomical demands of life are simply far too challenging for some people to ever hope to conquer? Some people just aren’t cut out to handle this much strain. Its also not a self respect problem, I have plenty of it. In fact that might just be exactly the problem. Only a self hating masochist could put themselves through the hell of grinding their way out of a position like mine. Doing self actualizing work is the emotional equivalent of stabbing a long serrated knife up my cock and twisting it while everyone watches and tells me to just lighten up and be myself.